Beregond Supersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Playtime said: Hong Kong one may be more extensive due to its supposedly independent judiciary?? 🤔 maybe? but if u not happy with jurong island, then u stop extradition treaty with jurong island, but still have 1 with singapore, dun u find it weird.? beside if they feel hk current security law is unfair, then china law is at least 10x more strict then hk law even u count in the new security law. if any 1 feel hk new law is unfair and cannot have extradition treaty with, fair enough, but to prove your point u cannot have another 1 with china itself??????? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Beregond said: maybe? but if u not happy with jurong island, then u stop extradition treaty with jurong island, but still have 1 with singapore, dun u find it weird.? beside if they feel hk current security law is unfair, then china law is at least 10x more strict then hk law even u count in the new security law. if any 1 feel hk new law is unfair and cannot have extradition treaty with, fair enough, but to prove your point u cannot have another 1 with china itself??????? Honestly, it is very bad narrative with Jurong Island. It is totally not applicable. If you do read up more on the Security Law, it is worse than the one in China Edited August 8, 2020 by inlinesix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Beregond said: maybe? but if u not happy with jurong island, then u stop extradition treaty with jurong island, but still have 1 with singapore, dun u find it weird.? beside if they feel hk current security law is unfair, then china law is at least 10x more strict then hk law even u count in the new security law. if any 1 feel hk new law is unfair and cannot have extradition treaty with, fair enough, but to prove your point u cannot have another 1 with china itself??????? China is guilty unless proven innocent. Hk supposedly should be innocent unless proven guilty.(TV drama)...hahaha now with the national security law it work the opposite. Also prior to the national security law Hk has been treated as a separate region from China that enjoyed treaties / trade etc etc... Now those five eyes countries just so called going to treat Hk and China as one system. Hkers cannot complain all along those blue camp craved all along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 今年 7 月《港區國安法》實施後,美國總統特朗普已簽署行政命令,聲言將制裁多名中國及香港官員,但一直未公布詳情。美國財政部今晚公布制裁名單,有 11 名中港官員,包括夏寶龍、張曉明、鄭雁雄、駱惠寧、林鄭月娥、鄭若驊、李家超、曾國衞、鄧炳強、盧偉聰、陳國基。 美國財政部今晚在網站公布,將 11 名中港官員加入外國資產控制室 (OFAC)「特別指定國民和被封鎖人員」名單 (Specially Designated Nationals And Blocked Persons List)。11 名中港官員包括港澳辦主任夏寶龍、港澳辦副主任張曉明、國安公署署長鄭雁雄、中聯辦主任駱惠寧、特首林鄭月娥、律政司司長鄭若驊、保安局局長李家超、政制及內地事務局局長曾國衞、警務處處長鄧炳強、前警務處處長盧偉聰、國安委秘書長陳國基。 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 Just now, Kopites said: 今年 7 月《港區國安法》實施後,美國總統特朗普已簽署行政命令,聲言將制裁多名中國及香港官員,但一直未公布詳情。美國財政部今晚公布制裁名單,有 11 名中港官員,包括夏寶龍、張曉明、鄭雁雄、駱惠寧、林鄭月娥、鄭若驊、李家超、曾國衞、鄧炳強、盧偉聰、陳國基。 美國財政部今晚在網站公布,將 11 名中港官員加入外國資產控制室 (OFAC)「特別指定國民和被封鎖人員」名單 (Specially Designated Nationals And Blocked Persons List)。11 名中港官員包括港澳辦主任夏寶龍、港澳辦副主任張曉明、國安公署署長鄭雁雄、中聯辦主任駱惠寧、特首林鄭月娥、律政司司長鄭若驊、保安局局長李家超、政制及內地事務局局長曾國衞、警務處處長鄧炳強、前警務處處長盧偉聰、國安委秘書長陳國基。 All high profile government officers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 美國財政部長努欽稱,美國將與香港人同行,「我們會用善用不同工具及手段,對付損害香港自治的人」(“The United States stands with the people of Hong Kong and we will use our tools and authorities to target those undermining their autonomy") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 China consulate in New York shredding documents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Kopites said: China is guilty unless proven innocent. Hk supposedly should be innocent unless proven guilty.(TV drama)...hahaha now with the national security law it work the opposite. Also prior to the national security law Hk has been treated as a separate region from China that enjoyed treaties / trade etc etc... Now those five eyes countries just so called going to treat Hk and China as one system. Hkers cannot complain all along those blue camp craved all along. Under HK legal system, innocent until proven guilty is build into its legal system (not TV drama). There are a lot of contradicting point btw HK constitution and National Security Law that resulted in a lot of uncertainties. A lot of ppl will say i no scare since i do no wrong what. Under this law, it is easy to breach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 you are guilty until proven innocent? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wt_know said: you are guilty until proven innocent? I believe every 1 in china is guilty of crime. Lawyer should be working ot + ot to prove every 1 not guilty🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Under HK legal system, innocent until proven guilty is build into its legal system (not TV drama). There are a lot of contradicting point btw HK constitution and National Security Law that resulted in a lot of uncertainties. A lot of ppl will say i no scare since i do no wrong what. Under this law, it is easy to breach. However lately we so incidents where police apprehended and deem guilty were released by court due to lack of evidences. Haha Edited August 8, 2020 by Kopites 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Wt_know said: you are guilty until proven innocent? 99% conviction rate le. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 1st victim of Sanction, Secretary of Justice Teresa Cheng. Her hubby company bought a lift engineering company listed in US in March 2020 Quote 美國制裁|鄭若驊受制裁料影響大 安樂工程今年剛收購美國公司 https://www.hk01.com/政情/508373/美國制裁-鄭若驊受制裁料影響大-安樂工程今年剛收購美國公司 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kopites said: However lately we so incidents where police apprehend and deem guilty were released by court due to lack of evidences. Haha The responsibility to prove lies with Justice Department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic August 8, 2020 Author Share August 8, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/makeinterestingreading/photos/書生仔細查過發現今次制裁唔係咁簡單參考過幾個專門研究美國制裁的律師行網站都一致強調最好規避列入-sdn-名單中因為其制裁的覆蓋範圍仲大過聯合國制裁入得去就意味著/2729685917300385/ The impact of such sanction. Terrorist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, inlinesix said: 99% conviction rate le. Like this? https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/china-clears-man-of-murder-after-27-years-in-jail-12995590 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 1 hour ago, inlinesix said: A lot of ppl will say i no scare since i do no wrong what. Under this law, it is easy to breach. Famous last words that people NEVER seem to learn from... those are the real nimby that cry the loudest once they find themselves oneday on the receiving end of what they cheered before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic August 8, 2020 Share August 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Playtime said: Famous last words that people NEVER seem to learn from... those are the real nimby that cry the loudest once they find themselves oneday on the receiving end of what they cheered before. They kpkb when PAP stole a PE and refused to bent to popular vote for certain issues but it is ok if motherland changed the rules and laws in HK coz NIMBY.... Never mind majority of HKers are against the law. When it comes to CCP, so long as it don't affect their lives here, all HKers are just ungraceful rioters. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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