Wt_know Supersonic November 12, 2019 Author Share November 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Theoldjaffa said: Noob question. Is M135i considered a bona fide M car? of course not la it’s simply M performance “tune” 4-pot engine for x35i .... ///M where got 4-pot FWD one ... muahahahaha Edited November 12, 2019 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 12, 2019 Share November 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wt_know said: of course not la it’s simply M performance “tune” 4-pot engine for x35i .... ///M where got 4-pot FWD one ... muahahahaha Thanks. cos for Merc, a CLA 35 is still considered an AMG car although it doesn’t have a real AMG engine. so I thought maybe BMW is similar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic November 12, 2019 Author Share November 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Theoldjaffa said: Thanks. cos for Merc, a CLA 35 is still considered an AMG car although it doesn’t have a real AMG engine. so I thought maybe BMW is similar. ok la ... the direction is going for downside engine last time ... 4pot normal car, 6pot smooth smooth petrol head, real ///M at least 8-pot and 10-pot now 4pot is entering YAM territory liao ... Edited November 12, 2019 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 12, 2019 Share November 12, 2019 Just now, Wt_know said: ok la ... the direction is going for downside engine last time ... 4pot normal, 6pot smooth smooth, real ///M at least 8-pot and 10-pot now 4pot is entering YAM territory liao ... What’s YAM territory ah? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic November 12, 2019 Author Share November 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Theoldjaffa said: What’s YAM territory ah? with factory ///M badge here there everywhere but not real ///M ... so called YAM lo .... muahahaha Edited November 12, 2019 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalaisgongon Clutched November 12, 2019 Share November 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, shifu17 said: Hi , is there any whatsapp / telegram group for F40? Good question! i am interested too! Edited November 12, 2019 by Lalaisgongon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged November 12, 2019 Share November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Wt_know said: with factory ///M badge here there everywhere but not real ///M ... so called YAM lo .... muahahaha Yah,like my M240i....😓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic November 12, 2019 Share November 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, ER-3682 said: Yah,like my M240i....😓 In the good ole days, it is 240 ///M Sports. Now, M240. Which 1 you like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic November 12, 2019 Author Share November 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, Davidtch said: In the good ole days, it is 240 ///M Sports. Now, M240. Which 1 you like? i want M110 .... sibei hiong ah!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic November 13, 2019 Author Share November 13, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, SZ_ford said: 330i for added space and more upmarket interior. 50 more hp in 135i.....i think performance difference between the 2 cars not heaven and earth . in addition to RWD vs FWD, the gearbox is also a serious consideration for performance, agility and shiokness 135i = 8sp by Aisin 330i = 8sp by ZF Edited November 13, 2019 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 13, 2019 Share November 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Wt_know said: i want M110 .... sibei hiong ah!!! M113 can anot 🤓 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 13, 2019 Share November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Wt_know said: in addition to RWD vs FWD, the gearbox is also a serious consideration for performance, agility and shiokness 135i = 8sp by Aisin 330i = 8sp by ZF Aisin also buay pai right? To be able to go into an M-Performance car? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic November 13, 2019 Author Share November 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Theoldjaffa said: Aisin also buay pai right? To be able to go into an M-Performance car? more like m-performance car get aisin gearbox to reduce cost to increase profit aisin gearbox is mostly used in "fwd entry model" ... sushi rice vs german sausage aisin gearbox is made for transversely mounted engine ... so 135i is entry level? Edited November 13, 2019 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic November 13, 2019 Share November 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wt_know said: more like m-performance car get aisin gearbox to reduce cost to increase profit aisin gearbox is mostly used in "fwd entry model" ... sushi rice vs german sausage aisin gearbox is made for transversely mounted engine ... so 135i is entry level? I think ZF don’t have transverse AT GB. My R56 also 6 spd Aisin. M135 torque (450nm) is higher than the limit of Getrag DCT. That’s why conventional AT has to be used. It’s same for Mini JCW. Edited November 13, 2019 by Davidtch 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 13, 2019 Share November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Wt_know said: more like m-performance car get aisin gearbox to reduce cost to increase profit aisin gearbox is mostly used in "fwd entry model" ... sushi rice vs german sausage aisin gearbox is made for transversely mounted engine ... so 135i is entry level? Oic. But mine is longitudinally mounted engine with 8-speed Aisin gearbox leh 😅 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoldjaffa Hypersonic November 13, 2019 Share November 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Davidtch said: I think ZF don’t have transverse AT GB. My R56 also 6 spd Aisin. M135 torque (450nm) is higher than the limit of Getrag DCT. That’s why conventional AT has to be used. It’s same for Mini JCW. Good to know that the Aisin can tahan the torque. my wheel torque is 330nm which is about 400nm on crank after factoring transmission losses? Shd be safe for my gearbox. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake109 6th Gear November 15, 2019 Share November 15, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 4:00 PM, Theoldjaffa said: Thanks. cos for Merc, a CLA 35 is still considered an AMG car although it doesn’t have a real AMG engine. so I thought maybe BMW is similar. OK, my viewpoint on M fake M and AMG half AMG etc. Audi : S and RS. So far very good! Clear cut! Even have S line. BMW : Ignore what the model name says. Does the engine start with an S? Yes is real M. Anything else is half fark marketing spiel. Mercedes : Engine hand built with signature or not? (note: C43 and A35 don't have). Yes is real AMG. Anything else is half fark marketing spiel. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake109 6th Gear November 15, 2019 Share November 15, 2019 Dunno why cant edit to add to my post above. Just to add, I would be perfectly happy if my previous and current car : S4 -> Call it A4 3.0T but all else same AND CHARGE ME LESS M140i -> Call it 130i but all else same AND CHARGE ME LESS!!! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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