Wind30 Turbocharged April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 this is one reason why i would never buy anything north of PIE. its always CTE that gets whacked. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/erp-rates-for-2-gantries-to-increase-from-may-6-11488346 On the bright side, my Wife take cte every morning and the traffic is pretty good on most days, 730-800 after dropping of our kids. $80 a month, around 1k a year. To me the cost is not significant. I rather pay this than get stuck in traffic. I am surprised they build the nsc because the cte traffic is pretty ok from my experience. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 (edited) On the bright side, my Wife take cte every morning and the traffic is pretty good on most days, 730-800 after dropping of our kids. $80 a month, around 1k a year. To me the cost is not significant. I rather pay this than get stuck in traffic. I am surprised they build the nsc because the cte traffic is pretty ok from my experience. Many other gantries don’t even start before 8am.just saying that the traffic conditions got to be the worst on CTE since the rates are the highest and length of operation longest. Edited April 29, 2019 by Mkl22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 PP is tricky. Too near main road and it’s noisy and potentially dusty. Too far from the trains, or narrow lanes can spoil your stay. So be smart and look around. Use your own checklist and see what suits you. The area near Thomson plaza is nice too and so is the Windsor park area. Jalan Peminpin is another good area. But price ... U know a lot of landed enclaves. So where you got in the end?? Nice place is always more ex. One can always buy a bigger place in more ulu locations. To me it’s about commute time. The time to drive from Yio Chu Kang entrance to let’s say amk ave 1 entrance is 5 mins on average. I think getting to the expressway entrance takes more time. Example, mimosa park is ulu but it literally takes only few minutes to get to cte as no traffic lights. Compare to some places closer to city but takes longer or same to drive... Same for mrt. Bishan mrt and yck mrt is 2 stops 6 minutes apart. How much is that worth to you?i think getting to the mrt time is probably a bigger consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 YCK was bad for me.. be it CTE or Upper Thomson, it was bad after 7.30 am.. Even 30 years ago, it took me 90min or more to get to school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 YCK was bad for me.. be it CTE or Upper Thomson, it was bad after 7.30 am.. Even 30 years ago, it took me 90min or more to get to school. you said "was" so I assume it was long ago.... 30 years ago no ERP what. This kind of thing no need to argue one. I can measure for you everyday around 730am as we drop of our kid at 720ish everyday then take CTE. It is not clear traffic but not Jam. As MKL22 pointed out, LTA monitor CTE very closely, adjusts the ERP rates often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 (edited) Many other gantries don’t even start before 8am.just saying that the traffic conditions got to be the worst on CTE since the rates are the highest and length of operation longest. Ya, if you are comparing traffic IF there was no ERP, I guess CTE got to be the worst among all the major expressways as their rates are the highest. but I only care about real life traffic with ERP.... like I said, I am thankful that ERP on CTE has brought the traffic to a pretty ok condition and LTA monitor it very closely. There was a time (2 years ago?) TPE towards SLE traffic was very bad after work before they fixed the TPE/SLE/CTE interchange. No ERP but almost jam everyday.... I wish there was some ERP during that time. If you drive, I am sure you know that some arterial roads are much worse than the expressway as LTA don't monitor them or put ERP on them. Plus traffic lights, sometimes getting to the expressway takes much longer, ie from my kid school to expressway or my wife's work place before they added in a separate entry road. Edited April 29, 2019 by Wind30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 29, 2019 Author Share April 29, 2019 (edited) PP is tricky. Too near main road and itâs noisy and potentially dusty. Too far from the trains, or narrow lanes can spoil your stay. So be smart and look around. Use your own checklist and see what suits you. The area near Thomson plaza is nice too and so is the Windsor park area. Jalan Peminpin is another good area. But price ... That PP unit I viewed is minutes walking distance from MRT but yes, too heavy traffic, hence air and noise pollution Thomson Plaza area mostly small units with narrow lanes. 30 years ago, Spore where got so many cars Edited April 29, 2019 by Lms822 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 I'm piqued, I know the area well, but I don't see anything on Prop Guru which is on Pasir Panjang Road that's mins walk to the MRT AND within 3mil.. But if you can't stand the noise and dust, you know what to do. Buying a home is more similar to finding a good wife than you think.. If you 'put up' with certain aspects hoping things will get better with time, well, as you know, it doesn't.. But be prepared to pay more and whatever prices you saw last year.. forget it, it's about 10-20% more now. Those who don't get their selling price will hold, because those in landed tend to have that hold power, unless they lose their jobs. And some are already retired and have no fear of not selling.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 29, 2019 Author Share April 29, 2019 I'm piqued, I know the area well, but I don't see anything on Prop Guru which is on Pasir Panjang Road that's mins walk to the MRT AND within 3mil.. But if you can't stand the noise and dust, you know what to do. Buying a home is more similar to finding a good wife than you think.. If you 'put up' with certain aspects hoping things will get better with time, well, as you know, it doesn't.. But be prepared to pay more and whatever prices you saw last year.. forget it, it's about 10-20% more now. Those who don't get their selling price will hold, because those in landed tend to have that hold power, unless they lose their jobs. And some are already retired and have no fear of not selling.. I widened my selection Can I Pm you to find out about PP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 Bro, your agent should know better... and you asked before, I'm no agent.. I enjoy a bit of look see.. If your agent isn't worth his salt, it's best to change one... I can even recommend you another if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 29, 2019 Author Share April 29, 2019 Bro, your agent should know better... and you asked before, I'm no agent.. I enjoy a bit of look see.. If your agent isn't worth his salt, it's best to change one... I can even recommend you another if you like. Ain’t you say you are familiar with PP? I am sure that agent can’t be knowing more than somebody who stays there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 He's saying that you are paying the agent to do the work and you aren't paying him la. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 29, 2019 Author Share April 29, 2019 He's saying that you are paying the agent to do the work and you aren't paying him la.Opss... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic April 29, 2019 Share April 29, 2019 (edited) Can I Pm you to find out about PP? So my guess a few post earlier was correct that you may have difficulties finding what you want if you limit yourself to only two locations You may want to try even more areas than you are eyeing now , you may change your view and liking of certain location. No harm viewing more as long as you have the energy and time. Be prepared for a long hunting cycle like even up to more than a year. Looking for landed is never easy. Edited April 29, 2019 by Ct3833 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 29, 2019 Author Share April 29, 2019 So my guess a few post earlier was correct that you may have difficulties finding what you want if you limit yourself to only two locations You may want to try even more areas than you are eyeing now , you may change your view and liking of certain location. No harm viewing more as long as you have the energy and time. Be prepared for a long hunting cycle like even up to more than a year. Looking for landed is never easy.Yeah, I didn’t know Spore has so many landed properties spread around the island before surveying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic April 30, 2019 Share April 30, 2019 (edited) Yeah, I didnât know Spore has so many landed properties spread around the island before surveyingYah keep going. Macpherson, happy Avenue, sennett estate, serangoon(most crowded with landed), Kovan etc etc. And skip bukit timah because your budget isonly 3mil, it is why I cannot afford to stay there too.And remember, buyer stamp duty is 3%, so a 3mil house meaning have to "hoot" another close to $100k of stamp duty fee. And reno, assuming if you have budgeted 250k for reno, you need to be very tight with your spend, or else you will likely blow your reno budget too. Edited April 30, 2019 by Ct3833 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lms822 2nd Gear April 30, 2019 Author Share April 30, 2019 Yah keep going. Macpherson, happy Avenue, sennett estate, serangoon(most crowded with landed), Kovan etc etc. And skip bukit timah because your budget isonly 3mil, it is why I cannot afford to stay there too.Yeah Bukit Timah need at least 4m for a land size of 1600sqf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic April 30, 2019 Share April 30, 2019 Peace and quiet. Minimal heavy vehicles running around on main roads nearby. Esp next time when your kids grow up, and walk back home from mrt or Bus stop. Even if i have the money. Won't really even Consider PP for the 2nd Point. Similarly the small landed enclave near corporation Road. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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