Harry4D 2nd Gear July 23, 2017 Share July 23, 2017 Somehow agree with you. Both Harrier and CX-5 got nice interior but CX-5 score a bit higher. Exterior wise and NVH, Harrier wins. But sad that CX-5 is out for me as family complain CX-5 is too cramp in the rear. They don't like it. sigh................... The 2nd gen CX5 is much improved as in its interior upgrade and quality. In term dashboard design, CX5 looks better than Harrier (own opinion). For back seat area, Harrier is more spacious than CX5. If most of the time, the car is always having 5 persons, Harrier is a better option. If not, CX5 center back seat being cramped is not much concern. Another strong point of CX5 is the soul red color. This red is no other cars can offer, it is just fabulous. If I am decided to get this car later, red is my only choice. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmmugen Clutched July 23, 2017 Share July 23, 2017 Is it true that quality of Mazda deteriorate after some years unlike the conti car that last longer? Can anyone share their purchase package on the CX-5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged July 23, 2017 Share July 23, 2017 Is it true that quality of Mazda deteriorate after some years unlike the conti car that last longer? Where you heard from? Conti car salesman? Usually conti cars are the ones that confirm give you all sorts of "interesting" issues after a few years. Just look at the VW threads for example. Usually Japanese makes are less problematic especially for drivetrain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpy 4th Gear July 23, 2017 Share July 23, 2017 The 2nd gen CX5 is much improved as in its interior upgrade and quality. In term dashboard design, CX5 looks better than Harrier (own opinion). For back seat area, Harrier is more spacious than CX5. If most of the time, the car is always having 5 persons, Harrier is a better option. If not, CX5 center back seat being cramped is not much concern. Another strong point of CX5 is the soul red color. This red is no other cars can offer, it is just fabulous. If I am decided to get this car later, red is my only choice. I think your comparison is spot on and would agree with everything you've said, even with regard to the soul red. I would have a tough choice deciding between the two cars, but having owned both mazdas and toyotas before, I think I would lean towards the Mazda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Read the news article on how Borneo managed to bring in this special Harrier last weekend. Was surprised to read that this is the first jap car with the latest Toyota Safety Sensing technology which include radar function that can lock on to a car infront and allow the driver to set a safety distance to follow behind where the car will regulate the speed automatically! Another useful feature is the car will recognise the lane marking on the road and alert when detects that the car is mobbing out of the lanes, aka lane departure detection feature. But not sure if these are available across all the variants. If I were looking at these 2 models, the safety aspects would swing me straight away to the Toyota camp. But that is only my opinion, haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahyoo2002 2nd Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Read the news article on how Borneo managed to bring in this special Harrier last weekend. Was surprised to read that this is the first jap car with the latest Toyota Safety Sensing technology which include radar function that can lock on to a car infront and allow the driver to set a safety distance to follow behind where the car will regulate the speed automatically! Another useful feature is the car will recognise the lane marking on the road and alert when detects that the car is mobbing out of the lanes, aka lane departure detection feature. But not sure if these are available across all the variants. If I were looking at these 2 models, the safety aspects would swing me straight away to the Toyota camp. But that is only my opinion, haha. Understand that the 2.5L CX5 Supex Lux version will have the above too, In fact those Toyota Sensing Technology, is available at a lot of cars now. If I am not wrong, it will be available for the CRV 7 seater version too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 (edited) Understand that the 2.5L CX5 Supex Lux version will have the above too, In fact those Toyota Sensing Technology, is available at a lot of cars now. If I am not wrong, it will be available for the CRV 7 seater version too. I was told that Honda Sensing will not be available in Singapore, meaning CRV not gonna come with plenty of safety kits that are common in CX-5 & Harrier Reading off the brochure, CX-5 Super Luxury (Top Specs) come with Adaptive LED Headlight (ALH) Tyre Deflation Warning System Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Front SRS Airbag system (driver + front passenger) Side SRS Airbag and curtain airbags Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) Traction Control System (TCS) Burglar Alarm Seat Belt Warning Lamps (driver and front passenger) Lane Keep Assist System (LAS) Lane Departure Warning System (LDWS) Blind Sport Monitoring (BSM) Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) Smart City Brake System (SCBS) Driver Attention Alert (DAA) Pedestrain Brake (F) Auto Door Lock Spare Tyre (Temporary) Edited July 24, 2017 by Notsogoodman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Read the news article on how Borneo managed to bring in this special Harrier last weekend. Was surprised to read that this is the first jap car with the latest Toyota Safety Sensing technology which include radar function that can lock on to a car infront and allow the driver to set a safety distance to follow behind where the car will regulate the speed automatically! Another useful feature is the car will recognise the lane marking on the road and alert when detects that the car is mobbing out of the lanes, aka lane departure detection feature. But not sure if these are available across all the variants. If I were looking at these 2 models, the safety aspects would swing me straight away to the Toyota camp. But that is only my opinion, haha. The Lane Keep Assist System is already available in top specs Mazda 6 & CX-5.... Somehow Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) was not brought in, I am not sure if it's their system that couldn't pass LTA regulation? I mean they have a Super Luxury trim with all the bells and whistles but left out MRCC..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 The Lane Keep Assist System is already available in top specs Mazda 6 & CX-5.... Somehow Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) was not brought in, I am not sure if it's their system that couldn't pass LTA regulation? I mean they have a Super Luxury trim with all the bells and whistles but left out MRCC..... OK, got a reply from the SE. They did not want to bring in MRCC as it is going to be costly and not frequently USED. From our text exchanged, he likens adaptive cruise control as just a normal cruise control with the ability to stop when the car in front stops........ It is really much more advance than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Again , it all comes down to $$$. Are potential CX-5 customers willing to pay additional $15k for them to bring it in? Mind you, a factory option of say $5K after passing through our LTA, the option can easily triple. OK, got a reply from the SE. They did not want to bring in MRCC as it is going to be costly and not frequently USED. From our text exchanged, he likens adaptive cruise control as just a normal cruise control with the ability to stop when the car in front stops........ It is really much more advance than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparhawk699 1st Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 OK, got a reply from the SE. They did not want to bring in MRCC as it is going to be costly and not frequently USED. From our text exchanged, he likens adaptive cruise control as just a normal cruise control with the ability to stop when the car in front stops........ It is really much more advance than that MRCC is useful if only for long route driving, like driving into Malaysia, etc, in Singapore, you will seldom use it. I think one of the more useful features will be the Smart City Brake, this will help minimise front collision like those you see in a 2-3 car accident or having a pedestrian suddenly walking into the car's way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Again , it all comes down to $$$. Are potential CX-5 customers willing to pay additional $15k for them to bring it in? Mind you, a factory option of say $5K after passing through our LTA, the option can easily triple. It's more about how much margin TEK want to make on each vehicle sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Yes... it's either customer $$$ or TEK's $$$ Either way, the excuse "not used frequently", you know, I know is just sales talk. It's more about how much margin TEK want to make on each vehicle sale 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 (edited) Yes... it's either customer $$$ or TEK's $$$ Either way, the excuse "not used frequently", you know, I know is just sales talk. I "praise" you too much liao, cannot "praise" again.. Here is a BIG "PRAISE" for you Edited July 24, 2017 by Notsogoodman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry4D 2nd Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 OK, got a reply from the SE. They did not want to bring in MRCC as it is going to be costly and not frequently USED. From our text exchanged, he likens adaptive cruise control as just a normal cruise control with the ability to stop when the car in front stops........ It is really much more advance than that Nowsaday there are many "high tech" features in a car but somehow is it really helpful? Unless it is a driverless car, I feel we can go without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor 2nd Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 (edited) Just signed the Super-Lux package. The downside of this package is that it is factory fitted with White leather seat (only). I've highlighted the difficulty in maintaining pure white leather seat and insisted on changing them away..... Even Off-white or Beige color would be anytime better and easier to maintain. Unfortunately, they claimed that I couldn't change the leather color option. Any tips on how to maintain the pristine condition of this color ? Thanks Edited July 24, 2017 by Sailor 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Don't wear jeans or any material that will stain the white leather. Very industrial in cleaning your leather seats monthly if not weekly. Ban your kids from the car (joking). Get some customised car seat protector, but that will spoil the looks. Btw, in the face of the overwhelming BM's Harrier Turbo force, you chose the contrarian competitor. First of all, kudos to that! But will be keen to hear your decision making process. Just signed the Super-Lux package. The downside of this package is that it is factory fitted with White leather seat (only). I've highlighted the difficulty in maintaining pure white leather seat and insisted on changing them away..... Even Off-white or Beige color would be anytime better and easier to maintain. Unfortunately, they claimed that I couldn't change the leather color option. Any tips on how to maintain the pristine condition of this color ? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpy 4th Gear July 24, 2017 Share July 24, 2017 Just signed the Super-Lux package. The downside of this package is that it is factory fitted with White leather seat (only). I've highlighted the difficulty in maintaining pure white leather seat and insisted on changing them away..... Even Off-white or Beige color would be anytime better and easier to maintain. Unfortunately, they claimed that I couldn't change the leather color option. Any tips on how to maintain the pristine condition of this color ? Thanks Lots of car detailers around who can probably clean and refresh the leather if you send it in once a year. Otherwise you can always reupholster it after 2-3 years to a darker shade. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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