2014 / 2015 BMW 2 Series Active / Gran Tourer

[Aukang]

Also must send all BMW queries to him for vetting before posting here...

If not , sure Kanna deep deep from him n banned from buying BMW

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Must take the 60% loan to enjoy all the freebies n generous over trade offers..

But u can redeem the loan after 4 installments n pay a penalty of 20% of the outstanding loan amt..

Many people going for this routeð

20% of loan amount or 20% extra interest? 20% of outstanding still sounds like a hefty amount...

[Damienic]

Hi Damien,

As far as I have followed up since Aug last year, the 218i was brought in by PML earlier on and has since stopped.

But if the mileage is already 29K - it is not mngt unit. Maybe someone's trade-in.

So far i have seen all PPSL mngt units are about 3Kkm+++

 

And so the 216d is the current models that PML is carrying.

 

I did try test drive of 218i at PPSL some time ago - I could not figure out the difference in driving and handling between the 2.

However, I do like my current 216d which is very fast responsive at accelerating and overtaking - it's 275NM torque, huge for this sized car!

 

Eric's

"FYI, my 2AT Mgmt unit was 5mths old with only ~3K mileage. Still smells like a new car when I bought it.

IMHO, I think quite worth the money for a 5mths old car. :) "

 

That is a super deal!

 

 

Enjoy!

Thank you both for advice. I only had one concern.

 

I was being told in the past that Diesel engines is more suited for long distance and high mileage driving and that it is not so good if one is doing less highway driving but with slightly more start stop urban driving. Is this true?

[mxc160]

Thank you both for advice. I only had one concern.

 

I was being told in the past that Diesel engines is more suited for long distance and high mileage driving and that it is not so good if one is doing less highway driving but with slightly more start stop urban driving. Is this true?

 

Hi,

I used to have similar doubt and bias of diesel engine while had always been on a petrol car.

But in the last 3 months driving this 216d (not tried on other diesel car yet), I have totally come clear off from that concern.

Noise is only audible at start and low rev. Once picking up speed, it's gone and as quiet.

 

I'm more driving around neighbour and in town than on highway (PIE in the morning rushing to send kids) - the 216d is very nimble and agile when zooming around.  Once on Sport mode, you will be amazed how fast this car picks up and beats the horde around you before a traffic junction.

 

A big advantage of diesel car for urban driving is - you don't care about fast fuel burning by aircon when you are often idle at traffic light.

That is big deal for a petrol car, but nothing for the diesel.

 

Enjoy!

[Damienic]

Hi,

I used to have similar doubt and bias of diesel engine while had always been on a petrol car.

But in the last 3 months driving this 216d (not tried on other diesel car yet), I have totally come clear off from that concern.

Noise is only audible at start and low rev. Once picking up speed, it's gone and as quiet.

 

I'm more driving around neighbour and in town than on highway (PIE in the morning rushing to send kids) - the 216d is very nimble and agile when zooming around. Once on Sport mode, you will be amazed how fast this car picks up and beats the horde around you before a traffic junction.

 

A big advantage of diesel car for urban driving is - you don't care about fast fuel burning by aircon when you are often idle at traffic light.

That is big deal for a petrol car, but nothing for the diesel.

 

Enjoy!

Thanks for your feedback.

 

Last time when I test drove the diesel Jaguar XF, the SE told me there is this diesel particulate filter warning light that might light up from time to time if one is doing a lot more urban driving with their diesel cars and that I can take the car for a spin on highway for several minutes to clear it if it lights up.

 

I think is a bit of this described in below link:

 

https://www.avforums.com/threads/how-to-clear-the-blocked-dpf-diesel-particulate-filter.1574068/

 

Do you experience this?

 

I must admit the low end torque of the diesel feels really good.

[7hm]

Thank you both for advice. I only had one concern.

 

I was being told in the past that Diesel engines is more suited for long distance and high mileage driving and that it is not so good if one is doing less highway driving but with slightly more start stop urban driving. Is this true?

 

Less of an issue of not being able to handle city and low mileage driving as compared to not having a chance for the diesel particulate filter (DPF) having insufficient time to do its regeneration.

 

It's recommended to take a diesel on a long distance, preferrably expressway, drive from time to time to help the DPF regenerate better.

[Vwguy77]

Currently there is a pre-owned 218i but I doubt it is a Mgmt unit.

The price is also $129,800 but very much higher mileage (~29K) and older in age (>1yr old). 

I would suggest taking 216d Mgmt unit if available. 

FYI, my 2AT Mgmt unit was 5mths old with only ~3K mileage. Still smells like a new car when I bought it.

IMHO, I think quite worth the money for a 5mths old car. :)

 

PPSL will mention that in the ad if its a management car. In the case, the 218i is probably a trade in car. 

 

So far i have seen all PPSL mngt units are about 3Kkm+++

 

Occasionally, there are some PPSL management car that has over 15K km or even higher but still in the acceptable range.

[inlinesix]

new x1 and 216gt shares the same PCD 5x112

 

but

 

rims & tyres profile is different.. 216GT will look weird with those thick tyres

 

Plus speedo will be off by 3%.

 

Need to change it to 225/45 18.

 

Thanks for your feedback.

 

Last time when I test drove the diesel Jaguar XF, the SE told me there is this diesel particulate filter warning light that might light up from time to time if one is doing a lot more urban driving with their diesel cars and that I can take the car for a spin on highway for several minutes to clear it if it lights up.

 

I think is a bit of this described in below link:

 

https://www.avforums.com/threads/how-to-clear-the-blocked-dpf-diesel-particulate-filter.1574068/

 

Do you experience this?

 

I must admit the low end torque of the diesel feels really good.

 

Juz drive one once a mth from east to west & back.

 

DPF problem solved.

[Zakuii]

Plus speedo will be off by 3%.

 

Need to change it to 225/45 18.

 

 

 

Juz drive one once a mth from east to west & back.

 

DPF problem solved.

Just need to drive above 60kph non stop for some time to cleanse the DPF. Should be easily done in singapore. Edited September 12, 2016 by Zakuii

[Damienic]

Just need to drive above 60kph non stop for some time to cleanse the DPF. Should be easily done in singapore.

Thanks all for the advice.

[Spring]

Currently there is a pre-owned 218i but I doubt it is a Mgmt unit.

The price is also $129,800 but very much higher mileage (~29K) and older in age (>1yr old). 

I would suggest taking 216d Mgmt unit if available. 

FYI, my 2AT Mgmt unit was 5mths old with only ~3K mileage. Still smells like a new car when I bought it.

IMHO, I think quite worth the money for a 5mths old car. :)

Just wondering whether it's more worth to get a pre-owned, higher mileage car at a lower price but likely with one owner who I assume will be more careful vs a Mgmt car with lower mileage and higher price but likely be whacked by test drives, organized trips, courtesy car etc?

 

I also believe the Mgmt car will not have free service and some items like cam, mats, solar film which are not that critical but nevertheless good to have vs pre owned cars having all these and free service etc. No right, no wrong but just curious which would you guys choose?

[Wira]

Just wondering whether it's more worth to get a pre-owned, higher mileage car at a lower price but likely with one owner who I assume will be more careful vs a Mgmt car with lower mileage and higher price but likely be whacked by test drives, organized trips, courtesy car etc?

 

I also believe the Mgmt car will not have free service and some items like cam, mats, solar film which are not that critical but nevertheless good to have vs pre owned cars having all these and free service etc. No right, no wrong but just curious which would you guys choose?

If you find a pre-owned 216D car on sale and all other things being equal may be worth to get the pre-owned car if it comes with other freebies like free service, camera, solar film and also cost same as the management unit.

 

So far didn't see any pre owned cars for 216D though. Probably still too new in market.

[Icetrap]

Just wondering whether it's more worth to get a pre-owned, higher mileage car at a lower price but likely with one owner who I assume will be more careful vs a Mgmt car with lower mileage and higher price but likely be whacked by test drives, organized trips, courtesy car etc?

 

I also believe the Mgmt car will not have free service and some items like cam, mats, solar film which are not that critical but nevertheless good to have vs pre owned cars having all these and free service etc. No right, no wrong but just curious which would you guys choose?

New car will be better but it all depends on your budget.

 

You should get those road shows cars will be better.

[therock]

Just wondering whether it's more worth to get a pre-owned, higher mileage car at a lower price but likely with one owner who I assume will be more careful vs a Mgmt car with lower mileage and higher price but likely be whacked by test drives, organized trips, courtesy car etc?

 

I also believe the Mgmt car will not have free service and some items like cam, mats, solar film which are not that critical but nevertheless good to have vs pre owned cars having all these and free service etc. No right, no wrong but just curious which would you guys choose?

Bro

I did the maths, right now, a new car beats a 1-2 year old car. You also get more niceties, plus that feeling of owning a new car :)

[Ericmar]

Just wondering whether it's more worth to get a pre-owned, higher mileage car at a lower price but likely with one owner who I assume will be more careful vs a Mgmt car with lower mileage and higher price but likely be whacked by test drives, organized trips, courtesy car etc?

 

I also believe the Mgmt car will not have free service and some items like cam, mats, solar film which are not that critical but nevertheless good to have vs pre owned cars having all these and free service etc. No right, no wrong but just curious which would you guys choose?

 

Hi Spring,

 

As far as I know, mgmt cars are used by those BMW execs for them to have a feel of the new models they are selling, not used as test drive cars. That's why all Mgmt cars are registered. Event cars, test drive cars are not registered if I am not wrong. Mgmt cars do not come with free 3 or 5yrs servicing but 3yrs warranty. It also does not come with freebies like car mats, solar film, etc. Mileage is usually clocked below 4000km. 

 

However, imagine you are saving at least some $15K to own these certified pre-owned cars. You could have used those money to get whatever that is not included you want, as well as cover for the first 3 to 5yrs servicing. 

 

Just my 2 cents!

[sti8k]

Really depends on the price difference. The PPSL unit is usually $18k lower than listed price. But COE diff is about $5k. Taking that into account, the difference is reduced to $15k for some usage, 2nd ownership, no free servicing and no choice of colour. Really depends how much one will price for these items.

[vin2211]

Bro, I think you are referring to the Active Tourer and not the GT that was pointed out.

 

216D Active Tourer

PML (New): $150K(before SE discount... can get a few $Ks off)

PPSL (Few months old): $129K (Can go about $3K lower)

 

216D Grand Touer

PML (New): $165K (before SE discount... can get a few $Ks off)

PPSL (Few months old): $139K (Can go about $3K lower)

 

So, the mgmt PPSL is more than $6K off that you are referring to. Thats why its very popular and gone within a day or 2 (sometimes even a few hours).

 

As for the smell, it still smell newish to me... haha...

 

 

I thought the 216GT Mgmt car is selling at 149k? Last time it was 139k when the PML was selling the new one for 157k.

[Rayoflight]

yea i also saw that the 216gt was priced at 149k for pre-owned. Usually gone in 1-2days

[Spring]

Tks guys for the replies, just wanted to stimulate food for thought for perspective buyers more keen on going the Used route esp since the first batch of 2GTs will be a year old in Nov so some may be in the market soon, if not already.

 

Just to clarify on the Mgmt cars, some were used for the PML KL trip in April this year. Think there were 10 used, I know cos I took part. And I also know of one being used as a courtesy car, no harm of course as cars meant to be used so just creating awareness that Mgmt cars not exactly used by Mgmt only.