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I feel there are more cons than pro sound insulating the car's interior. Adding weight is definitely a con for me. And I also want some feedback noises.

You cant actually do a full sound insulation cos the windows, front and rear windscreen. Double glazing windows do minimize but not sound proof.

Costing about 1K+ to 2K might as well spend it on quiet tires.

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3 hours ago, Arogab said:

There are so many factor in the sound proofing. Since you say the sound reduce after you added rubber seal to the rubber doors and you see the results. There will be other people who says not good enough cos sound may also be coming in from wheels well and the base below the seat. And also the glass being double layered for better sound proof will play a part

Yes. Depends on where the source noise come from, which differs from each make. My case was exterior noise intrusion due to Avante HD thinner door glass and soft door seals despite original has double layer (one on body and one on door).

I did soundproofed wheelarch and some internal panels which made the "bump and thump" sounded more solid instead of overall noise reduction compare to original hollow sound.

Our neighbours (Msia) have foam charged some of the body internal structure which the feedback was pretty positive.

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11 minutes ago, Heartbreakid said:

Yes. Depends on where the source noise come from, which differs from each make. My case was exterior noise intrusion due to Avante HD thinner door glass and soft door seals despite original has double layer (one on body and one on door).

I did soundproofed wheelarch and some internal panels which made the "bump and thump" sounded more solid instead of overall noise reduction compare to original hollow sound.

Our neighbours (Msia) have foam charged some of the body internal structure which the feedback was pretty positive.

I was told Tuff Kote is also good. Can try, but my car after those installation is already damn quiet and I don't think I will do anymore. After doing, now also find it hard to let go after 5 years. Anyway, my car still damn new due to under utility

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54 minutes ago, Arogab said:

I was told Tuff Kote is also good. Can try, but my car after those installation is already damn quiet and I don't think I will do anymore. After doing, now also find it hard to let go after 5 years. Anyway, my car still damn new due to under utility

Avante by default from Komoco already has the tuff kote applied here. And it has a yearly follow up but I didn't proceed with it. Only at year 10 when my car renewed COE, I went to do undercarriage and wheel arch coating by E-rev (which actually needed to be done at Tan Chong Ubi servicing centre). To be honest, is only slight improvement.

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Just now, Heartbreakid said:

Avante by default from Komoco already has the tuff kote applied here. And it has a yearly follow up but I didn't proceed with it. Only at year 10 when my car renewed COE, I went to do undercarriage and wheel arch coating by E-rev (which actually needed to be done at Tan Chong Ubi servicing centre). To be honest, is only slight improvement?

I thot it should be done when the car is brand new. Doing at ten years old to me is not worthwhile liao. I drove my car to install them in the first week. I still enjoy it at 5 years old

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2 hours ago, Arogab said:

I thot it should be done when the car is brand new. Doing at ten years old to me is not worthwhile liao. I drove my car to install them in the first week. I still enjoy it at 5 years old

When the car was new it came with tuff kote, so I turn to interior sound proofing and eventually what improved the insulation significantly was after worked on the door seals. 

Year 10 application was due to age and after replacement of all suspension bushings (which again improve NVH abit).

These are the bits and bits that added up together. I can only say it is better than it was new but not to executive luxury car level and don't think it can be because it wasn't engineered to that level. Hahaha.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Heartbreakid said:

When the car was new it came with tuff kote, so I turn to interior sound proofing and eventually what improved the insulation significantly was after worked on the door seals. 

Year 10 application was due to age and after replacement of all suspension bushings (which again improve NVH abit).

These are the bits and bits that added up together. I can only say it is better than it was new but not to executive luxury car level. 

 

 

Well, now I got it. But anyway, ten years already, I also don't think I want to make it good unless it rattles. Imagine I am so comfortable iwth my car and come to Thailand drive the Fortuner with a pickup chassis and diesel engine. Still got to take it

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42 minutes ago, Heartbreakid said:

When the car was new it came with tuff kote, so I turn to interior sound proofing and eventually what improved the insulation significantly was after worked on the door seals. 

Year 10 application was due to age and after replacement of all suspension bushings (which again improve NVH abit).

These are the bits and bits that added up together. I can only say it is better than it was new but not to executive luxury car level and don't think it can be because it wasn't engineered to that level. Hahaha.

 

 

Tuff kote is a waste of money. Only komoco does it now. Rust proof simi. All take care of by factory. Extra nonsense by tuff kote can only make it worse. 
only useful for cars in the 70-80s and maybe early 90s. No modern car needs any rust proofing. 

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1 hour ago, Mkl22 said:

Tuff kote is a waste of money. Only komoco does it now. Rust proof simi. All take care of by factory. Extra nonsense by tuff kote can only make it worse. 
only useful for cars in the 70-80s and maybe early 90s. No modern car needs any rust proofing. 

I think the tuff kote Komoco does is more on the soundproofing and abrasion protection for the undercarriage and wheel arches because I noticed I can't see the bare metal shape forming within the wheel arch like some makes and they are pretty thickly applied.

You are right that cars from 90s onwards, rust proofing is not applicable since this issue has been well taken care of. And also since BnB cars these days have undercarriage and wheel arch panels protection which also helps on insulation a bit, undercoating is not really relevant.

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Next time you look for a car that has noise cancelling feature. I read it can remove 90% of unwanted noise in the car interior.

You dont have to add unnecessary weight by installing those sound deadening mats.

 

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Talking about wearing ear plugs. If really going this route (for driving or office/home use) can consider noise cancelling ear/head phones. Nowadays cheap ones also has great noise cancelling tech. My $60 taotronics headphones has very good noise cancelling. Sometimes wear it at home when it is very noisy outside (reno, etc). Just switch on the noise cancelling without feeding any music. It is wireless.

 

Btw, soundproof is such a popular problem with car owners and many spent $1000 on heavy add-on material to reduce noise, which is often negligible. Why are there not many car interior noise cancelling devices around? I think such technology should be mature and cheap by now (see those in cheap earphones). I remember the previous gen accord has such a feature but I wonder how much does it work? If the effect is the same we get from earphones then it should be great. Cancel outside noise but no impact on interior sound.

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22 minutes ago, awhtc said:

Debris and stone projectiles from high-speed driving can scratch the original coating at the undercarriage and wheel arches.

I intend to keep my cars for more than 10 years, so I did rustproof coating for my cars. 

Yes. For cars like mine, Avante HD with no undercarriage or wheelarch panels. That's what I did too. 

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20 hours ago, Mkl22 said:

Tuff kote is a waste of money. Only komoco does it now. Rust proof simi. All take care of by factory. Extra nonsense by tuff kote can only make it worse. 
only useful for cars in the 70-80s and maybe early 90s. No modern car needs any rust proofing. 

They have a tie up with tuff kote. Otherwise I don't see any economic sense applying this on all the cars they sell.

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On 10/4/2021 at 6:27 PM, gk3 said:

Thanks for all the replies. I have decided to sound proof my car with Dats Auto after hearing all the good reviews. The full package is below 1k. Which I find it reasonable. No harm trying and hopefully it help abit with the noise.

Once available, please do share photo of your new K3, full package details (type of layer and number of layer) and final cost.. interesting to know sir. 

anyway who you get recommended to "Dats Auto" ?

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Those who did very good Sound Proofing can be excuse in front of our Judge if the Driver run over & kill the Person,can show the Judge his Sound Proofing Work,so cannot hear anything.

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