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Then how come steering column need to be replaced within a few months of driving?

Low OMV could be result of cost savings from factory set up cost, rental n also labour costs. Not necessarily from low quality of parts.

Too simplistic to deduce that quality of car is low due to low OMV.

Volvo cars have low OMV compared to their peers but I don't hear complaints on low quality.

 

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Then how come steering column need to be replaced within a few months of driving?

agree, potentially clearing faulty stock, thats y no question ask and chg for u...

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I guess they do not know which batch of cars are defective.So they sell as it comes.  Anyway as a reputable agent, they will rectify FOC during warranty period.

agree, potentially clearing faulty stock, thats y no question ask and chg for u...

 

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Then how come steering column need to be replaced within a few months of driving?

I drive BMW n though my car no issue, there were quite a few who had issues n mind u, my model is made in Germany (216 Gran tourer). So is my car low quality? Maybe but it’s definitely not reflected in the OMV nor place of manufacture.

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Warranty repairs by the agent isn't 'free'. They are back charged to the factory. Who would probably back charge to the supplier.

 

 

 

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I guess they do not know which batch of cars are defective.So they sell as it comes. Anyway as a reputable agent, they will rectify FOC during warranty period.

Hi

 

I have no issue with the car after driving for 7 months, travelled about 9k. I am mindful not to turn the steering wheel hard to the extreme end, same as my previous cars.

 

As mentioned, this car is value for money. No regret.

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No cost savings to speak of. When you see the low OMV, you will know that its built to  a tight cost so the company can make decent profits. In order for cost to be tight, the quality of the car suffers. And we have people here saying its a great value for money car.

 

So Hyundai Avante is a lousy low quality car?

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Yes. Brand new car, drive a few months, then have to change steering column etc......Its not acceptable.

Give me 20 dislike points if you cannot take the truth. I am just being super honest.

So Hyundai Avante is a lousy low quality car?

 

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Yes. Brand new car, drive a few months, then have to change steering column etc......Its not acceptable.

Give me 20 dislike points if you cannot take the truth. I am just being super honest.

Take a step back and observe the kind of reaction:

 

perceived budget brand with problem = "see lah, I told you it is a cheap car"

popular or atas brand = "see how responsible the manufacturers are to issue recall"

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Maybe you are right. Brand status and its perceived image are strongly ingrained in buyers' mind. That is the power of marketing and premium brands do spend a lot building up this image. 

Take a step back and observe the kind of reaction:

 

perceived budget brand with problem = "see lah, I told you it is a cheap car"

popular or atas brand = "see how responsible the manufacturers are to issue recall"

 

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Maybe you are right. Brand status and its perceived image are strongly ingrained in buyers' mind. That is the power of marketing and premium brands do spend a lot building up this image. 

 

It is similar to the reaction which car models are used as taxis or PHV:

 

Perceived budget brand = "wah (with suan) why you drive a taxi model ah"

Popular or atas brand = "wah you smart , this model must be very reliable, that's why taxi or PHV also use"

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Yes. Brand new car, drive a few months, then have to change steering column etc......Its not acceptable.

Give me 20 dislike points if you cannot take the truth. I am just being super honest.

How many of the them are affected by the steering problem? Even if it is , this could just be a design or manufacturing defect that they could get fixed, once done and if no other problems, we cannot say the brand to be of low quality.

I guess they do not know which batch of cars are defective.So they sell as it comes. Anyway as a reputable agent, they will rectify FOC during warranty period.

Even if they know which batch, it is always less costly and easier for them to sell first and fix in the field. As I said in my earlier post if they could have it fixed, if it is a one time problem, we cannot say they have reliability issue.
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I would say that Hyundai partnership with Komoco is good. Local agent fixed the problem without pushing it away. Imagine you buy a Honda Fit and go to PI....Not every PI will take the responsibility like Komoco do.

How many of the them are affected by the steering problem? Even if it is , this could just be a design or manufacturing defect that they could get fixed, once done and if no other problems, we cannot say the brand to be of low quality.

 


Reliability issue I can say its still too early to tell. Afterall, this is a relatively new model. 

How many of the them are affected by the steering problem? Even if it is , this could just be a design or manufacturing defect that they could get fixed, once done and if no other problems, we cannot say the brand to be of low quality.
Even if they know which batch, it is always less costly and easier for them to sell first and fix in the field. As I said in my earlier post if they could have it fixed, if it is a one time problem, we cannot say they have reliability issue.

 

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just my 2 cents, after test drive M3 (the 2018 one(standard version) and the new avante(elite) in Dec2018 or early Jan 2019), if you really drive cars for a few years, you can tell avante is of lower quality overall in terms of interior design or driving experience...

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