Carbon82 Moderator January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Theoldjaffa said: But seriously fog lamps are as useful as combs to bald people Reminded me of an old Chinese dialect riddle: 给和尚一把梳子。猜一个国家。(Give a comb to monk. Guess a country) Answer: 苏格兰 (Scotland), because 梳个藍... ↡ Advertisement 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia7200 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 8 hours ago, 13177 said: Agreed la. Lol. Like people say i dont like your face but no need to give a reason for that lo. He is a hardcore TL la. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia7200 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Rickster said: My dad did that like way back in the 90s when a corolla easily 100K. He does not care about how a car drives, he does not care about the performance of a car, he does not care about how the car really looks (he's seen the brochure). All he cares about is: 1) Made in Japan 2) Reliable 3) Got resale value 4) Big enough for the family Not sure whether it dad knew Altis was made in Thailand decades ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxcvb Turbocharged January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 12:47 PM, Fellows said: WTF is BM doing? Look quite nice on the outside and come with Toyota Safety sense and when you look at the damn infotainment system, what with all the thick bezel and small system? facepalm. Compare to 12th gen JDM Corolla that come with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay....oh my gosh, even the KIA K3 GT Line one is nicer! Guys, how can we allow the biggest volume car seller authorised dealer Borneo Motors offer such shoddy product to us in year 2020?!?! When internet-savvy consumers have to simply do a google or youtube search on this car make, hundreds of reviews across US, Europe, Japan, Asia are available. Hey Borneo Motors, long gone are our parents generation. By offering this type of products shows you have absolutely no pride nor ownership in the dealership. More like a insult to Singapore consumers. Even Taiwan's 12th Generation Corolla has way better than this piece of crap HU. No complain, no improvement. Remember when Kah Motors brought in the low spec Thailand HRV selling more expensive than the higher spec PI Japan Vezel kenna huge backlash?? Then they changed their mind to bring in from Japan thereafter. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Zxcvb said: Guys, how can we allow the biggest volume car seller authorised dealer Borneo Motors offer such shoddy product to us in year 2020?!?! When internet-savvy consumers have to simply do a google or youtube search on this car make, hundreds of reviews across US, Europe, Japan, Asia are available. Hey Borneo Motors, long gone are our parents generation. By offering this type of products shows you have absolutely no pride nor ownership in the dealership. More like a insult to Singapore consumers. Even Taiwan's 12th Generation Corolla has way better than this piece of crap HU. No complain, no improvement. Remember when Kah Motors brought in the low spec Thailand HRV selling more expensive than the higher spec PI Japan Vezel kenna huge backlash?? Then they changed their mind to bring in from Japan thereafter. The factory head unit is removed when imported, so as to reduce the OMV, otherwise if it exceeds 20k, it will fall into Cat B, making it out of reach for more buyers, not to mention the higher Coe price. It is the same reason as to why Borneo doesn't bring in the 1.8l or even 2l version which is a better engine. This is marketing strategy and as long as it sells well, that is their objectives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratakosong 2nd Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ingenius said: The factory head unit is removed when imported, so as to reduce the OMV, otherwise if it exceeds 20k, it will fall into Cat B, making it out of reach for more buyers, not to mention the higher Coe price. It is the same reason as to why Borneo doesn't bring in the 1.8l or even 2l version which is a better engine. This is marketing strategy and as long as it sells well, that is their objectives. The OMV for the Corolla Atis 2020 elegance is already close to $23k. So max loan is 60% if I am not mistaken. Cat B COE only applies if the engine capacity is above 1600cc or 130bhp. The HU, while ugly, is the exact same HU as what Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand are getting. Only some of the top spec variants in ASEAN get the nice floating screen type of HU. Even 1.8L will be considered to be underpowered. This car requires a minimum 2L pot to really go. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kia7200 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 Base on his logic Gla180 1.6l Omv28k++ should be Cat B lo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Cheefarn said: BM is banking on the fast shrinking group of people who still buys by the badge, completely oblivious to what other makes can offer these days... Seriously the korean makes are as reliable as Toyota these days... with some models even beating the shit outta Toyota anytime Indeed true that Toyota is selling by their badge rather than what their cars have which can offer to customers. For other make like korean cars, since they are not selling by their badge, thats why they need to improved on their design, features, safety and reliability. If not dont think anyone would want to buy liao. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, RogerNg_185295 said: All cars where got good resale value one? They pay you a few k above paper value and that's it. Correct? That's true if u trade in to dealers. If consignment, prices will be much better than a few above paper. Generally true for cars that are less than 5 yrs old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Kia7200 said: Not sure whether it dad knew Altis was made in Thailand decades ago The G9 corolla aka hipporola is the last made in Japan corolla brought in by Borneo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear January 13, 2020 Share January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Zxcvb said: Guys, how can we allow the biggest volume car seller authorised dealer Borneo Motors offer such shoddy product to us in year 2020?!?! When internet-savvy consumers have to simply do a google or youtube search on this car make, hundreds of reviews across US, Europe, Japan, Asia are available. Hey Borneo Motors, long gone are our parents generation. By offering this type of products shows you have absolutely no pride nor ownership in the dealership. More like a insult to Singapore consumers. Even Taiwan's 12th Generation Corolla has way better than this piece of crap HU. No complain, no improvement. Remember when Kah Motors brought in the low spec Thailand HRV selling more expensive than the higher spec PI Japan Vezel kenna huge backlash?? Then they changed their mind to bring in from Japan thereafter. As long as PI don't bring in the Corolla, Borneo will continue to sell low spec cars with high margin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Zxcvb said: Guys, how can we allow the biggest volume car seller authorised dealer Borneo Motors offer such shoddy product to us in year 2020?!?! When internet-savvy consumers have to simply do a google or youtube search on this car make, hundreds of reviews across US, Europe, Japan, Asia are available. Hey Borneo Motors, long gone are our parents generation. By offering this type of products shows you have absolutely no pride nor ownership in the dealership. More like a insult to Singapore consumers. Even Taiwan's 12th Generation Corolla has way better than this piece of crap HU. No complain, no improvement. Remember when Kah Motors brought in the low spec Thailand HRV selling more expensive than the higher spec PI Japan Vezel kenna huge backlash?? Then they changed their mind to bring in from Japan thereafter. Because there are still hardcore supporters to this brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Rickster said: As long as PI don't bring in the Corolla, Borneo will continue to sell low spec cars with high margin. 96888 for the altis is extremely expensive. Moreover its still made in Thailand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Rickster said: The G9 corolla aka hipporola is the last made in Japan corolla brought in by Borneo. Still remember this last made in japan corolla sold here in 2003. This corolla steering super light and the brake also very sensitive. Many of my colleagues were driving this corolla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Rickster said: The G9 corolla aka hipporola is the last made in Japan corolla brought in by Borneo. Still remember this last made in japan corolla sold here in 2003. This corolla steering super light and the brake also very sensitive. Many of my colleagues were driving this corolla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwonder 1st Gear January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, RogerNg_185295 said: All cars where got good resale value one? They pay you a few k above paper value and that's it. Correct? Agreed, where got good resale value one. Good resale value is just a myth no matter what car. Edited January 14, 2020 by iwonder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, iwonder said: Agreed, where got good resale value one. Good resale value is just a myth no matter what car. Altis for example. Dealers and buyers will tell u they have too many altis in stock. How to give you a good price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 14, 2020 Share January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, RogerNg_185295 said: Altis for example. Dealers and buyers will tell u they have too many altis in stock. How to give you a good price Any car/make dealers also will tell you they have many stock of that particular model la. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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