Penknife 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 congrats guys!! while the NSC, which was originally scheduled for completion in 2019, has been repeatedly delayed. the Lornie Highway, also been repeatedly delayed (at least the south bound is up) ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 1:35 AM, Vratenza said: They are working from the downstream ....should target the up stream if they want to solve the root of the problem. Upstream: crappy unreliable public transport and connectivity Downstream: Punggol ah lians have no choice but to buy cars to transport themselves to work or send kids to school. Increasing the traffic load in the area that it was not designed for/planned for because the town planners ASS-U-ME that the MRT/bus network are reliable and is the "fashionable" choice for the young. Who say their public transport and connectivity is crappy unreliable? If you ask them, they would tell you their public transport is very reliable and good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 This one doesn’t change anything if I’m travelling to YISHUN from Buangkok/Punggol park area right? Still must go and squeeze with the rest into tpe(sle)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxcvb Turbocharged November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 This tampines flyover should be made similarly over at the other 2 junctions that’s bottlenecking the entire punggol/sengkang population!!! The solution is to build flyover or overpass. To exit and enter TPE have to wait 2 traffic lights, which takes eternity during peak period. Very bad planning and foresight. In JB, they build flyover just so you can U-turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 3:05 AM, Zxcvb said: This tampines flyover should be made similarly over at the other 2 junctions that’s bottlenecking the entire punggol/sengkang population!!! The solution is to build flyover or overpass. To exit and enter TPE have to wait 2 traffic lights, which takes eternity during peak period. Very bad planning and foresight. In JB, they build flyover just so you can U-turn. What solution?? Even if ppl change their cars to bicycles the roads will still be jammed because everyone leaves home the same time for work/school/childcare. Imo build what also no use. Put forward the best planning you will still get the same result. Ppl on top have to limit the number of cars so that it wouldn't overcrowd the roads they have just built. The thing to do now is to point finger and blame the gahment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormee 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Author Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 2:40 AM, Runforyourlife said: This one doesnât change anything if Iâm travelling to YISHUN from Buangkok/Punggol park area right? Still must go and squeeze with the rest into tpe(sle)? Got. Phase 2. The pink route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 3:38 AM, Watwheels said: What solution?? Even if ppl change their cars to bicycles the roads will still be jammed because everyone leaves home the same time for work/school/childcare. Imo build what also no use. Put forward the best planning you will still get the same result. Ppl on top have to limit the number of cars so that it wouldn't overcrowd the roads they have just built. The thing to do now is to point finger and blame the gahment. Blame gahment also no use cause they dont feel the impact of the jam-packed road and public transport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midorima 4th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 People are never satisfied. Build new road, say won't solve problem. Never build, say don't solve problem. Build MRT line, no use cause MRT breakdown. Never build MRT, government not solving problem. MRT breakdown, complain like no tomorrow. MRT never breakdown, nobody say anything, no praises (even the best transport systems around the world have breakdowns) Limit cars on road, coe high, complain government collect money and also cannot buy car. Don't limit car on road, always traffic jam, blame government for not building enough road, never restrict car. Build too much road, land become scarce, house become expensive, blame government again. ERP expensive, say government collect money free No ERP, traffic jam on road, blame government not building enough road. Increase driving costs like parking in town/cbd, like Australia, Japan, HK. People will complain like no tomorrow again. In my opinion, the gov never wins but at least they are trying to improve. Imagine during your work day, no matter what you do you are criticized, shiok anot? Then the argument will become million dollar ministers never do their job. Question is, if they pay you a million dollars, can you come up with a better solution or do a better job? People in the private sector are paid much more, then no need to be under such scrutiny. Only need to report to boss or shareholders. Won't dig out personal life etc. Isn't that better? Never ending. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQX87511 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 (edited) looks a bit narrow leh, should be 4 lanes at least each direction anyway this is the first Singapore construction project completed before schedule, which contractor it is? should be praised Edited November 12, 2018 by MQX87511 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 6:28 AM, Midorima said: People are never satisfied. Build new road, say won't solve problem. Never build, say don't solve problem. Build MRT line, no use cause MRT breakdown. Never build MRT, government not solving problem. MRT breakdown, complain like no tomorrow. MRT never breakdown, nobody say anything, no praises (even the best transport systems around the world have breakdowns) Limit cars on road, coe high, complain government collect money and also cannot buy car. Don't limit car on road, always traffic jam, blame government for not building enough road, never restrict car. Build too much road, land become scarce, house become expensive, blame government again. ERP expensive, say government collect money free No ERP, traffic jam on road, blame government not building enough road. Increase driving costs like parking in town/cbd, like Australia, Japan, HK. People will complain like no tomorrow again. In my opinion, the gov never wins but at least they are trying to improve. Imagine during your work day, no matter what you do you are criticized, shiok anot? Then the argument will become million dollar ministers never do their job. Question is, if they pay you a million dollars, can you come up with a better solution or do a better job? People in the private sector are paid much more, then no need to be under such scrutiny. Only need to report to boss or shareholders. Won't dig out personal life etc. Isn't that better? Never ending. I praise you first, but you better standby tons of dislikes coming your way... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQX87511 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 6:28 AM, Midorima said: People are never satisfied. Build new road, say won't solve problem. Never build, say don't solve problem. Build MRT line, no use cause MRT breakdown. Never build MRT, government not solving problem. MRT breakdown, complain like no tomorrow. MRT never breakdown, nobody say anything, no praises (even the best transport systems around the world have breakdowns) Limit cars on road, coe high, complain government collect money and also cannot buy car. Don't limit car on road, always traffic jam, blame government for not building enough road, never restrict car. Build too much road, land become scarce, house become expensive, blame government again. ERP expensive, say government collect money free No ERP, traffic jam on road, blame government not building enough road. Increase driving costs like parking in town/cbd, like Australia, Japan, HK. People will complain like no tomorrow again. In my opinion, the gov never wins but at least they are trying to improve. Imagine during your work day, no matter what you do you are criticized, shiok anot? Then the argument will become million dollar ministers never do their job. Question is, if they pay you a million dollars, can you come up with a better solution or do a better job? People in the private sector are paid much more, then no need to be under such scrutiny. Only need to report to boss or shareholders. Won't dig out personal life etc. Isn't that better? Never ending. besides "collect money", is there any other way to improve traffic condition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugimoto 6th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 I think I also give you praise 1st because I can foresee dislike coming soon to your way. Here is what I think... On 11/12/2018 at 6:28 AM, Midorima said: People are never satisfied. Build new road, say won't solve problem. Never build, say don't solve problem. Got build or never build new road will never solve the problem because it was planned poor in the 1st place. Build MRT line, no use cause MRT breakdown. Never build MRT, government not solving problem. Because got buy new one or use old train also got problem, remember the brand new China made MRT incident? MRT breakdown, complain like no tomorrow. MRT never breakdown, nobody say anything, no praises (even the best transport systems around the world have breakdowns) Because if got breakdown or no breakdown, fare still increased. How you expect ppl to praise? Limit cars on road, coe high, complain government collect money and also cannot buy car. Don't limit car on road, always traffic jam, blame government for not building enough road, never restrict car. Build too much road, land become scarce, house become expensive, blame government again. Cars dun create traffice jams, the main culprits are goondo drivers like road hoggers, no direcetion sense drivers & etc. ERP expensive, say government collect money free No ERP, traffic jam on road, blame government not building enough road. Got ERP also jam lah, take a look at CTE towards Braddell in the morning. Increase driving costs like parking in town/cbd, like Australia, Japan, HK. People will complain like no tomorrow again. Of cos will complain lah, If our public transport system can be like Australia, Japan, HK., sure everyone will not complain like no tomorrow. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blublak 3rd Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 (edited) On 11/12/2018 at 1:00 AM, 13177 said: Hopefully the new road will ease the heavy traffic during the peak hours. And not just another useless road built. Lol. exactly! keeping fingers crossed now coming skool holidays liao. some aldy go holiday liao. their cars all in hibernation mode... starting next year Jan when skool reopens than can really see REAL TIME SITUATION when they start sending kids & going work all at the same time whether it helps to ease the super jam. if not means Punggol super cramped aldy with houses popping like mushrooms!!! Edited November 12, 2018 by Blublak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 3:45 AM, Wormee said: Got. Phase 2. The pink route.Damn blur. Where to enter? Sengkang east way that new entrance into kpe (from the kfc to Punggol promenade to kpe entrance) issit can go to sle? On 11/12/2018 at 7:35 AM, Tianmo said: I praise you first, but you better standby tons of dislikes coming your way... No lo. Tons of praise lo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormee 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Author Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 9:16 AM, Runforyourlife said: Damn blur. Where to enter? Sengkang east way that new entrance into kpe (from the kfc to Punggol promenade to kpe entrance) issit can go to sle? No lo. Tons of praise lo. Phase 1, enter from Punggol Central (KFC there) to go into TPE/PIE and KPE towards town.From KPE going back can bypass TPE into Punggol Central. Phase 2, from Punggol Central can go Pasir Ris direct. From TPE Changi direction towards SLE can go back to Punggol Central with the new road. From KPE new flyover to TPE/SLE towards north. On 11/12/2018 at 9:10 AM, Blublak said: exactly! keeping fingers crossed now coming skool holidays liao. some aldy go holiday liao. their cars all in hibernation mode... starting next year Jan when skool reopens than can really see REAL TIME SITUATION when they start sending kids & going work all at the same time whether it helps to ease the super jam. if not means Punggol super cramped aldy with houses popping like mushrooms!!! Exact same thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 Not really leh...although I have 150 points to distribute everyday and 99% of the time i only use up 50 per day...yet, I don't see any point to give a dislike unless the person is an a**hole and get's personal in his statement. Everyone is entitled to their opinion in MCF. Just like 70% are entitled to live in their cocoon of blissfulness as long as they get to buy their HDB, SERS/VERS, GST vouchers, utilities rebate, Pioneer/Merdeka cards...... so on and so forth.... Not everyone have the capacity for higher critical thinking and analysis. Some people just have very simple basic needs, we must respect that and be inclusive as a society. On 11/12/2018 at 8:21 AM, Sugimoto said: I think I also give you praise 1st because I can foresee dislike coming soon to your way. Here is what I think... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 9:22 AM, Wormee said: Phase 1, enter from Punggol Central (KFC there) to go into TPE/PIE and KPE towards town. From KPE going back can bypass TPE into Punggol Central. Phase 2, from Punggol Central can go Pasir Ris direct. From TPE Changi direction towards SLE can go back to Punggol Central with the new road. From KPE new flyover to TPE/SLE towards north. Exact same thoughts. Hmmm I’m in parkview... need go sle Everyday. Doesn’t look like there’s any pros, perhaps only in p2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysc3 Twincharged November 12, 2018 Share November 12, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 3:38 AM, Watwheels said: What solution?? Even if ppl change their cars to bicycles the roads will still be jammed because everyone leaves home the same time for work/school/childcare. Imo build what also no use. Put forward the best planning you will still get the same result. Ppl on top have to limit the number of cars so that it wouldn't overcrowd the roads they have just built. The thing to do now is to point finger and blame the gahment. last time I work 8:30am I late for work almost everyday … then my boss ask me how to not be late ? then I told my boss, I start at 9:00am instead. so now my punctuality improve by leaps and bounds ! half an hour traffic on the road very different. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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