Multimillion-Dollar Civil Suits against 3 Workers’ Party MPs

[Fu11thr0tt1e]

36 minutes ago, Kusje said:

honest mistake.

Forgive and forget! 🙄

Edited October 15, 2019 by Fu11thr0tt1e

[Kusje]

24 minutes ago, Fu11thr0tt1e said:

Forgive and forget! 🙄

never do anything wrong, what's there to forgive?

 

but yes, please forget. esp during election.

Edited October 15, 2019 by Kusje

[Yewheng]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/pa-ps-divisive-approach-to-politics-is-polarising-singapore-society-pritam-singh-101043186.html

 

Pritam Singh spoken..

 

Seriously why need to have PA involved when it is under the whichever party in charge of the constituency, be it PAP or WP or any other opposition party.. By right PA should not have more say then MP as PA are not voted by the citizens. But look, how come PA can have so much power and can influence in decisions making? Haiz.. 

So PA is bigger then MP? PA is bigger then HDB? PA is bigger then town council and etc? 

Government should stop PA from lobbying.. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Yewheng

[Freeder]

On 10/14/2019 at 6:56 PM, Yewheng said:

If that's the case, then 880k bin centre, lehmon brother bond case and many more need to be brind to court, instead of ministers just give some reasons and then push it aside and not sueing anyone. 

 

Cant be, opposition slightest mistake, get magnified and then charged to court. Those under government service and or own party mistake, come out and give statement that convey its should have done better and what had been done to improve after that and then close case. 

 

Need to be fair, if want to go by slightest mistake go court then it should apply to all party and government organisations. Not just opposition party only. 

 

If don't want sue own party and or government organisations for slightest mistake, then it should also be applied fairly to opposition party too. 

 

Correct? 

If u know what I mean...

[Kyrios]

I wonder now imagine if got foreign journalist write article lambasting WP, will mr sham come out and say stop the foreign interference? After all he did say a few weeks back that if got foreign press write bad things about us and engage in interference he will take action?

Edited October 15, 2019 by Kyrios

[Kyrios]

On 10/14/2019 at 6:56 PM, Yewheng said:

If that's the case, then 880k bin centre, lehmon brother bond case and many more need to be brind to court, instead of ministers just give some reasons and then push it aside and not sueing anyone. 

Cant be, opposition slightest mistake, get magnified and then charged to court. Those under government service and or own party mistake, come out and give statement that convey its should have done better and what had been done to improve after that and then close case. 

Need to be fair, if want to go by slightest mistake go court then it should apply to all party and government organisations. Not just opposition party only. 

If don't want sue own party and or government organisations for slightest mistake, then it should also be applied fairly to opposition party too. 

Correct? 

Possibly one of the most unbiased postings so far...you da man YH...

[Playtime]

6 hours ago, Kyrios said:

I wonder now imagine if got foreign journalist write article lambasting WP, will mr sham come out and say stop the foreign interference? After all he did say a few weeks back that if got foreign press write bad things about us and engage in interference he will take action?

Just 2 weeks back on China national day.. he criticised hk leaders for what's going on... lucky China never shoot back openly. 

So foreign interference isn't the problem.. as long as it's not criticism of the pap.

[Playtime]

8 hours ago, Yewheng said:

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/pa-ps-divisive-approach-to-politics-is-polarising-singapore-society-pritam-singh-101043186.html

 

Pritam Singh spoken..

 

Seriously why need to have PA involved when it is under the whichever party in charge of the constituency, be it PAP or WP or any other opposition party.. By right PA should not have more say then MP as PA are not voted by the citizens. But look, how come PA can have so much power and can influence in decisions making? Haiz.. 

So PA is bigger then MP? PA is bigger then HDB? PA is bigger then town council and etc? 

Government should stop PA from lobbying.. 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/peoples-association-not-politicised-chan-chun-sing

 

Some think he is PM material... I shudder at the thought.. give him power and true colours who'l come. 

 

 

[Hamburger]

MIW would want all to believe that PA is a standalone entity,  just like how a SE is more appropriate than a PE.

 

 

 

 

what was the favourite phrase use by mobsters in HK?

[Vratenza]

1 hour ago, Playtime said:

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/peoples-association-not-politicised-chan-chun-sing

 

Some think he is PM material... I shudder at the thought.. give him power and true colours who'l come. 

 

 

"I say it is not politicised therefore it is not. End of conversation." 

Sound familiar? 😪

[Yewheng]

There is really a problem being PA that has more say then an MP.

 

1st, Coz PA is not voted by people of that constituency, so how can PA have more say then of the MP? 

 

Secondly, by giving PA a lot of power, these people on top somehow because want to put a good books to their boss, so end up maybe blinded because of that and approved or put in cases based on what that think is good for bosses to see. However bosses may not necessary want to go in that direction. So end up how? People in that constituency may get slight inconvenience, like the Pritam Singh example on the barrier access free ramp which by right just need a few months to complete, end up it took 7 years. 

 

So haiz.. 

[1fast1]

5 hours ago, Playtime said:

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/peoples-association-not-politicised-chan-chun-sing

 

Some think he is PM material... I shudder at the thought.. give him power and true colours who'l come. 

 

 

Some? Who? 

Tharman I can understand, even support. 

Even Heng Swee Keat, I get the argument. 

But the only idiots who think this idiot CCS is PM material are the deluded ones who're drunk on the ruling party's kool aid. 😂

[Lethalstrike]

1 hour ago, Yewheng said:

There is really a problem being PA that has more say then an MP.

 

1st, Coz PA is not voted by people of that constituency, so how can PA have more say then of the MP? 

 

Secondly, by giving PA a lot of power, these people on top somehow because want to put a good books to their boss, so end up maybe blinded because of that and approved or put in cases based on what that think is good for bosses to see. However bosses may not necessary want to go in that direction. So end up how? People in that constituency may get slight inconvenience, like the Pritam Singh example on the barrier access free ramp which by right just need a few months to complete, end up it took 7 years. 

 

So haiz.. 

Organs of state have already been used against own blood brother and nephew. Is there anything else they won't do? 

PA is just another tool at their disposal, to give trouble to WP for ward management related issues. 

[Ash2017]

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Edited October 16, 2019 by Ash2017

[Ash2017]

as I read the postings here I am really amused by the following facts:

 

1. we should actually slap ourselves out of our slumber because we keep complain and complain but we fail to realize that WE are the ones who put them in, in the first place

2. no political party is there to here another political party to win

3. each policy or directive made, nobody got the b a l l s to complain, all only complain behind close doors, after a few glass of beers complain a bit louder at kopitam, or complain in forum. those who come out to complain on our behalf instead of supporting them we turn tail and condemn them instead

4. the painful truth is majority of us are just plain selfish and individualistic, if we stand together as 1 people, you think any political party would just bull-doze there way around.

 

[Ash2017]

when we observe an action taken by PA we have to becareful how we judge their action if it is politically motivated

sometimes it is extremely difficult

 

let me explain 

PA works directly under the government

who forms the government of the day.... ruling party

the lines are very clear, but public confused between government activity and ruling party activity because citizens had been to associate government = PAP and PAP = government

so before we go shooting PA we need to search facts 

 

 

with the town council saga

many blame the ruling party or WP

but many forgot that the elephant in the room is the HDB

HDB has decades of experience running town councils, and are in know

so if any town councils run foul then HDB should be the entity to toe them back in line

unfortunately, HDB has the ambition to make money had form jv to manage town councils and here there is a conflict of interest

[Playtime]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/khaw-town-councils-political-by-nature

 

Political they say.. not political also they say. 

Also there was a case of a pap town council staff sacked for attanding opposition rally iirc..

Edited October 16, 2019 by Playtime

[Ash2017]

14 minutes ago, Playtime said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/khaw-town-councils-political-by-nature

 

Political they say.. not political also they say. 

Also there was a case of a pap town council staff sacked for attanding opposition rally iirc..

can help correct me if I am wrong

 

WP accused of getting managing agent (no political member) without tender

is it also true that PAP sold town council software to AIM (with 3 ex-political party members) without tender

 

are both facts true