LTA completes 200km worth of sheltered walkways under S$300m

[Lala81]

any one can check with china prefab shelter... how much they can charge for this?

 

https://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Prefab_Shelter.html

 

by my PERSONAL understanding and ESTIMATION of the costing in the above list ... My personal ESTIMATE of actual prefab costs is between 

30mil to 60mil sgd for 200km (100~200usd/m)  not including delivery and installation costs.. 

 

Hence.. i really wish for LTA to show a breakdown costs.  

 

I still think 300mil is too steep.

 

see if WP want to ask them questions lor.

[macrosszero]

any one can check with china prefab shelter... how much they can charge for this?

 

https://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Prefab_Shelter.html

 

by my PERSONAL understanding and ESTIMATION of the costing in the above list ... My personal ESTIMATE of actual prefab costs is between 

30mil to 60mil sgd for 200km (100~200usd/m)  not including delivery and installation costs.. 

 

Hence.. i really wish for LTA to show a breakdown costs.  

 

I still think 300mil is too steep.

 

Unless you are PERSONALLY involved in the construction industry or are familiar with Quantity Survey, a quick Google search of Made in China pre-fab structures is meaningless.

 

While you have rightly pointed out your estimates excludes delivery and installation charges you make it sound as though the bulk of the cost is the structure - that's like saying an iPhone is the cost of its raw materials only ($US1.03). And so because its made of some glass, copper and circuit boards, it should not cost more than $xx to sell it to you. It doesn't work like that.

 

If you really do feel that something is amiss, here is what you can do about it. Let the right people handle it - make a report here: https://www.ago.gov.sg/contact-ago/reporting-suspected-financial-irregularities

[Tianmo]

In East Coast Park, ppl also walk in bike path.

 

It’s a common ppl problem

 

 

yah I know lor, its a both side problem. Happens everywhere, so its a common problem. 

 

But there got to be a way to separate them, then will be really be BESTEST!!!.    

[Tianmo]

i am thinking along those path at ecp. cyclist and foot marking.

 

anyway only tccs.

[Tianmo]

I took buses around in Darwin, Australia; Kaoshiung, Taiwan; Copenhagen, Denmark. All bus stops were just a pole only. No shelter.

 

in summer under hot sun and if heavy rain how ah, the ppl there got KNNBCCB the gov or not?      

[Adrianli]

in summer under hot sun and if heavy rain how ah, the ppl there got KNNBCCB the gov or not?

Darwin was good weather.

Kaoshiung, some days were raining, used umbrella or just windbreaker.

Copenhagen was slight drizzle during winter, used umbrella.

[Vratenza]

Why can't we have some out of the box thinking like UK?

 

the horizontally placed strips are meant for pedestrian and the linearly laid ones are for cyclist/PMD. 

 

If cyclist/PMD users insist on riding over the horizontally placed tiles, they get the vibration of their life.

 

[Tianmo]

any one can check with china prefab shelter... how much they can charge for this?

 

https://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Prefab_Shelter.html

 

by my PERSONAL understanding and ESTIMATION of the costing in the above list ... My personal ESTIMATE of actual prefab costs is between 

30mil to 60mil sgd for 200km (100~200usd/m)  not including delivery and installation costs.. 

 

Hence.. i really wish for LTA to show a breakdown costs.  

 

I still think 300mil is too steep.

 

 

If business is done by just looking at a price quoted on the internet, then that explains why so many Singaporean business get into trouble when dealing with PRC factories. 

 

Do you happen to know what is the specification of the prefab shelter you gotten from your google search? 

 

Do you happen to have a copy of the tender document of the "walk2Ride" project with its product specification, testing requirements, delivery requirements, completion requirements and LD requirements? 

 

Do you think that the prefab shelter is the only product involve in the project?

 

Have you google what are other requirements involved in the building of a sheltered walkway?

 

Will there be lighting involved? what are the specification if any? waterproofing for out door use required? number of units? specification of wiring? what grade? waterproofing? 

 

Have you googled the cost of delivery and installation cost? 

 

what about warranty period? 

 

The list can go on.

 

Is the project a "design and build" or is there a separate designer, architect  and main con? 

 

I am not in construction or civil engineering, but basic understanding of running a tender sld not be too far apart. Also it is common sense that such a mega project is more complicated than a simple google price search. 

 

Of course you are free to still think that base on the price you saw on the internet, $300m is not right. Nobody is going to be able to fault you because we too dont have all the details. 

 

But as far as my experience dealing with gov tender, working with factories in China is concern, and having spoken to some friends in the building sector.  I still think that $300m is reasonable.     

Edited September 20, 2018 by Tianmo

[Neutrino]

Why can't we have some out of the box thinking like UK?

 

the horizontally placed strips are meant for pedestrian and the linearly laid ones are for cyclist/PMD. 

 

If cyclist/PMD users insist on riding over the horizontally placed tiles, they get the vibration of their life.

 

 

At least got pedestrian on footpath.

 

No cyclists on cycle path.

 

What a waste of money just to be pc.

 

[Tianmo]

Why can't we have some out of the box thinking like UK?

 

the horizontally placed strips are meant for pedestrian and the linearly laid ones are for cyclist/PMD. 

 

If cyclist/PMD users insist on riding over the horizontally placed tiles, they get the vibration of their life.

 

 

sound like an idea, concept is there!!!     

[kdash]

go get a king brand lah. around $40plus. if get yourself injured the medical cost will be hundred.

i have the conventional safety boots too. provided by contractor, i dont have to pay ✌

[Jman888]

sound like an idea, concept is there!!!     

 

 

i thought already implement of the path with divided line, without the vibrating tiles though.

[Tianmo]

i thought already implement of the path with divided line, without the vibrating tiles though.

 

 

the horizontal tiles is what i meant idea lor. Something like those along NSHW speed regulator...