Reckless Cyclist

[Thedecemberone]

 

You may think that.

I couldn't possibly comment.

 

But another way of looking at things is that all car owners pay for access to roads and are subject to a set of rules and laws.

Cyclists do not pay for access to the road and many of them believe there are no rules or laws that they have to follow.

 

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But TP say cyclists also have to follow the Highway Codes. Many do not follow and often cycle across Pedestrian Crossing or Zebra Crossing without stopping to look out for vehicles as if it's their God given right. And if you don't give way to them, they are give that sort of killer stare. They simply do not know the Highway Code. I think TP should make all cyclist study the Highway Codes.

 

In the early 1960s when I was in primary school, our school organised an excursion to a Safety Park (Not sure what it was actually called) in Paya Lebar sponsored by Shell. We were given pedal cars and were asked to pedal on the circuit that simulated the actual road conditions, with zebra crossings, traffic lights and traffic junctions thrown in. All children get to play their part at the circuit. Some were play the pedestrians, some the motorist (I am one of them). This is good education for the children who were in the excursion.

 

Nowadays, I am not sure if there is any more such excursion and education for school children and whether the Safety Park is still around.

[Watwheels]

But TP say cyclists also have to follow the Highway Codes. Many do not follow and often cycle across Pedestrian Crossing or Zebra Crossing without stopping to look out for vehicles as if it's their God given right. And if you don't give way to them, they are give that sort of killer stare. They simply do not know the Highway Code. I think TP should make all cyclist study the Highway Codes.

 

In the early 1960s when I was in primary school, our school organised an excursion to a Safety Park (Not sure what it was actually called) in Paya Lebar sponsored by Shell. We were given pedal cars and were asked to pedal on the circuit that simulated the actual road conditions, with zebra crossings, traffic lights and traffic junctions thrown in. All children get to play their part at the circuit. Some were play the pedestrians, some the motorist (I am one of them). This is good education for the children who were in the excursion.

 

Nowadays, I am not sure if there is any more such excursion and education for school children and whether the Safety Park is still around.

 

Say only mah. Got enforce or not? Only they know.

Anyway they are too busy over at overhead bridges taking photos. More summon = more performance bonus....perhaps. Only they know.

 

Must be your happy memory that you can still remember what happened back in the 60s.

[1fast1]

But TP say cyclists also have to follow the Highway Codes. Many do not follow and often cycle across Pedestrian Crossing or Zebra Crossing without stopping to look out for vehicles as if it's their God given right.

 

Not according to this ex-Mini-Star (WKS):

 

http://www.mha.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=MTU5MA%3D%3D-FQsQbvrhWsU%3D

 

 

 

Cyclists are not prohibited from riding across pedestrian crossings but must do so in a safe and orderly manner.

 

It's the mixed messages that I detest.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Turboflat4

[Thedecemberone]

 

Say only mah. Got enforce or not? Only they know.

Anyway they are too busy over at overhead bridges taking photos. More summon = more performance bonus....perhaps. Only they know.

 

Must be your happy memory that you can still remember what happened back in the 60s.

Yes, definitely enjoyed my childhood even though my family may be poor at that time. Being a child nowadays is very stressful.

[Mlimhs]

To be fair, the driver also in the wrong as he loses his cool and shouted at them. Should he come out nicely and talk to them, perhaps the cyclist may apologise and make way for him to drive into the car washing area.

 

So both in the wrong, cyclist for blocking the way, driver for losing his cool and shout at them.

 

True enough, the driver may be in the wrong for losing his cool.

 

But like I said, the video was one side of the story. As the driver's video point of view, the whole bunch of cyclists had no respect for other cars to go in for the car wash. Initially the driver have been waiting patiently for them to make way for him but sadly they treated the driver like 'invisible'

[Little_prince]

Well cyclist sometimes are also at a lost... Ride of pavement hit ppl that are walking. Ride on road dangerous for them due to on-coming vehicles. SG not really a place that is cycling friendly.

 

While not all cyclist that ride on the road there're definitely still bad apples among the lot. Majority of them I encounter are uncles & aunties (on & off some young punk or PRC) who seriously think that the roads belong to them... Sway left & right.. ride in the middle of the lane... all this made worse if they're on motorised bicycles. It's really frustrating when you encounter them. Horn at them no use, over-take them scared hit them..

 

cars belong on the road.

 

pedestrian belong on the foot path

 

cyclists belong in a longkang

[Thedecemberone]

 

Not according to this ex-Mini-Star (WKS):

 

http://www.mha.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=MTU5MA%3D%3D-FQsQbvrhWsU%3D

 

I think WKS has never ride a bicycle before. I also wonder if he ever was a pedestrian (???) being chauffeured around. He probably also did not study the highway codes.

[Nzy]

 

Say only mah. Got enforce or not? Only they know.

Anyway they are too busy over at overhead bridges taking photos. More summon = more performance bonus....perhaps. Only they know.

 

Must be your happy memory that you can still remember what happened back in the 60s.

 

Yeah. Seems like TP don't bother to enforce the rules. Still see many drivers and cyclists beat red light and drive recklessly.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Nzy

[havcove]

But TP say cyclists also have to follow the Highway Codes. Many do not follow and often cycle across Pedestrian Crossing or Zebra Crossing without stopping to look out for vehicles as if it's their God given right. And if you don't give way to them, they are give that sort of killer stare. They simply do not know the Highway Code. I think TP should make all cyclist study the Highway Codes.

 

In the early 1960s when I was in primary school, our school organised an excursion to a Safety Park (Not sure what it was actually called) in Paya Lebar sponsored by Shell. We were given pedal cars and were asked to pedal on the circuit that simulated the actual road conditions, with zebra crossings, traffic lights and traffic junctions thrown in. All children get to play their part at the circuit. Some were play the pedestrians, some the motorist (I am one of them). This is good education for the children who were in the excursion.

 

Nowadays, I am not sure if there is any more such excursion and education for school children and whether the Safety Park is still around.

 

yes that would be useful, however, it might not reach the majority of the current users, since the road safety programs are attended by locals who attend school locally in their youth and not by our recent talents who are likely not going to attend any such education or may come in too old to join such excursions..

[Thedecemberone]

 

True enough, the driver may be in the wrong for losing his cool.

 

But like I said, the video was one side of the story. As the driver's video point of view, the whole bunch of cyclists had no respect for other cars to go in for the car wash. Initially the driver have been waiting patiently for them to make way for him but sadly they treated the driver like 'invisible'

Agree to a certain extent. I saw many cyclist riding along Mandai Road and they occupy the entire Lane without regard to motorist. Any motorist that drive a bit close to them would end up on the receiving end of the cyclists' shouting as the driver continue his driving. And unfortunately, I can't help noticing that caucasians are usually the more aggressive ones compared to our local cyclists.

[Thedecemberone]

 

Say only mah. Got enforce or not? Only they know.

Anyway they are too busy over at overhead bridges taking photos. More summon = more performance bonus....perhaps. Only they know.

 

Must be your happy memory that you can still remember what happened back in the 60s.

You know, that's the problem with aging. You remember vividly things that happened many moons ago, but recent events is sometimes quite difficult to recall.

[Super7]

I think WKS has never ride a bicycle before. I also wonder if he ever was a pedestrian (???) being chauffeured around. He probably also did not study the highway codes.

 

Among the so called leaders, wks is not alone on this.

[Super7]

 

cars belong on the road.

 

pedestrian belong on the foot path

 

cyclists belong in a longkang

 

LOL...

 

Dont like that say leh..... cyclists also need space just like pedestrians and drivers. Maybe someone should invent bicycles which can be riden in longkangs... problem solved!!!

 

Jokes aside, for the sake of encouraging more road users go green ie cycling instead of driving wherever possible, its about time LTA includes cycling paths in their new road / upgrade designs, it's always better late than never.

[Super7]

 

You may think that.

I couldn't possibly comment.

 

But another way of looking at things is that all car owners pay for access to roads and are subject to a set of rules and laws.

Cyclists do not pay for access to the road and many of them believe there are no rules or laws that they have to follow.

 

.

 

There are existing rules/laws which really need to be updated to suit current / future needs. Meanwhile the enforcements of the existing ones are seriously lacking!!! While cyclists sometimes dont really behave, but in a way they are also 'victims' of unclear / ineffective rules and lack of enforcements.

 

[Super7]

You know, that's the problem with aging. You remember vividly things that happened many moons ago, but recent events is sometimes quite difficult to recall.

 

LOL, maybe its ok to turn the problem into an advantage ---- practise selective memories to suit the day and allow others to blame it on aging as the cause [thumbsup]

[Super7]

i simply cannot comprehend why those cyclist behaved the way that no people would approve of, especially for many i believe also drive...

 

己所不欲 勿施于人

 

Exactly!!

 

Maybe some of these cyclists tell themselves: 4 wheels tua kee meh? lim peh 2 wheels but can show you who owns the roads..... just like in a group of kids, the small size ones can be the most aggressive, trying to show who the boss is?? (quite stupid, actually)

[Little_prince]

 

There are existing rules/laws which really need to be updated to suit current / future needs. Meanwhile the enforcements of the existing ones are seriously lacking!!! While cyclists sometimes dont really behave, but in a way they are also 'victims' of unclear / ineffective rules and lack of enforcements.

 

 

i guess that is exactly the point.

 

many a cyclist that i've seen on the road think that they are above the law.

 

they ride on the road, yet fail to comply with rules of the road eg. traffic light etc.

 

they ride on the foot path and expect pedestrian to give way to them, or even worse, ride at high speed and causes accidents to the elderly and the young.

[Thedecemberone]

 

LOL...

 

Dont like that say leh..... cyclists also need space just like pedestrians and drivers. Maybe someone should invent bicycles which can be riden in longkangs... problem solved!!!

 

Jokes aside, for the sake of encouraging more road users go green ie cycling instead of driving wherever possible, its about time LTA includes cycling paths in their new road / upgrade designs, it's always better late than never.

 

Actually, cyclist are part of the road like motorist are. They therefore have to follow the traffic rules.

 

I believe it's quite difficult to introduce cycling paths islandwide.

 

I remember last time in 1968 when I got my first bicycle as a present from my mother for doing reasonably well in my PSLE. The bicycle brand is Kris and quite expensive at that time. I was told it costs $110 back then. We have to register the bicycle at ROV Middle Road for a fee of $10. I remember my bicycle no. was 376814 with the numberings in White on Red background. Nowadays bicycles are no longer required to be registered.