Carbon82 Moderator August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 World premiere on 23 August 2018 at Pebble Beach, California. The most intense form of new dynamic roadster performance is embodied by the BMW Z4 M40i. A new, extremely powerful in-line 6-cylinder engine, a lowered sports suspension with electronically controlled dampers, a newly developed front axle, M light alloy wheels with mixed tyres, an M sports brake system and an electronically controlled lock in the rear axle differential create an overall package that sees the BMW M Performance model setting a whole new benchmark for driving pleasure in the roadster segment."The vehicle concept of the new BMW Z4 is geared consistently towards agility and driving dynamics," explains Jos van As, Head of Application Suspension. "The high level of body stiffness and the very rigid suspension attachment provide the perfect basis for a set-up that guarantees the performance qualities of a genuine sports car in terms of steering precision as well as longitudinal and transverse acceleration." The new generation will particularly introduce effective enhancements in terms of agile handling, spontaneity and precision when changing direction and accelerating in dynamic style out of bends – without losing out in the comfort disciplines. Key Specifications (Z40i) Engine: 3.0-litre straight six, twin-turbo, petrol Horsepower: 340bhpTorque: 500Nm Transmission: 8-speed automatic0-100kph: 4.5 sec (est.)Top speed: 250kph (electronically limited) Other engine options: Z20i (195bhp) and Z30i (255bhp) ↡ Advertisement 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommisan 4th Gear August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 The shape of the front headlight looks like the Fiat 124 spider and the rear light looks like the 6 series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptronic Supercharged August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 Angel Eyes are thoroughly screwed up model after model! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 (edited) On 8/6/2018 at 8:25 AM, Steptronic said: Angel Eyes are thoroughly screwed up model after model!Icon adaptive ones are nice but this is .... so disappointing Even older corona led white rings beautiful too Edited August 6, 2018 by Pohhenry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 Have to look at the final design first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator August 7, 2018 Author Share August 7, 2018 For those that are not aware of (should not be the case for motorhead), the new Z4 is co-developed with Toyota (Supra), and the collaboration can be dated back to ~5 years ago, but actual details are pretty scare... OK now, so are we to expect a Toyota-like Z4 or a BMW-like Supra? Well this article do shade a little light, but not a lot indeed. BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra: Evil Twins with Different Personalities Both will be sports cars of their own, though comparisons will inevitably happen Just because Toyota and BMW jointly developed the Supra and Z4 sports cars, that doesn’t mean that both cars will be mirror images of one another. On the contrary, BMW Group Australia CEO Marc Werner told Car Advice that both the design and driving characteristics of the Z4 will be completely different from the Supra. Werner’s comments shouldn’t come as a surprise because the Z4 and the Supra theoretically don’t belong in the same segment, despite sharing a platform. The BMW sports car is expected to cater to customers who prefer premium sports cars whereas the Supra will be catered more to the masses. That’s not to say that one is going to be inferior to the other because, despite the prestige of carrying a Bimmer badge, the Z4 will actually feature less power than the Supra, at least if rumors of the Toyota’s output are proven true. It’s been reported that the Z4 will feature a choice of either four-cylinder or six-cylinder engines with power outputs ranging from 194 horsepower to all the way to north of 300 horsepower for the range-topping Z4 M40i. On the other hand, rumors have swirled that the Supra will have in excess of 400 horsepower at its disposal so evidently, BMW and Toyota are going vastly different paths on how it’s preparing their respective sports cars. The designs and power levels of both cars will be different, so it follows that the resulting driving experience will be different too. Either way, it’s inevitable that we’ll see both the Z4 and Supra get compared to each other on account of their shared history. Not that it’s going to make a difference because, in the end, both cars should have no issues inspiring loyalty from their fans, independent on how the other one is received. Different Driving Experiences Is What It Should Be For The Z4 And The Supra None of this is ground-breaking news though it must still be said considering that there might be wrong perceptions surrounding the abilities of both the BMW Z4 and the Toyota Supra. It’s hard to get rid of that thought considering the backgrounds of both cars. Ultimately though, Marc Werner said it best when asked to describe the nature of the relationship between BMW and Toyota. The BMW sports car is expected to cater to customers who prefer premium sports cars whereas the Supra will be catered more to the masses It’s definitely economies of scale,” he said, when describing the core reason of the BMW-Toyota collaboration. “Product development of each and every car costs you a couple of billion dollars, and the roadster segment is, unfortunately, declining over the last couple of years — not only for us (BMW) but each and every manufacturer. So we decided to join forces with Toyota, as far as the development process is concerned. As far as the design is concerned, it will be absolutely unique. Not only in terms of design, but how they drive and how they handle.” The collaboration between BMW and Toyota was meant to help shave off costs that both automakers would’ve incurred if each of them decided to go at developing their sports cars on their own Werner couldn’t have put it in easier terms for everybody to understand. The collaboration between BMW and Toyota was meant to help shave off costs that both automakers would’ve incurred if each of them decided to go at developing their sports cars on their own. There’s no doubt that BMW and Toyota would be capable of doing that, but not at the cost of development becoming too expensive for their own liking. So they decided to join forces in the development process to help cut costs in the development of the Z4 and the Supra. It’s a smart move on both their parts but again, just because they’re going separate ways in terms of their respective products, it doesn’t mean that one car is going to be better than the other. Consider it as two different sports cars with two different driving experiences to offer. At the end of the day, that’s actually better than both cars offering the same sheep wrapped in different wolves clothing. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 So it is Zupra by Toymw:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastfive1 5th Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Well based on images alone, I'm pretty sure the car is more or less BMW. Toyota hardly has any of it's stuff inside the car. I wonder which part of the car is uniquely Toyota? Hmm....The gearbox is ZF which is the company that has been making most of BMW's gearboxes. The engine is from BMW. Even the interior looks very BMW-ish. That's the way it should stay. None of the crap that Toyota makes. The Supra is a joke. It's gonna be a BMW with a toyota badge. What is the world coming to when BMW allows for toyota to put an ugly badge on a german car. The 86 is probably another joke. The engine inside the 86 is a boxer engine. So this means that Subaru did most of the work and Toyota just stuck its badge on the 86. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 https://g29.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1524622 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator August 12, 2018 Author Share August 12, 2018 Did BMW worked with Fiat (or Mazda) in stead of Toyota? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingerGT 5th Gear August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 Can't dig this. It has this EV feel from the design language. The outgoing model so much nicer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 4:22 AM, Carbon82 said: Did BMW worked with Fiat (or Mazda) in stead of Toyota? Trying hard to get used to a BMW without double ring headlights... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 5:31 AM, DACH said: Trying hard to get used to a BMW without double ring headlights...Still have. But now stacked :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 5:42 AM, Mockngbrd said: Still have. But now stacked :(That’s true...looks like stacked Icon led headlamps:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic August 12, 2018 Share August 12, 2018 On 8/12/2018 at 5:42 AM, Mockngbrd said: Still have. But now stacked :( Stacked ones reminds me of this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator August 16, 2018 Author Share August 16, 2018 New BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra testing together at the Nurburgring. The video focuses more on the Z4, specifically different prototypes of the same roadster. That’s a hint that we could be looking at different versions of the new sports car, including one with round exhaust tips that we believe to be the sDrive30i. There are also shots of a Z4 with bigger-looking exhausts, which we think is the range-topping, six-cylinder M40i, the same version that was the subject of the aforementioned leaked photos of the Z4 sporting no camouflage on its body. For its part, the Toyota Supra also appears in the video, looking no less confusing than ever. The sports car’s overall shape follows what Toyota presented with the FT-1 Concept back in 2014, but there are still some notable changes to be expected when the final production model finally breaks cover. Unfortunately, Toyota has not set a specific timetable for the Supra’s debut. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic August 16, 2018 Share August 16, 2018 (edited) Official pictures are unofficially out https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155439482752687&id=275941102686 Edited August 16, 2018 by Mockngbrd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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