StreetFight3r 6th Gear July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 An interesting insight into the eyes of Expat kids serving their NS. Hard to imagine living in Singapore and yet not made a single local friend. If you have 10 mins of time while drinking kopi in office, it's worth a read. http://ricemedia.co/culture-people-expat-kids-national-service-culture-shock/ ↡ Advertisement 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kxbc Turbocharged July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 If you work in a large company, some of your English educated (esp those who used to study in overseas uni) bosses would also send their kids to int'l schools. It's not just their kids who do not identify with the average/below average Singaporeans. They themselves are in many ways, due to their financial status, also not part of the everyday Singapore. So before the political bashing comments come, do note that this is not just a problem of Singapore's. It exists in all societies. The rich live in their own bubble and the poor in theirs. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:59 AM, Kxbc said: If you work in a large company, some of your English educated (esp those who used to study in overseas uni) bosses would also send their kids to int'l schools. It's not just their kids who do not identify with the average/below average Singaporeans. They themselves are in many ways, due to their financial status, also not part of the everyday Singapore. So before the political bashing comments come, do note that this is not just a problem of Singapore's. It exists in all societies. The rich live in their own bubble and the poor in theirs. every country would have this group of community, the 2 case in the article show the one who born but not living here is more arrogant than the one who lives but not born here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kxbc Turbocharged July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 (edited) On 7/17/2018 at 2:04 AM, Roadrunner2029 said: It is just as much a culture shock as most air level meeting hokkien peng, chinese helicopter meeting jiak kentang. It's one of the benefits of NS, to assimilate our own people who do not play with kids from other social circles. Something we've learnt a bit from the Swiss - they have similar mix of different background people in small population albeit all Europeans. agree but in the earlier years of 70s, 80s and maybe even 90s, the income disparity was prob not as wide (personal feel only). There are the rich folks of course, but there are not as many of them. Most of us come from the other spectrum living in HDBs, play soccer at the void deck etc whether we are air level, psle pri three only, bananas or chinese helicopter and the gap though evident, is probably easier to bridge than what was discussed in the article just because living in the HDB is a big melting pot. I thought Sudar in the article did well, making friends from the other socio-circle. I thought Kim would have done better but then it was not to be. On 7/17/2018 at 2:04 AM, Roadrunner2029 said: edit: deleted multiple posts. Edited July 17, 2018 by Kxbc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 2:45 AM, Roadrunner2029 said: Even now, most people live in HDB estates, it's still the majority of population. There are more PRs and foreigners for sure, compared with 30 years ago. Some of them live in HDB, some of them live in ang moh choo, some of them don't live here but there's no more kampung now. During one ICT some years ago, I first time saw one WO2 tried to speak English without expletives to an AMDK NSF, I was also "culture shocked". Another thing is, more people live behind closed doors today than it was 30 years ago. Whether you lived in HDB or ang moh choo or kampung, Singaporeans used to go out and talk to neighbours more, but not much anymore. its like that , i can barely spot a local , when i go for warm down at a mini park beside my block after my evening running. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillusion Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 I had 1 Japanese guy who had an American accent during bmt. Most of the hokkien peng avoid him like a plague as most of them cant speak or understand english. Was only with us for the bmt but yrs later someone said he committed suicide....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 Don't even talk about ang moh, there's already a divide among people who went through certain schools to JC, then university, vs. those who were in neighbourhood schools then took poly route, vs. ITE to poly. Hardly any mixing. And I'm not quite sure about the expletives thing, why is it a domain of the lower educated? I think it would be more of family upbringing issue more than anything else, then it just becomes a bad habit. Actually some people just take it on as a kind of affectation, but swear and mix expletives in their conversation very unnaturally, somewhat like ang moh trying to use "lah" Have you noticed? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 It's a culture shock for everyone to be honest. Who doesn't live in their own bubble? We just have to learn to accept each other differences and work together. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 Where got divide? We are Singapore We are Singapore We are Singaporeans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 What is this rice media and their agenda ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 Got here oso 1.... immediately @Radx cums to mind ....... ITE????? Got anything lower than that??? On 7/17/2018 at 8:10 AM, Sosaria said: Don't even talk about ang moh, there's already a divide among people who went through certain schools to JC, then university, vs. those who were in neighbourhood schools then took poly route, vs. ITE to poly. Hardly any mixing. And I'm not quite sure about the expletives thing, why is it a domain of the lower educated? I think it would be more of family upbringing issue more than anything else, then it just becomes a bad habit. Actually some people just take it on as a kind of affectation, but swear and mix expletives in their conversation very unnaturally, somewhat like ang moh trying to use "lah" Have you noticed? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhat1975 6th Gear July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:59 AM, Kxbc said: If you work in a large company, some of your English educated (esp those who used to study in overseas uni) bosses would also send their kids to int'l schools. unless the kid has been studying overseas for a substantial period of time before returning to SG, Singaporean are not allowed to send their kids to international school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 11:04 AM, Blueray said: What is this rice media and their agenda ? To remind everyone to step out of the comfort zone to see and feel the real world. Don’t “eat waste rice”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 Every country has the same - elite layer who is not aware of the ground. NS in sg forces them to see the reality - probably a good thing. The scary thing to imagine is that many of these in-a-bubble "elite" are either ruling or going to rule the land.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:59 AM, Kxbc said: If you work in a large company, some of your English educated (esp those who used to study in overseas uni) bosses would also send their kids to int'l schools. It's not just their kids who do not identify with the average/below average Singaporeans. They themselves are in many ways, due to their financial status, also not part of the everyday Singapore. So before the political bashing comments come, do note that this is not just a problem of Singapore's. It exists in all societies. The rich live in their own bubble and the poor in theirs. good post to set the tone of discussion here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 12:24 PM, mersaylee said: To remind everyone to step out of the comfort zone to see and feel the real world. Don’t “eat waste rice”. some of these websites claim to offer an alternative view, but some I find have divisive intent. so I would urge discernment. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 It's the same when one comes to the real working life, seeing the reality of many people's lives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dleodleo Twincharged July 18, 2018 Share July 18, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:47 AM, StreetFight3r said: An interesting insight into the eyes of Expat kids serving their NS. Hard to imagine living in Singapore and yet not made a single local friend. If you have 10 mins of time while drinking kopi in office, it's worth a read. http://ricemedia.co/culture-people-expat-kids-national-service-culture-shock/ Actually a bit exaggerate lah on culture shock . I've know a foreigner PR who went to NS last year (his father an angmo and his mother a Korean), he managed to blend in quite well leh. I was told that he has an option to serve and not to serve. The parents decided to let him serve because they heard that it is better for him to serve if want to stay here long term and easier to find job. I was wondering.... true meh? So many Malaysians also never serve NS, come Singapore to work and get PR after few years. Some even hold managerial positions. First came sure culture shock but after few years should be fine liao. My friend's hubby is an ang mo, he even scolds hokkien bad words and speaks singlish after staying staying here for so many years. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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