2018 Volvo S60 (3rd Gen) & V60 (2nd Gen)

[Alth]

On 3/6/2021 at 1:28 AM, Jtsjv said:

would u consider the XC40? it has a fair bit of practical touches for ladies - removable trash bin, handbag hook, etc.

And it's not as long as the S60. easier to park.

Sorry for the late replied.  

We looked at both XC40 and S60 during the weekend, XC40 is smaller but price is the same. 

Prefer the S60 rear legroom.....spacious 

Wifey is still deciding since she is going to be the one driving........ I opt out to comment so that she wont comment my purchase choice as well 😁

[Calvin8808]

2 hours ago, Alth said:

Sorry for the late replied.  

We looked at both XC40 and S60 during the weekend, XC40 is smaller but price is the same. 

Prefer the S60 rear legroom.....spacious 

Wifey is still deciding since she is going to be the one driving........ I opt out to comment so that she wont comment my purchase choice as well 😁

I suggest you buy the Volvo S60 than the XC40 from a cost and practicality point of view. But of course you and your wife should decide base on your preference.

Let's talk about cost based on the figures on SGCARMART, but you an based on my calculation and replaced with the price Wearnes is offering you.

XC40 T4 R-Design

Selling Price: $179K; ARF: $32,051; Depreciation: $16,300

Basic Cost: $124,010; Premium 44%

Launch Date: 2018

Built In: China

S60 T4 R-Design

Selling Price: $186K; ARF: $42,420; Depreciation: $16,500

Basic Cost: $143,880; Premium 29%

Launch Date: 2019

Built In: USA

As you mentioned it's the same price so once you replace the selling price with what Wearnes offers you, you will find that you are paying less for a bigger and newer car which is made in USA compared to a smaller and older car which is made in China. Also on a side note, look at the margin Wearnes is getting for XC40 compared to S60 and you will find that either the XC40 is overpriced or the S60 is more reasonably priced. Not to forget S60 should give you better fuel consumption.

But end of the day just take my analysis into reference but decide base on you and your wife preference.

 

[Alth]

22 hours ago, Calvin8808 said:

I suggest you buy the Volvo S60 than the XC40 from a cost and practicality point of view. But of course you and your wife should decide base on your preference.

Let's talk about cost based on the figures on SGCARMART, but you an based on my calculation and replaced with the price Wearnes is offering you.

XC40 T4 R-Design

Selling Price: $179K; ARF: $32,051; Depreciation: $16,300

Basic Cost: $124,010; Premium 44%

Launch Date: 2018

Built In: China

S60 T4 R-Design

Selling Price: $186K; ARF: $42,420; Depreciation: $16,500

Basic Cost: $143,880; Premium 29%

Launch Date: 2019

Built In: USA

As you mentioned it's the same price so once you replace the selling price with what Wearnes offers you, you will find that you are paying less for a bigger and newer car which is made in USA compared to a smaller and older car which is made in China. Also on a side note, look at the margin Wearnes is getting for XC40 compared to S60 and you will find that either the XC40 is overpriced or the S60 is more reasonably priced. Not to forget S60 should give you better fuel consumption.

But end of the day just take my analysis into reference but decide base on you and your wife preference.

 

Thanks! We have a friend driving the XC40 and his was made in Belgium and thus we have the impression that it was still made in Belgium. 

 

 

[Calvin8808]

54 minutes ago, Alth said:

Thanks! We have a friend driving the XC40 and his was made in Belgium and thus we have the impression that it was still made in Belgium. 

 

 

You can confirm with the Sales Consultant. And check the tag on the side of the car after you open the door.

[Alth]

22 hours ago, Calvin8808 said:

You can confirm with the Sales Consultant. And check the tag on the side of the car after you open the door.

Thanks, yes it's confirmed but it's not made in China. It's assemble in China 🙄

[Jtsjv]

On 3/12/2021 at 11:17 AM, Calvin8808 said:

You can confirm with the Sales Consultant. And check the tag on the side of the car after you open the door.

New ones cannot see fr the right B pillar anymore. It only shows Made By Volvo.

[Jtsjv]

On 3/12/2021 at 10:21 AM, Alth said:

Thanks! We have a friend driving the XC40 and his was made in Belgium and thus we have the impression that it was still made in Belgium. 

 

 

T4 and T5 AWD are assembled in China.

T5 PHEV is still assembled in Belgium.

[firefly20]

On 3/1/2021 at 9:11 AM, Calvin8808 said:

Hi, any updates?

Is there any differences?

Seems like no diff in mileage between RON 95 and 98 for me. Anyone else has the same result?

[Calvin8808]

12 hours ago, firefly20 said:

Seems like no diff in mileage between RON 95 and 98 for me. Anyone else has the same result?

Previously when I tried no noticeable differences too.

How about performances of the car?

In my opinion no noticeable differences too

[douglassim]

12 hours ago, firefly20 said:

Seems like no diff in mileage between RON 95 and 98 for me. Anyone else has the same result?

For me, between 95 and 98. there's a diff.

98 more fuel efficient and last longer before the next top up. [around 2 weeks]

95 seems to drink [Yum Seng] my petrol. [around 10 days for next top up]

[Volvobrick]

52 minutes ago, douglassim said:

For me, between 95 and 98. there's a diff.

98 more fuel efficient and last longer before the next top up. [around 2 weeks]

95 seems to drink [Yum Seng] my petrol. [around 10 days for next top up]

Jin bo? Maybe 98 more expensive, so use the car less and thus last longer! 

Seriously there can't be a 30% difference. 

[Calvin8808]

On 2/19/2021 at 11:26 AM, Calvin8808 said:

I tried it once or twice didn't really see significant fuel consumption difference.

Also at that price difference is the lower fuel consumption still more economical?

I'm not disputing just wondering out loud.

I mean the price difference between 95 and 98 is about 20%? Is the fuel consumption more than 20% lower?

And therefore the price per km between 95 and 98

10 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

Jin bo? Maybe 98 more expensive, so use the car less and thus last longer! 

Seriously there can't be a 30% difference. 

 

1 hour ago, douglassim said:

For me, between 95 and 98. there's a diff.

98 more fuel efficient and last longer before the next top up. [around 2 weeks]

95 seems to drink [Yum Seng] my petrol. [around 10 days for next top up]

What's the FC (L/100KM) for 95 and for 98? 

Is it at least 20% better?

 

 

[firefly20]

All these talks of RON 95 vs 98.

Anyone gg for the Shell V Power promotion at the price of RON 98 on 19-21 & 26-28 Mar?

[douglassim]

23 hours ago, Calvin8808 said:

 

What's the FC (L/100KM) for 95 and for 98? 

Is it at least 20% better?

 

 

All I can say is, the distance to travel for me is rather fixed throughout the month. [No drastic change]

Just so happen petrol prices sky rocket, so I decided to give 95 a try.

But was shock by the fuel consumption, so decided to go back 98 to monitor again.

Turns out 98 suit my drive style, I reckon. [2 weeks top up]

[douglassim]

14 hours ago, firefly20 said:

All these talks of RON 95 vs 98.

Anyone gg for the Shell V Power promotion at the price of RON 98 on 19-21 & 26-28 Mar?

Although 98 price from Shell is not the cheapest, but no harm to try pump Vpower since petrol price is crazy now.

Especially, if you compare Vpower to 98 pricing, not too huge diff.

As compare 98 to 95 pricing.[Crazy] LOL

[Calvin8808]

On 3/16/2021 at 8:26 PM, firefly20 said:

Seems like no diff in mileage between RON 95 and 98 for me. Anyone else has the same result?

 

On 3/17/2021 at 9:23 AM, Calvin8808 said:

Previously when I tried no noticeable differences too.

How about performances of the car?

In my opinion no noticeable differences too

 

20 minutes ago, douglassim said:

All I can say is, the distance to travel for me is rather fixed throughout the month. [No drastic change]

Just so happen petrol prices sky rocket, so I decided to give 95 a try.

But was shock by the fuel consumption, so decided to go back 98 to monitor again.

Turns out 98 suit my drive style, I reckon. [2 weeks top up]

I think it's best you take a look your screen to look at the actual fuel consumption then using a feel or by days.

I mean of course if you like 98 who are we to stop you ha ha. 

I have this friend of mine who swear by 98 as well previously. He keep saying fuel consumption better till I told him to do his own calculation on the price per km between using 95 and 98 before he realize that the better fuel consumption is not enough to cover the differences in price.

[theory_87]

1 hour ago, douglassim said:

All I can say is, the distance to travel for me is rather fixed throughout the month. [No drastic change]

Just so happen petrol prices sky rocket, so I decided to give 95 a try.

But was shock by the fuel consumption, so decided to go back 98 to monitor again.

Turns out 98 suit my drive style, I reckon. [2 weeks top up]

usually the ecu of the car need a period to adapt after changing RON before they return optimal power and consumption.

[douglassim]

Yo buddies,

 

To own a car in Spore, means we are rich. [Especially, own a continental Car] LOL

So can't complain much when petrol price raises and we need to go top up.

Between 95 and 98, price diff is not exorbitant till need to sell kidney. [Body parts or Loan Money] 

 

I may not spend the time to calculate for 95 or 98 is better in terms of efficiency. [Although I appreciate the thought of suggestion how to calculate]

Besides, higher RON is always encouraged by AD Sales and Car Enthusiast. [I assume]

 

Overall, I say go with whatever petrol you are comfortable with paying. [95 or 98]

Efficient or not, personal preference or not.

 

We will need to scrap car at 10years. LOL

 

Just a penny of my thoughts, I apologise if I may have directly or indirectly hurt anyone with my thoughts. 

 

Cheers.