2018 Volvo S60 (3rd Gen) & V60 (2nd Gen)

[mersaylee]

How come the OMV can be 32k but the AFR is 37?

whats the parf upon scrap at 10 years then?  

[Volvobrick]

17 minutes ago, mersaylee said:

How come the OMV can be 32k but the AFR is 37?

whats the parf upon scrap at 10 years then?  

After 10 years it's 50% x 37K.

ARF is tiered, higher OMV attracts higher %. 

[mersaylee]

30 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

After 10 years it's 50% x 37K.

ARF is tiered, higher OMV attracts higher %. 

So the OMV value won’t be higher than the AFR and the parf is always 50% of the AFR regardless of the OMV? 

[Volvobrick]

OMV

First $20,000.  100%

Next $30,000(i.e. $20,001 to $50,000) - 140%

Above $50,000 - 180%

[Dannnn]

19 hours ago, jammer_sg said:

Yes it is a shame indeed that Cross Traffic Alert, Blind Spot Information, Park Assist Pilot are not included. Any reasonably safe driver should be keeping a good look out in the first place but these are definitely an additional level of safety.

My wife would love the Park Assist Pilot. She has not driven and parked for years so I was hoping to get the complete suite of the IntelliSafe. The S60 would probably be the biggest car she can manage for now.

With the relatively short amount of time we spend commuting and traffic on the road, the drive mode might hardly come into play, merely something fancy. I thought it did quite well doing U turns for its length. 0.2m difference in turning radius, I am sure you can handle it ha ha.

Friends who own Volvos are happy with it generally. Just that AD maintenance beyond warranty is high and lesser options outside compared to other conti. So hopefully it is reliable and not a lemon at the end of the day.

The premium for T5 is quite substantial compared to the T4. They could have sold more T5 if they had not come up with the T4 option. I would have gotten the T5 if there was no T4 ha ha ha. Perhaps of the way they want to position and market S60 vs other conti.

I mentioned  the car prices here crazy because we could have bought more than 1 unit of the same car in many other first world countries, drive till either the car dies or we die instead of just 10 years. If it ticks your boxes, every cent saved will be much appreciated come retirement.

Wah bro, if you can stretch your budget up another 40k to get T5 if T4 is not available, means you really love the volvo S60 ... 

as usual ppl buy car with a budget of price range, 10~20k diff maybe ok, but 40k more is definitely another league. so u buying s60 is not bcos of the price range. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Dannnn

[Lotr]

20 minutes ago, mersaylee said:

So the OMV value won’t be higher than the AFR and the parf is always 50% of the AFR regardless of the OMV? 

Yes PARF is based on ARF.

This is important for VES A1 and A2 cars, cos the VES rebate is deducted from ARF. Hence, PARF will be lower

[douglassim]

On 5/17/2020 at 11:18 AM, Lotr said:

back seats cannot be folded down.  although I seem to read somewhere that there is a hidden switch.

The folded down seats are T6  and T8 variant. [Overseas]

Spore did not bring in folded seats features. Even for the T8 variant, disappointing.

[Lotr]

3 minutes ago, douglassim said:

The folded down seats are T6  and T8 variant. [Overseas]

Spore did not bring in folded seats features. Even for the T8 variant, disappointing.

 Disappointing indeed. How much does the fold down feature add to the omv?

I watch those Taiwan reviews, their S60 are very well specced. T5, AWD, HUD, independent rear aircon at centre console, B&W or HK sound system

[douglassim]

On 5/16/2020 at 1:36 AM, jammer_sg said:

Hi all,

Just joined the Volvo family. Been driving the new S60 T4 for close to 2 months.

Still quite a good deal when we bought it. First car so nothing to trade in for and of course with the in house financing as well at 2.28% (lock down period 2 years).

Been enjoying the new ride. Hopefully it will serve us well given the crazy prices we have to pay for it. In terms of fuel consumption, not too bad at 8L/100Km (12.5 vs 13.7Km/L as advertised). Surprised to learn that douglassim’s T5 model is doing 15L/100Km.

I understand there are 2 Volvo clubs in SG. Just wonder any of them are worth joining to share information about our cars.

Well, i was on comfort drive when I 1st got the car, some how realize FC not too good.

I was curious on other mode drives. [Eco] then i saw the FC slowly go up till 15.1L/100km as of now. Top up of fuel was also like 2weeks/full tank.

Travelling was around 30-40km per day.

[douglassim]

3 minutes ago, Lotr said:

 Disappointing indeed. How much does the fold down feature add to the omv?

I watch those Taiwan reviews, their S60 are very well specced. T5, AWD, HUD, independent rear aircon at centre console, B&W or HK sound system

Well, i agree with you. Overseas S60 are very well specs.

Not too sure, Volvo in Spore do not have confidence for the sales? so the specs are not too fantastic/attractive. not like other brands, will get a better specs just to push the sales.

[douglassim]

23 hours ago, firefly20 said:

Based on the brochure, what’s missing from IntelliSafe are blind spot monitoring, RCTA, and rear collision warning with braking at standstill - the last feature being auto braking if the car senses that something is going to hit it from behind when it’s stationary. 

i can attest to the last feature, seat belts suddenly tighten and some warning in dashborad then realize a motorcycle came close at a speed.

[jammer_sg]

5 hours ago, Dannnn said:

Wah bro, if you can stretch your budget up another 40k to get T5 if T4 is not available, means you really love the volvo S60 ... 

as usual ppl buy car with a budget of price range, 10~20k diff maybe ok, but 40k more is definitely another league. so u buying s60 is not bcos of the price range. 

No lah. All I knew it was a pretty recent launch. I was happy getting the Avente, Cerato or Altis to fulfil our point A to B commute so long as it is safe and efficient. My co-driver did not fancy Korean (no disrespect or offence) so I told her we would go test drive Altis. She asked how about Volvo. Ok lor Toyota, Volvo, Merc then BMW, all around Leng Kee just nice.

The T4’s offer was appealing. It was less painful on our wallets verse the 3 Series, C Class or for that matter a S60 T5 (the 3 models I shortlisted). So the 2nd stop was our last stop. The sucker punch was when she said to me, “old man, how many more years have you got to drive something that still goes vroom vroom”. Ha ha

[jammer_sg]

4 hours ago, douglassim said:

Well, i was on comfort drive when I 1st got the car, some how realize FC not too good.

I was curious on other mode drives. [Eco] then i saw the FC slowly go up till 15.1L/100km as of now. Top up of fuel was also like 2weeks/full tank.

Travelling was around 30-40km per day.

Actually from my experience using Eco Drive, my FC also crept up (the smaller the number for L/100Km the more efficient). According to the manual, it changes the gearshift points, engine management and response from the accelerator pedal.

I noticed I had to apply more accelerator to move off from stop (my usual leisure pace) and even to maintain speed for up slopes on expressways. It went up as high as 9L/100Km and since then I stopped using it. I am nursing it about 7.9 (8.0 when my wife drives). But I must say my commute (maybe 50Km per working day) is 80% expressway 20% normal road so that makes a lot of difference too.

[jammer_sg]

4 hours ago, Lotr said:

 Disappointing indeed. How much does the fold down feature add to the omv?

I watch those Taiwan reviews, their S60 are very well specced. T5, AWD, HUD, independent rear aircon at centre console, B&W or HK sound system

That is why a true S60 is the T5. I think they catered the T4 to our cost sensitive market, hoping the downgraded spec will still entice buyers.

[douglassim]

44 minutes ago, jammer_sg said:

Actually from my experience using Eco Drive, my FC also crept up (the smaller the number for L/100Km the more efficient). According to the manual, it changes the gearshift points, engine management and response from the accelerator pedal.

I noticed I had to apply more accelerator to move off from stop (my usual leisure pace) and even to maintain speed for up slopes on expressways. It went up as high as 9L/100Km and since then I stopped using it. I am nursing it about 7.9 (8.0 when my wife drives). But I must say my commute (maybe 50Km per working day) is 80% expressway 20% normal road so that makes a lot of difference too.

ooh, so my FC understanding is wrong. i thought the higher the better? not the other way around. LOL

 

Definitely, need to monitor. what drive mode made it go up and up. Although sometimes i like to Vroom Vroom.

Edited May 18, 2020 by douglassim

[douglassim]

37 minutes ago, jammer_sg said:

That is why a true S60 is the T5. I think they catered the T4 to our cost sensitive market, hoping the downgraded spec will still entice buyers.

I believe, in Spore context. people always go for cheap and good. LMAO

[Lotr]

2 hours ago, jammer_sg said:

That is why a true S60 is the T5. I think they catered the T4 to our cost sensitive market, hoping the downgraded spec will still entice buyers.

Downgraded spec won't attract buyers, downgraded price will. The sales person told me many are putting down the deposit after the price drop

[firefly20]

8 hours ago, Lotr said:

Yes PARF is based on ARF.

This is important for VES A1 and A2 cars, cos the VES rebate is deducted from ARF. Hence, PARF will be lower

So the rebates for VES are not really full rebates. Learned something new today. Thanks.