Singapore to Fail without PAP?

[Angcheek]

Good Ministers can still join the new team .

 

 

[LPPL]

What will happen? Maybe u can look at taiwan

I know Taiwanese are good at throwing corrupt leaders in prison n they exercise rule of law. Maybe Singaporeans should have the mindset of Taiwanese people and not continue to be brainwashed to become humji.

[Enye]

run the country like a business?

 

boleh if not a monopoly

 

 

[Aventador]

I know Taiwanese are good at throwing corrupt leaders in prison n they exercise rule of law. Maybe Singaporeans should have the mindset of Taiwanese people and not continue to be brainwashed to become humji.

Lets stick to talking about effects on Singapore in this thread. Thanks alot Edited May 26, 2018 by Aventador

[mersaylee]

Hmmm...Where should I start...?

 

...maybe the trains would run flawlessly again?

 

Singapore langs be like - we want change! we want trains!!!

 

Actually, we are veri easy to please one...

[LPPL]

run the country like a business?

 

boleh if not a monopoly

 

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You heard of Sparkletots? They are under PAP. Do you find it surprising that they get to set up their businesses in all the best heartland locations? Where is their so-called tender process?

Lets stick to talking about effects on Singapore in this thread. Thanks alot

I was replying to thaiyo...

[BanCoe]

Once u mention PAP in MCF ,all hell will break loose..

[Ingenius]

In South korea, the past 4 presidents, 3 were jailed, 1 committed suicide, all for corruption. Next look over to Malaysia, Japan. Indonesia, Philippines, taiwan.. just an observation. I spoken to several foreign workers in singapore, blur and white collar workers, they all tell me , we don't know how fortunate we are. They said if only they government is half as good as ours they wouldn't leave their country to look for jobs liao.

 

Back to the topic, singapore will not fail if the opposition takes over the governance, as long as they attract enough good candidates, which is always attainable.

Edited May 26, 2018 by Ingenius

[BanCoe]

Singapore won't fail without the pap for one simple reason, we have more than enough capable potential non-pap leaders to be ministers. Just look at koh poh koon, ng chee meng, ong ye kung, lawrence wong etc, one term mp can become ministers so you tell me is it really hard for other talented professionals with a heart to serve the nation to become minister. There are many in the opposition who graduated from Cambridge, Oxford n other ivy league unis, so it is inconceivable to think that without PAP, our country can't function. Just ask yourselves this question, if hypothetically all the ministers were to sit on one plane it disappears in Bermuda triangle, would the hospitals, businesses in the CBD, train services etc. stop operating?

Basically the so called ‘soft ware System or platforms ‘ of each ministryis hard wired & cannot be so easily altered so any new person helming a certain ministry has to work within that framework only; So technically the whole island state can run for a while even without any team, temporarily.

Edited May 26, 2018 by BanCoe

[Ender]

Unlikely to happen, coz although alot not happy with the gahment, but we have not been pushed far enough. Most of us don't want to disturb our comfort zone. For those countries, most people are pushed til no more comfort zone.

[BanCoe]

Unlikely to happen, coz although alot not happy with the gahment, but we have not been pushed far enough. Most of us don't want to disturb our comfort zone. For those countries, most people are pushed til no more comfort zone.

Or rather they have lost everything and nothing to loose now by creating or crafting a way to get back as lots of things are not done the Legit way as the system is like that and every one just follows it ..... example in some countries there is no proper way of even a Title Deed

[inlinesix]

I think everything will stopped.

 

In Sg, PAP is THE governing machinery no diff from CCP.

[Thaiyotakamli]

Tell me about Taiwan, what about?

Fresh graduates are seeking jobs in china due to better opportunities. Their pay had been stagnant for the past 10 yrs

[Atonchia]

I think everything will stopped.

 

In Sg, PAP is THE governing machinery no diff from CCP.

The worst nightmare of MCF.

All traffic lights may stop to function. All cars grind to a halt.

 

 

All street lights cannot function. zero power, all homes no aircon, no fan, allow frozen food spoilt, all PMD cannot be charged, all communication stopped because HP no power......

 

 

I cannot continue to imagine the day SG fail....in comparison NK will be parsdise.

[Thaiyotakamli]

I know Taiwanese are good at throwing corrupt leaders in prison n they exercise rule of law. Maybe Singaporeans should have the mindset of Taiwanese people and not continue to be brainwashed to become humji.

Err i beg to differ. Their political system is a mess whereby opposition bring down the ruling party so hard, that once opposition party took over they abolish all plan and ongoing projects under prev ruling party.

 

Look at their parliament, its the world laughing stock whereby they rather exchanged fist than idea. If u often watch their parliament meeting, the MPs are scolding one another.

 

Look at ex president Ma now DPP trying to land him on jail and what happen to chen shui bian? Now chen coming out of jail although he super corrupted.

 

 

Its not called humji when u dont vote opposition rather using ur logic and rational thinking what to do with ur vote

[Atonchia]

Ships will sink, aeroplanes just fall from the sky....

[Atonchia]

Doesn't matter what will be the party.

What matter most are capable leaders who work with ear....

 

A listening ear that feels the pulse on the ground.

 

Don't want to say work with heart because governing people if work by heart also sure die, cannot work by emotion and feeling.

[Ravinged]

Lets stick to talking about effects on Singapore in this thread. Thanks alot

 

I think what he was trying to point out was that - what is happening to Taiwan now can happen to Singapore - in economical sense.

 

I frequently discussed this with my Taiwanese counterparts where many of them lamented that Taiwan is losing its attractiveness to global companies. This is, majorly, due to China's move to squeeze Taiwan on all sides. What were the China's investment into Taiwan's "friends" about? This is precisely it. Think China's investment in Malaysia and Thailand.

 

 

UPDATE: Just as I finished posting this, Taiwan lost another two friends this month. The most recent one, just yesterday.

 

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3440023

 

When we transpose Taiwan's situation into Singapore, this can jolly well happen to us too. Even if it's not due to China, other policy changes in Singapore can potentially wreak havoc on Singapore's attractiveness to global companies operating here. Many of them, taking advantage of Singapore's favorable tax structure, English-speaking work force, less tendency for a protectionist environment (unlike in US, China or Australia) and many more.

 

Once Singapore loses our attractiveness, it will spell the deterioration of our economy. And, some giant nations are actively working to demean Singapore and our working structure. It's a fact that a resource-limited island nation like ours need friends. Can our opposition build an effective network of friendship as our incumbent had? Do they have that sort of global experience to undertake such a massive change? It is debatable I am sure.

 

Singapore still will not fail, that, I am sure. Just a matter of whether can Singaporeans live through that sort of hardship necessary to see a Singapore without PAP. If Singaporeans want to see a change without losing today's comfort, all the more we need an opposition which is as good as PAP or even better, nothing less.

 

You can't have both cakes and eat them all.

 

Edited May 26, 2018 by Ravinged