teomingern 6th Gear September 2, 2019 Share September 2, 2019 13 hours ago, Thecarboy302 said: Was at Kia Alexandra showroom back in June and I saw the display EX model having the ESC off button. Still no ESC for EX? Or was that showroom unit an anomaly? If the button is there then it means ESC is present and on all the time... the off switch is for you to turn it off when you wish to... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear September 2, 2019 Share September 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Will4081 said: It depends how you drive... I did not have ESC on my previous cars and never really needed it. My SX has ESC but I do not think it came into use so far It's when you need it that it's useful... and you never know when you may be caught in a situation where it helps... so always better to have it than not have it... and why not if pricing is good and includes it? Like all trims of the Hyundai Avante... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 (edited) Kia K3 EX - Jan 2017 - COE $50,000 - was selling at $89,000 https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/pricelist/18/2017-01-16.pdf The Kia Cerato EX is selling at $82,000 now, with COE at $32,000 COE is $18,000 lower but the car is selling at just $7,000 lower. No change in OMV. You do your sums - there is room for the Cerato's price to be reduced by another $6,000, to $76,000 which is the selling price of its identical twin, the Hyundai Avante S, which comes with 6 air bags against the Cerato's 2 air bags. Edited September 3, 2019 by Vinceng Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrytales 4th Gear September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, han123 said: Thanks guys for the response, I have a important thing to ask. Is driving without traction control any different than per normal, because I think it will be beneficial in Sg as it rains frequent. when i went for a test drive and asked the SE about traction control. he said "don't worry small issue, probably when you try to do turns at higher speeds, you might skid or lose control or feel some oversteer/understeer". don't have to guess what was the outcome. its a joke seriously...80+k for a kimchi car in SG with only 2 airbags and no traction control, wait till you encounter ponding (which is pretty common in sg). no doubt cerato looks way better than the avante but personally i just cant bring myself to pay more for a car with lesser safety features and crappy sales tactics from C&C. if you can see beyond that, cerato is still a good buy. Edited September 3, 2019 by ferrytales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, ferrytales said: when i went for a test drive and asked the SE about traction control. he said "don't worry small issue, probably when you try to do turns at higher speeds, you might skid or lose control or feel some oversteer/understeer". don't have to guess what was the outcome. its a joke seriously...80+k for a kimchi car in SG with only 2 airbags and no traction control, wait till you encounter ponding (which is pretty common in sg). no doubt cerato looks way better than the avante but personally i just cant bring myself to pay more for a car with lesser safety features and crappy sales tactics from C&C. if you can see beyond that, cerato is still a good buy. Get the high spec of cerato if want traction control lo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefarn 5th Gear September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, ferrytales said: when i went for a test drive and asked the SE about traction control. he said "don't worry small issue, probably when you try to do turns at higher speeds, you might skid or lose control or feel some oversteer/understeer". don't have to guess what was the outcome. its a joke seriously...80+k for a kimchi car in SG with only 2 airbags and no traction control, wait till you encounter ponding (which is pretty common in sg). no doubt cerato looks way better than the avante but personally i just cant bring myself to pay more for a car with lesser safety features and crappy sales tactics from C&C. if you can see beyond that, cerato is still a good buy. There is always the GT Line to get if you want a fully loaded Cerato. Well not that fully loaded for things such as blind spot detection, lane departure warning, radar cruise control, rear backup assist, 360deg cam are still deleted from our local version But the point is, do not KPKB that the EX model didnt have this and that. The EX is for people who have limited funds and for those who don't know what the extra safety items are for. And for people who thinks cars are just 4 wheels with steering wheel and pedals. Go buy the Mazda 3 Astina if you want everything including the kitchen sink. Although be prep to be outdrag by just about everyone on the road when the light turns green. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Vinceng said: Kia K3 EX - Jan 2017 - COE $50,000 - was selling at $89,000 https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/pricelist/18/2017-01-16.pdf The Kia Cerato EX is selling at $82,000 now, with COE at $32,000 COE is $18,000 lower but the car is selling at just $7,000 lower. No change in OMV. You do your sums - there is room for the Cerato's price to be reduced by another $6,000, to $76,000 which is the selling price of its identical twin, the Hyundai Avante S, which comes with 6 air bags against the Cerato's 2 air bags. The profits cnc is making is insane. New car prices never drop much at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will4081 2nd Gear September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 6:39 PM, han123 said: Hi Cerato Owners, I am contemplating to change my car to a KIA Cerato. Currently driving a qashqai 1.2. I have a few questions to ask: 1.How is the reliability of the car as compared? 2.Are there any cons for the Cerato after driving for awhile? 3. Average Fuel consumption? 4.Accerlerstion/pick up difficulties? Best is to try the car by yourself. Acceleration is similar in factory settings ; these cars are not fast. The main advantage of the qashqai is that you can tune up the turbo a bit. for the rest, the Cerato is a very good car. It is comfortable, large space for passengers, large boot, pretty good NVH levels, and with lots of kit if you go for the top range. I’ve had the car for 6 months, no issue so far. Road handling is pretty good and the chassis limits are well beyond the Cat A engine and what you probably need in SG. If you are looking for a sedan at that price that’s one of the best options on the market, although most forumers prefer the Avante. The Avante is a bit cheaper but the Cerato is better looking IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefarn 5th Gear September 3, 2019 Share September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Will4081 said: the rest, the Cerato is a very good car. It is comfortable, large space for passengers, large boot, pretty good NVH levels, and with lots of kit if you go for the top range. I’ve had the car for 6 months, no issue so far. Road handling is pretty good and the chassis limits are well beyond the Cat A engine and what you probably need in SG. If you are looking for a sedan at that price that’s one of the best options on the market, although most forumers prefer the Avante. The Avante is a bit cheaper but the Cerato is better looking IMO Rem bro, there is a REAL Cerato GT 201hp in many countries where it is sold... See here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecarboy302 3rd Gear September 3, 2019 Author Share September 3, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, teomingern said: If the button is there then it means ESC is present and on all the time... the off switch is for you to turn it off when you wish to... Yup I get that. I understand when Cerato first launched last year, there is no ESC at all for L and EX. But I came across an ESC off button on a Cerato EX display model in June at the Alexandra showroom so I was wondering if they have added ESC standard to EX model or is it just that particular display unit having ESC for some reason. Didn't manage to double check with any SE then. Edited September 3, 2019 by Thecarboy302 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orge Clutched September 5, 2019 Share September 5, 2019 Hi All, Just to check if anyone change out the original speakers. I would like to keep the original head unit. But the original speakers is really bad. Just to check on any recommendation on type of speakers to change and any shop to recommend. Not willing to spend a bomb. Maybe around the range of $400. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsl118 6th Gear September 5, 2019 Share September 5, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 4:50 PM, thebutcher said: AIG's quote and coverage is nonsense. DA has more value-for-money Value for money you paid, or value for money you were able to successfully claim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceng Turbocharged September 9, 2019 Share September 9, 2019 4,000 cars submerged in the seabed - Hope this does not cause further delays in shipment to Singapore, as the Kia factory will now need to double up on production. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/hyundai-glovis-car-carrier-capsize-missing-us-georgia-11886304?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR1IXVCvgwCVk0BDz62cwY1IilMGuUsXSny8DiUpEIar3OcTFQ6Cy-FMnfc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 10:33 AM, Cheefarn said: There is always the GT Line to get if you want a fully loaded Cerato. Well not that fully loaded for things such as blind spot detection, lane departure warning, radar cruise control, rear backup assist, 360deg cam are still deleted from our local version But the point is, do not KPKB that the EX model didnt have this and that. The EX is for people who have limited funds and for those who don't know what the extra safety items are for. And for people who thinks cars are just 4 wheels with steering wheel and pedals. Go buy the Mazda 3 Astina if you want everything including the kitchen sink. Although be prep to be outdrag by just about everyone on the road when the light turns green. Or choose a different make with better value... we can vote with our wallets... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 12:29 PM, Vinceng said: 4,000 cars submerged in the seabed - Hope this does not cause further delays in shipment to Singapore, as the Kia factory will now need to double up on production. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/hyundai-glovis-car-carrier-capsize-missing-us-georgia-11886304?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR1IXVCvgwCVk0BDz62cwY1IilMGuUsXSny8DiUpEIar3OcTFQ6Cy-FMnfc Oh my... how does such a large vessel capsize? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 On 9/3/2019 at 5:58 PM, Thecarboy302 said: Yup I get that. I understand when Cerato first launched last year, there is no ESC at all for L and EX. But I came across an ESC off button on a Cerato EX display model in June at the Alexandra showroom so I was wondering if they have added ESC standard to EX model or is it just that particular display unit having ESC for some reason. Didn't manage to double check with any SE then. That would be really quite unprofessional if it was just the display car that had it but the cars sold didn't carry that function... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prataboy 3rd Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, teomingern said: Oh my... how does such a large vessel capsize? Maybe the drivers got lazy and parked the cars all at the top decks? 🤨 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojamoja Neutral Newbie September 20, 2019 Share September 20, 2019 Guys, anyone of your C&c exe gave you boot lip spoiler as free gift? You guys know where to respray the boot lip to the body colour? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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