Consolidated Info on MRT/LRT Maintenance & Breakdown Part II

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 12:39 PM, Watwheels said:

How come no bus operator run express buses from big towns like Yishun or Tampines. Direct bus services from big towns to CBD areas in the morning and dan back during the evening peak hour? Run much fewer stops and cut down on traveling time.

 

 

Actually there is and they introduced many of these express routes in the recent years. 

 

https://landtransportguru.net/bus/bus-services/premium/

 

https://landtransportguru.net/fast-forward-services/

 

https://landtransportguru.net/express-bus-services/

[Watwheels]

  On 7/26/2018 at 12:44 PM, DACH said:

Actually there is and they introduced many of these express routes in the recent years. 

 

https://landtransportguru.net/bus/bus-services/premium/

 

https://landtransportguru.net/fast-forward-services/

 

https://landtransportguru.net/express-bus-services/

 

They should run more of this service. I think what they are afraid of is that such service will affect taxi drivers. I believe this is what they are worried about. Comprains from taxi companies. Which ironically run by the same company that run bus and train service.

See the conflict there?

 

Ppl will be very confused when the govt wants more ppl to take trains but LTA tells ppl to take alternative transport during peak hours or travel during non peak hours. Ppl not just get confused but also get very angry. It's like the govt cannot make up its mind.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Watwheels

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 12:57 PM, Watwheels said:

They should run more of this service. I think what they are afraid of is that such service will affect taxi drivers. I believe this is what they are worried about. Comprains from taxi companies. Which ironically run by the same company that run bus and train service.

See the conflict there?

 

Provided that they have enough drivers to drive these services.

 

Private bus companies don't make a lot of money running these services and they don't have a double decker fleet.

Public bus operators also have to ensure that their regular bus services are running at higher frequencies with their pool of drivers and not affected by resources running these services.

[Watwheels]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:07 PM, DACH said:

Provided that they have enough drivers to drive these services.

 

Private bus companies don't make a lot of money running these services and they don't have a double decker fleet.

Public bus operators also have to ensure that their regular bus services are running at higher frequencies with their pool of drivers and not affected by resources running these services.

 

Look at smrt for eg. They run trains/bus/taxi service. Which ever service they want to focus more on it will more or less affect the other two services. It becomes more of a dilemma on how they should operate. Obviously their priority is train service hence bus and taxi service will have to "suffer". At some point their taxi service is losing money for quite a long period of time. Precisely is becos of this dilemma that they have.

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:16 PM, Watwheels said:

Look at smrt for eg. They run trains/bus/taxi service. Which ever service they want to focus more on it will more or less affect the other two services. It becomes more of a dilemma on how they should operate. Obviously their priority is train service hence bus and taxi service will have to "suffer". At some point their taxi service is losing money for quite a long period of time. Precisely is becos of this dilemma that they have.

 

SMRT is a lost cause.

 

Bus and taxi operations are already bleeding year after year, yet still don't want to give up and ask for more fare increases.

[Watwheels]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:18 PM, DACH said:

SMRT is a lost cause.

 

Bus and taxi operations are already bleeding year after year, yet still don't want to give up and ask for more fare increases.

 

I seriously do not know what the govt and LTA are doing. Part of the transport woes we have is how the transport companies operate. There is too much conflict of interest. There is also the lack of outside competition. They keep harping on the 50s bus riot becos of the rivalry between private bus companies. This is like half a century ago.

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:25 PM, Watwheels said:

I seriously do not know what the govt and LTA are doing. Part of the transport woes we have is how the transport companies operate. There is too much conflict of interest. There is also the lack of outside competition. They keep harping on the 50s bus riot becos of the rivalry between private bus companies. This is like half a century ago.

 

You should know who owned the public transport companies here by now.

Why let others eat into their profits, especially the market is already so small here?

Edited July 26, 2018 by DACH

[inlinesix]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:18 PM, DACH said:

SMRT is a lost cause.

 

Bus and taxi operations are already bleeding year after year, yet still don't want to give up and ask for more fare increases.

 

Are you sure bus and taxi is bleeding year after year?

 

Don't you know that fare is determined by PTC using fare formula?

[inlinesix]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:25 PM, Watwheels said:

I seriously do not know what the govt and LTA are doing. Part of the transport woes we have is how the transport companies operate. There is too much conflict of interest. There is also the lack of outside competition. They keep harping on the 50s bus riot becos of the rivalry between private bus companies. This is like half a century ago.

 

You need to get yourself updated.

 

LTA has taken back all route planning from both SBST and SMRT.  That's why we have Bus Contracting Model.

[inlinesix]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:33 PM, DACH said:

You should know who owned the public transport companies here by now.

Why let others eat into their profits, especially the market is already so small here?

 

I thought there are 2 foreign operator here.

[13177]

Another stuupid idea from LTA, the most stuupid suggestion i hear is asking people to avoid most crowded travel times and train cars, taking alternative transport and to travel off-peak times?!    Those who are going to school and working, how to avoid?

 

Many area now only have train for people to take, and buses does not run parallel as train, also no direct buses or many bus services. Think LTA asking people to change many buses to get to their destination as alternative?

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:33 PM, Davidtch said:

Are you sure bus and taxi is bleeding year after year?

 

Don't you know that fare is determined by PTC using fare formula?

 

Their bus and taxi business has always been losing money, since after years it took over TIBS.

It's their retail, rail and advertising that is making money.

 

Before this new fare formula was derived, SMRT was mostly the first to ask for fare increases, even for their mediocre services. 

[13177]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:36 PM, Davidtch said:

I thought there are 2 foreign operator here.

But notice these 2 foreign operator dont get to run many bus services here la, majority bus services still run by SBS transit. 

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:35 PM, Davidtch said:

You need to get yourself updated.

 

LTA has taken back all route planning from both SBST and SMRT.  That's why we have Bus Contracting Model.

Bus Contracting Model? I dont know how effective and good does this model benefit all the bus services here? I think only benefit certain bus services only?

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:36 PM, Davidtch said:

I thought there are 2 foreign operator here.

 

Their market share aren't really big.

They are just supporting the current incumbent with the expanding bus network. 

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:42 PM, 13177 said:

But notice these 2 foreign operator dont get to run many bus services here la, majority bus services still run by SBS transit. 

Bus Contracting Model? I dont know how effective and good does this model benefit all the bus services here? I think only benefit certain bus services only?

 

Many services have benefited. Probably a handful needs more improvement.

You really need to take more buses. 

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:36 PM, 13177 said:

Another stuupid idea from LTA, the most stuupid suggestion i hear is asking people to avoid most crowded travel times and train cars, taking alternative transport and to travel off-peak times?!    Those who are going to school and working, how to avoid?

 

Many area now only have train for people to take, and buses does not run parallel as train, also no direct buses or many bus services. Think LTA asking people to change many buses to get to their destination as alternative?

 

Maybe they should ask people to work and study from home instead.

 

This is already a sign that they cannot cope with a bigger population, yet still want to be blinded by their greed. 

[13177]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:40 PM, DACH said:

Their bus and taxi business has always been losing money, since after years it took over TIBS.

It's their retail, rail and advertising that is making money.

 

Before this new fare formula was derived, SMRT was mostly the first to ask for fare increases, even for their mediocre services. 

Maybe SMRT is not running many bus services and taxi here? As majority bus services here still run by SBS transit, and taxi run by comfort delgo?! You look at the recent all the bus contracting bus package awarded to mostly SBS transit.

[inlinesix]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:40 PM, DACH said:

Their bus and taxi business has always been losing money, since after years it took over TIBS.

It's their retail, rail and advertising that is making money.

 

Before this new fare formula was derived, SMRT was mostly the first to ask for fare increases, even for their mediocre services. 

 

How can taxi business be losing $$$$?

[DACH]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:47 PM, 13177 said:

Maybe SMRT is not running many bus services and taxi here? As majority bus services here still run by SBS transit, and taxi run by comfort delgo?! You look at the recent all the bus contracting bus package awarded to mostly SBS transit.

 

Because SMRT really cmi.

Their multi-modal operations fail terribly till the trains are flooded, crashed in MRT station and kill their own staff.

[inlinesix]

  On 7/26/2018 at 1:42 PM, 13177 said:

But notice these 2 foreign operator dont get to run many bus services here la, majority bus services still run by SBS transit. 

Bus Contracting Model? I dont know how effective and good does this model benefit all the bus services here? I think only benefit certain bus services only?

 

Both foreign operators only get 2 package.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_contracting_model_of_Singapore

 

All bus services had been switched to this model.