2016 2nd Generation Honda Freed

[Anderss]

  On 1/27/2019 at 1:49 AM, Tomojiro said:

Wow ! Toyota company must be a charity company. Sorry, I didn't know that after a brand new Toyota car warranty expire after the warranty period by the PI (car is about 5 years old and above and the Pi already closed down) the hybrid battery is still under warranty. Hmm... at least now I know, Thanks. Anyway, if you are those that can afford to throw that extra $ by all means buy what u wants (2.0L Hybrid or bigger) but people like us the normal working class are really concerned about repair cost and if possible I don't mind taking the train or bus as what you suggested (can save me a lot of $) but I need a transport on my daily work use as required by my employer as they don't provide transport for my job but they pay the car allowances for your car every month.

You were saying previously u own a petrol car and the repair are not exactly cheap either. Well, that depends whether you had been cut throat by the repair shop or you are brought a used car (which many parts need to change and repair after been used by those previous owners for those years)

Is not charity is they are confident of their product lifespan. Is giving long warranty considered charity? Now this is something new. No idea how u get such mentality.

 

Cut throat? No. U r saying like u could get it for free. I am not coming from there either. I am just speaking generally.

 

 

Anyway does the petrol freed comes with Sensing?

Edited January 27, 2019 by Anderss

[Tomojiro]

  On 1/27/2019 at 12:57 AM, Anderss said:

Replace battery need to pay? I thought Toyota is famous for 10y hybrid battery warranty.

 

Car repairs and etc are part ans parcel of owning a vehicle. If you are concerned about repair cost, i will suggest taking the train. Previously i own a petrol car as well, the repairs are not exactly cheap either.

 

U can always choose not to repair the battery if cost is a concern. The car will still move with or without the hybrid batt

Quote: "U can always choose not to repair the battery if cost is a concern. The car will still move with or w/o the hybrid batt"

Question: Then for those normal working class people (repair cost concerned people) what is the point of getting a Hybrid car at the first place. Buying a brand new Hybrid car is to save on $ the petrol and as to replace the batt is a concern in the years to come and to drive w/o the hybrid batt is as good as driving a normal petrol car. Is driving a Hybrid car really save on the gas especially at expressways at high speed. 

How much can u save on the gas on a hybrid and how much extra will need to spend on the repairs ? 

  On 1/27/2019 at 1:55 AM, Anderss said:

Is not charity is they are confident of their product lifespan. Is giving long warranty considered charity? Now this is something new. No idea how u get such mentality.

 

Cut throat? No. U r saying like u could get it for free. I am not coming from there either. I am just speaking generally.

 

 

Anyway does the petrol freed comes with Sensing?

Do you really need the sensing ? 

Why not, Petrol Freed do comes with sensing models. Go check with the PI's. I think you are still living in the stone age.

For your information, one of my friend just brought the petrol Freed with Sensing.  

[Anderss]

  On 1/27/2019 at 2:08 AM, Tomojiro said:

Quote: "U can always choose not to repair the battery if cost is a concern. The car will still move with or w/o the hybrid batt"

Question: Then for those normal working class people (repair cost concerned people) what is the point of getting a Hybrid car at the first place. Buying a brand new Hybrid car is to save on $ the petrol and as to replace the batt is a concern in the years to come and to drive w/o the hybrid batt is as good as driving a normal petrol car. Is driving a Hybrid car really save on the gas especially at expressways at high speed. 

How much can u save on the gas on a hybrid and how much extra will need to spend on the repairs ? 

Do you really need the sensing ? 

Why not, Petrol Freed do comes with sensing models. Go check with the PI's. I think you are still living in the stone age.

For your information, one of my friend just brought the petrol Freed with Sensing.  

I think we got on a wrong foot - if i am living in the stone age, i wouldn't be owning a car. Perhaps i will still be taking the ricksaw.

 

No idea. Thats why i ask. Previously i check it doesnt have.

 

 

If repair is a concern, i feel, get toyota better. There is more on the road hence the cost of repairs (if any) should be alot more affordable. Also i noticed alot of PI these days offer up to 7 years warranty.. so for the first 7 years u should be in great hands.

 

anyway, in the freed group - someone checked before and the replacement for the hybrid battery is 3-4k (including service). The freed chat group people are also swearing by sensing. Is your call to have it or not but there are alot of occasions where the sensing model help to avoid chain accidents. Is always good to have a second eye on the road for you hence i think is a worthy investment. However,  if you feel that is no need, you can cut cost further by getting a petrol model w/o sensing.00

Edited January 27, 2019 by Anderss

[Tomojiro]

  On 1/27/2019 at 2:18 AM, Anderss said:

I think we got on a wrong foot - if i am living in the stone age, i wouldn't be owning a car. Perhaps i will still be taking the ricksaw.

 

No idea. Thats why i ask. Previously i check it doesnt have.

 

 

If repair is a concern, i feel, get toyota better. There is more on the road hence the cost of repairs (if any) should be alot more affordable. Also i noticed alot of PI these days offer up to 7 years warranty.. so for the first 7 years u should be in great hands.

 

anyway, in the freed group - someone checked before and the replacement for the hybrid battery is 3-4k (including service). The freed chat group people are also swearing by sensing. Is your call to have it or not but there are alot of occasions where the sensing model help to avoid chain accidents. Is always good to have a second eye on the road for you hence i think is a worthy investment. However,  if you feel that is no need, you can cut cost further by getting a petrol model w/o sensing.00

Thank for your advise, anyway i had decided to go for normal salon car and drop that small MPV.

Just to let you know that even any Honda models (Freed, Vezel, Shuttle) with sensing also can head on the rear of a car in front as this was a living proof when I was in a bus at Aljunied Rd at the cross junction of Geylang East Road , I saw a Hybrid Freed (Naval Blue color) hit a car in front with the Freed front and bonnet badly damaged. I had no idea whether that Freed driver was speeding or did not concentrate while driving (using his handphone or something else)

And as from my that friend who bought that petrol Freed told me that he regret getting the car with Sensing becos once he wanted to overtake a vehicle in front of him in which his freed was maybe quite near the front car (abt 3m plus away) his Freed suddenly like jam brake on him (reaction from the sensing system) in which he was saying luckily there was no car behind him at a close distance or else it would bang behind his Freed. Problem is I never ask him what speed he was traveling at that time when he wants to overtake that car in front.        

For me, just a simple car that takes me where I wants to go is good enough.   

[vinmig]

Hybrid Freed is getting 16-18km per litre

Vs 11-12litre for petrol

To some the savings is not much. However, once Petrol hits $2.5 per lite or above, you feel the pinch.

As for hybrid battery repair, it range from 3-4K for whole battery replacement (done in JB Honda) using original batteries. As technology matures, battery will get cheaper too.

Estima Hybrid is not popular which you dun see much on the road. Repair cost is high. It’s now replace by 2.5 hybrid (used in Harrier hybrid and new Camry hybrid) camry hybrid can get 1000km per tank of 50l vs 2.5 petrol of 500km per 70l.

Those PHV mostly are hybrids . Mileage range from 200-300k still going strong ..

[Anderss]

  On 1/27/2019 at 9:04 AM, vinmig said:

Hybrid Freed is getting 16-18km per litre

Vs 11-12litre for petrol

To some the savings is not much. However, once Petrol hits $2.5 per lite or above, you feel the pinch.

As for hybrid battery repair, it range from 3-4K for whole battery replacement (done in JB Honda) using original batteries. As technology matures, battery will get cheaper too.

Estima Hybrid is not popular which you dun see much on the road. Repair cost is high. It’s now replace by 2.5 hybrid (used in Harrier hybrid and new Camry hybrid) camry hybrid can get 1000km per tank of 50l vs 2.5 petrol of 500km per 70l.

Those PHV mostly are hybrids . Mileage range from 200-300k still going strong ..

 

my average is 23-25km/l and i am not exactly a light foot/slow driver...

 

in Freed group, you could see alot of them actually has a much higher average than myself...

Edited January 27, 2019 by Anderss

[Anderss]

  On 1/27/2019 at 4:07 AM, Tomojiro said:

Thank for your advise, anyway i had decided to go for normal salon car and drop that small MPV.

Just to let you know that even any Honda models (Freed, Vezel, Shuttle) with sensing also can head on the rear of a car in front as this was a living proof when I was in a bus at Aljunied Rd at the cross junction of Geylang East Road , I saw a Hybrid Freed (Naval Blue color) hit a car in front with the Freed front and bonnet badly damaged. I had no idea whether that Freed driver was speeding or did not concentrate while driving (using his handphone or something else)

And as from my that friend who bought that petrol Freed told me that he regret getting the car with Sensing becos once he wanted to overtake a vehicle in front of him in which his freed was maybe quite near the front car (abt 3m plus away) his Freed suddenly like jam brake on him (reaction from the sensing system) in which he was saying luckily there was no car behind him at a close distance or else it would bang behind his Freed. Problem is I never ask him what speed he was traveling at that time when he wants to overtake that car in front.        

For me, just a simple car that takes me where I wants to go is good enough.   

 

I don't know where you get your bad negative and inaccurate list of feedback about Sensing model and etc.

 

Also, the effective sensing is effective up to 60KM/h (iirc). Anything above, u will still crash into it just that sensing has already do the necessary braking for you to reduce the impact to the maximum.

 

Most other brands out there with similar technology is only effective up to <30KM/hr .

 

 

<sorry re-read>

1. Didn't he received a beep/alert notification before he continue to go forward?

 

2. the speed he is travelling, if he is way damn fast, 3 meters is not going to cut it - the vehicle did the right action by braking it for him. Freed does progressive braking unless he keeps picking up his pace w/o a care of the world - then he should disable CMBS. It can be done.

 

3. somehow it feels like his vehicle is equipped with the older generation of CMBS than the full-fledged Honda Sensing with all the equipment and all. Since i couldn't clarify further from him, i will give it the benefit of doubt.

 

 

 

Anyway, enjoy your accepted choice of ride decision and welcome to the road of the tigers :)

Edited January 27, 2019 by Anderss

[Tomojiro]

I am not sure about your information on the petrol model that hits $2.5 per litre or above but I believe hybrid can save a bit more on the gas than petrol model. As I was checking on the price for a 'Hybrid' Freed and Sienta with many PI's during the past few months I was informed by the PI's (at least they are honest about this) that getting a hybrid car by the end of the 10 years COE when u de-register the car u only get $2.5k on the PARF benefit becos they said that the gov. already rebate the 30k back to the buyer on the car's price. As my friend who bought that petrol Freed model, his OMV was over $22k, and after 10 yrs, his minimum PARF benefit is at $9K plus. In my own calculation as I am a very cost concern guy, getting a hybrid model which the car's price is about the same with the petrol model and if I give up the car after 10 yrs I only get $2.5k in return that is a different of 7 to 8K with the petrol model and assuming that u owned a hybrid model and during that 10 yrs of use, u might need to change the hybrid batteries (which cost 3 to 4k a piece) maybe after the 6 to 8 yrs of used on the road (Pray and hope that all the hybrid batteries can last more than 10 yrs). To me, this is not only feeling the pinch but feeling my pocket is slowly burning a big hole. Well, unless u are not cost concern at all (money is not a problem for u) by all means full speed ahead......."Cheong Ah  ! " ……        

[vinmig]

  On 1/28/2019 at 3:19 AM, Tomojiro said:

 

 

I am not sure about your information on the petrol model that hits $2.5 per litre or above but I believe hybrid can save a bit more on the gas than petrol model. As I was checking on the price for a 'Hybrid' Freed and Sienta with many PI's during the past few months I was informed by the PI's (at least they are honest about this) that getting a hybrid car by the end of the 10 years COE when u de-register the car u only get $2.5k on the PARF benefit becos they said that the gov. already rebate the 30k back to the buyer on the car's price. As my friend who bought that petrol Freed model, his OMV was over $22k, and after 10 yrs, his minimum PARF benefit is at $9K plus. In my own calculation as I am a very cost concern guy, getting a hybrid model which the car's price is about the same with the petrol model and if I give up the car after 10 yrs I only get $2.5k in return that is a different of 7 to 8K with the petrol model and assuming that u owned a hybrid model and during that 10 yrs of use, u might need to change the hybrid batteries (which cost 3 to 4k a piece) maybe after the 6 to 8 yrs of used on the road (Pray and hope that all the hybrid batteries can last more than 10 yrs). To me, this is not only feeling the pinch but feeling my pocket is slowly burning a big hole. Well, unless u are not cost concern at all (money is not a problem for u) by all means full speed ahead......."Cheong Ah ! " â¦â¦

Maybe you are not sure of the updated parf amount

Hybrids omv is ard 26-27k

VES rebate 10k

After 10years take back 9xxx

It’s not 2500 (which is in 2017, VES rebate is 30k)

I’m pi so I know.

Depre is 9xxx per year.

That’s the lowest mpv depre you can find for Japanese make, with good fc.

[Tomojiro]

  On 1/28/2019 at 5:52 AM, vinmig said:

Maybe you are not sure of the updated parf amount

Hybrids omv is ard 26-27k

VES rebate 10k

After 10years take back 9xxx

It’s not 2500 (which is in 2017, VES rebate is 30k)

I’m pi so I know.

Depre is 9xxx per year.

That’s the lowest mpv depre you can find for Japanese make, with good fc.

Oh, is it ? then good for u. Anyway since the COE is around 27K, i already book a Honda Civic which I prefer over those small MPV (Freed or Sienta) or those box car e.g. Honda Tank.....etc which look like a small bread van (Lo Ti Chia) It really look awful and I won't have any headache in future over those Hybrid batteries with my civic.     

[Anderss]

  On 1/28/2019 at 6:30 AM, Tomojiro said:

Oh, is it ? then good for u. Anyway since the COE is around 27K, i already book a Honda Civic which I prefer over those small MPV (Freed or Sienta) or those box car e.g. Honda Tank.....etc which look like a small bread van (Lo Ti Chia) It really look awful and I won't have any headache in future over those Hybrid batteries with my civic.

Sell flower say flower nice smell. Lol? Wth u doing in here if is that ugly. Troll sia. Edited January 28, 2019 by Anderss

[Tomojiro]

  On 1/28/2019 at 1:24 PM, Anderss said:

Sell flower say flower nice smell. Lol? Wth u doing in here if is that ugly. Troll sia.

Sell bread say bread is fresh and tasty.....Lol ? Hopefully one day the Hybril batteries works not only to save on gas and also keep the breads fresh inside the box van before delivery to unaware customers. "Chia Lark" 

[Jammer]

Anyone has experience with this PI called Jia Yi Pte Ltd or Auto Selection Pte Ltd?

Currently they quoted the cheapest for Honda Freed 2019 Hybrid with Honda sensing. $96,800.

Comes with dvd player, reverse camera/sensor, solar film, leather seats, 1 year warranty with 2 free servicing.

 

Any other reliable PI with better deal?

Edited February 28, 2019 by Jammer

[vinmig]

  On 2/28/2019 at 3:24 AM, Jammer said:

Anyone has experience with this PI called Jia Yi Pte Ltd or Auto Selection Pte Ltd?

Currently they quoted the cheapest for Honda Freed 2019 Hybrid with Honda sensing. $96,800.

Comes with dvd player, reverse camera/sensor, solar film, leather seats, 1 year warranty with 2 free servicing.

 

Any other reliable PI with better deal?

1year Warranty ...

It’s very risky.. better to go for those with at least 5 years

But those here will advise you forget abt the warranty

[Anderss]

  On 2/28/2019 at 3:24 AM, Jammer said:

Anyone has experience with this PI called Jia Yi Pte Ltd or Auto Selection Pte Ltd?

Currently they quoted the cheapest for Honda Freed 2019 Hybrid with Honda sensing. $96,800.

Comes with dvd player, reverse camera/sensor, solar film, leather seats, 1 year warranty with 2 free servicing.

 

Any other reliable PI with better deal?

Only 1 year when other PI giving 5-10 years. Kinda dubious why is it on the lower side.

 

Do they have available stocks? I will only go for PI with available stocks just to have a peace of mind.

 

Recommend PI are

1. Vincar

2. The Car Cycle

3. Jackcars

 

Etc.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Anderss

[Jammer]

  On 3/1/2019 at 1:21 AM, Anderss said:

Only 1 year when other PI giving 5-10 years. Kinda dubious why is it on the lower side.

 

Do they have available stocks? I will only go for PI with available stocks just to have a peace of mind.

 

Recommend PI are

1. Vincar

2. The Car Cycle

3. Jackcars

 

Etc.

Wow.. got PI giving 10 years warranty??

I only heard 5 years so far

[Anderss]

  On 3/1/2019 at 2:05 AM, Jammer said:

Wow.. got PI giving 10 years warranty??

I only heard 5 years so far

During road shows/promotions.. usually 5-7years.

[AlexTan05]

  On 3/1/2019 at 2:05 AM, Jammer said:

Wow.. got PI giving 10 years warranty??

I only heard 5 years so far

 Yeah, pay $1800 for the extra 5 years. In addition, what kind of coverage is the extra 5 years? Even AD don't dare to give 10 years warranty while a PI dares. Think again :)