Kklee 6th Gear February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 7:22 PM, inlinesix said: What do mean by “hard to warm up”? For Jap car, HTHS no need higher than 2.6 for 0w-20 IMHO. Simply, during my 1st cold start in the morning, the engine will be off as it is sort of like in EV mode. There could be lubrication but the engine coolant temp takes almost twice the distance to reach 75°C operating temperature - I use coolant temp as an indication for engine operating temperature. Higher HTHS of course higher is better. 🤣 ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 6:45 PM, ER-3682 said: Hybrid...no need to warm up...just move off...no worries..Singapore is not that Cold,the Toyota Hybrid System is tested in Sub Zero Temperature. IMHO Within 1km, I need to go over an a-bit-steep flyover. 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 7:49 PM, Kklee said: IMHO. Simply, during my 1st cold start in the morning, the engine will be off as it is sort of like in EV mode. There could be lubrication but the engine coolant temp takes almost twice the distance to reach 75°C operating temperature - I use coolant temp as an indication for engine operating temperature. Higher HTHS of course higher is better. 🤣 There is a balance btw efficiency and protection. Only turbocharged engine needs > 2.6. Not many 20ct with HTHS > 2.6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 8:01 PM, inlinesix said: There is a balance btw efficiency and protection. Only turbocharged engine needs > 2.6. Not many 20ct with HTHS > 2.6 IMHO. The HTHS is more like good to have. Important for me is lubrication and engine to reach operating temperature as fast as possible. My Atkinson-cycle engine is a bit nightmarish during movement during cold start. 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 8:09 PM, Kklee said: IMHO. The HTHS is more like good to have. Important for me is lubrication and engine to reach operating temperature as fast as possible. My Atkinson-cycle engine is a bit nightmarish during movement during cold start. 🤣 Maybe you want to try Original Toyota 0W20 Oil.?It is made in Japan,Owen Rd Toyota Parts Stockist Ric Tat got sell...$48.00 if i remember correctly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 8:13 PM, ER-3682 said: Maybe you want to try Original Toyota 0W20 Oil.?It is made in Japan,Owen Rd Toyota Parts Stockist Ric Tat got sell...$48.00 if i remember correctly. IMHO. Will check it out. If got Shopee retailer name for SHU 0w-20, even better. 🤣 The challenge could be unique to me because I drive down MSCP after cold start. AFAIK, Atkinson-cycle engine are not design for power at lower RPM. Thus when the engine kicked in, it will try to go higher RPM which is, well, harsh and noisy. And a few hundred metres later, I need to climb that abit-steep-flyover. I am trying to find information on whether during cold-start, will the oil pump ( electronic? ) works by splashing the engine oil ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 8:27 PM, Kklee said: IMHO. Will check it out. If got Shopee retailer name for SHU 0w-20, even better. 🤣 The challenge could be unique to me because I drive down MSCP after cold start. AFAIK, Atkinson-cycle engine are not design for power at lower RPM. Thus when the engine kicked in, it will try to go higher RPM which is, well, harsh and noisy. And a few hundred metres later, I need to climb that abit-steep-flyover. I am trying to find information on whether during cold-start, will the oil pump ( electronic? ) works by splashing the engine oil ? No worries,the Engineers at Toyota already tested this Engine,it is used on Tens of Millions of Toyota Hybrid Worldwide,not to mention,our Comfort Taxis also using it..all clocked over 300,000Km with no or little issue. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 8:27 PM, Kklee said: IMHO. Will check it out. If got Shopee retailer name for SHU 0w-20, even better. 🤣 The challenge could be unique to me because I drive down MSCP after cold start. AFAIK, Atkinson-cycle engine are not design for power at lower RPM. Thus when the engine kicked in, it will try to go higher RPM which is, well, harsh and noisy. And a few hundred metres later, I need to climb that abit-steep-flyover. I am trying to find information on whether during cold-start, will the oil pump ( electronic? ) works by splashing the engine oil ? If you don't use much,try pumping 98 Petrol,Engine seems like quieter for my Hybrid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 24 Share February 24 On 2/24/2024 at 9:05 PM, ER-3682 said: If you don't use much,try pumping 98 Petrol,Engine seems like quieter for my Hybrid. IMHO. I use lots. But will experiment with ron98 sometime in the near future. I suspect it could be more fuel efficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanChen 2nd Gear February 25 Share February 25 On 2/24/2024 at 8:27 PM, Kklee said: IMHO. Will check it out. If got Shopee retailer name for SHU 0w-20, even better. 🤣 The challenge could be unique to me because I drive down MSCP after cold start. AFAIK, Atkinson-cycle engine are not design for power at lower RPM. Thus when the engine kicked in, it will try to go higher RPM which is, well, harsh and noisy. And a few hundred metres later, I need to climb that abit-steep-flyover. I am trying to find information on whether during cold-start, will the oil pump ( electronic? ) works by splashing the engine oil ? if your oil pump dont work, there will be no lub in your engine. piang liao lah dont think so much 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 25 Share February 25 On 2/25/2024 at 9:28 AM, DylanChen said: if your oil pump dont work, there will be no lub in your engine. piang liao lah dont think so much IMHO. I also don't want to think too much, but the car is letting me know. 🤣 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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