Hamburger Hypersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 well its not about superstitious, lowest bidder gets the price. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 (edited) Maybe... they will blame the rain. Which is technically yes. But if rain, don't pour concrete lah. But ordered already. Mixer already on the way. How? Ok. Ok. Pour pour. and hope the rain water wont get into it. But will the weight change much if its wet concrete solidifying and dried concrete?? Hope the consistency of the concrete is tested (I remember in the old days they do the cone test) but Singapore with its erratic weather this kind of pouring in wet weather must have been factored by maybe putting a tarpaulin over the area so the rain dont "kachau" the drying or curing process; but humidity cannot be changed which might be another factor Edited July 14, 2017 by BanCoe 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Don't think so. It's owned and managed by respectable and high level people from grassroots https://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/collapsed-highway-contractor-owned-pap-grassroots-leaders So the saying goes.... they are from a good family and have contributed so much to the Republic .......... just their bad luck 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Responsibility of this matter is under Transport / LTA correct ?Put paper generals in charge again lor.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 (edited) no blame culture please ... Edited July 14, 2017 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Wah lao eh.. This construction is never ending 1.. Previous contractor go bankrupt doing this project. Then Project cannot finish and left a standstill. Then this company came along and do also accident happen. Think they need to be more superstitious and go pray pray la.. Don't scrimp and save on these kinda ceremony. This flyover is jinxed la.. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/braddell-flyovers-completion-delayed-again Different flyover leh.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashcow Turbocharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Wah lao eh.. This construction is never ending 1.. Previous contractor go bankrupt doing this project. Then Project cannot finish and left a standstill. Then this company came along and do also accident happen. Think they need to be more superstitious and go pray pray la.. Don't scrimp and save on these kinda ceremony. This flyover is jinxed la.. http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/braddell-flyovers-completion-delayed-again The Braddell/Bishan flyer and bypass constructions works mentioned above is almost completed by now. However, the latest mishap early this morning is located at Upp Changi Rd East/PIE slip road where there were 10 injured and 1 dead being reported. Report 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 so will existing flyover topple? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Anyone still remember the sunshade in Tampines that gave way and dropped down ? Looks like business as usual and everyone forgets. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Can guess your age liao based on your account. Haha... But things like kitchen cooker top, wardrobe and kitchen cabinets are installed by your own contractors and not bought together with HDB as fixtures, right? Aiyah, no need to hide lah. Attended MU so even face also showed already The current place i moved to is a condo leh. All those things mentioned, all came together for the price i paid... I still haven't mentioned all the other things that I separately paid/bought for, like the fans, lights, electrical appliances, chairs, sofas, etc. etc... See lah, headache or not... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 The Braddell/Bishan flyer and bypass constructions works mentioned above is almost completed by now. However, the latest mishap early this morning is located at Upp Changi Rd East/PIE slip road where there were 10 injured and 1 dead being reported. Report The Braddell/Bishan flyer and bypass has completed and open to traffic. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still2016 Twincharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Those who are involved in the construction industry will appreciate there is a "push" by the authorities to the construction industry to self check ownself (that is, appoint the check and come up with a valid paper). The authorities just don't get it, in any private industry, if they can cut corners without being caught they will. If you notice a lot of TOP are given out by the authorities even before many things are considered OK as in the past. The Flyover collapse incident is just a taste of what is to come. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrino Supercharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 well its not about superstitious, lowest bidder gets the price. I think you mean lowest bidder gets the job. But this is a big problem. OK due dilligence should be done before giving to lowest bidder but I'd like to see figures for how many times lowest bidder doesn't get the job on major contracts. I've been told there have been major contracts where fatalities occur and the contractor in charge has been told he will be removed from the bidding list in future but next job comes along and there he is on the list and is lowest bidder and wins contract. Too early to apportion responsibility/blame here. For this type of falsework the design should be checked by independent professional engineer who will have to sign it off. And supervision of this falsework construction has to be done by enginer in charge. Or that's how it used to be. But accidents do happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koma7 2nd Gear July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 (edited) I think you mean lowest bidder gets the job. But this is a big problem. OK due dilligence should be done before giving to lowest bidder but I'd like to see figures for how many times lowest bidder doesn't get the job on major contracts. I've been told there have been major contracts where fatalities occur and the contractor in charge has been told he will be removed from the bidding list in future but next job comes along and there he is on the list and is lowest bidder and wins contract. Too early to apportion responsibility/blame here. For this type of falsework the design should be checked by independent professional engineer who will have to sign it off. And supervision of this falsework construction has to be done by enginer in charge. Or that's how it used to be. But accidents do happen. Need Certificate of Supervison (COS) by PE before casting ...but most sites are just doing paper excercise...Risk Assessment, Tool box meeting and Permit To Work Form...all the same. I wont be surprised if PE issue COS without coming to site for inspection. All just wayang...cos MOM themselves also wayang.. Edited July 14, 2017 by Koma7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still2016 Twincharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Those who are involved in the construction industry will appreciate there is a "push" by the authorities to the construction industry to self check ownself (that is, appoint the check and come up with a valid paper). The authorities just don't get it, in any private industry, if they can cut corners without being caught they will. If you notice a lot of TOP are given out by the authorities even before many things are considered OK as in the past. The Flyover collapse incident is just a taste of what is to come. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buadongdong Twincharged July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Different flyover leh....Oops.. Paiseh.. I pa jiao.. Cock eye.. Hehehe.. My bad.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bystander50 5th Gear July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 Is it the construction company not being paid on time and in the brink of financial trouble? Go google their connections to the whites. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic July 14, 2017 Share July 14, 2017 This things can happen in any country ... so why the exception of Singapore??? Accidents will happen more easily especially with space constraints (though Nicoll higway one was on ground level) See the pictures below ; the overpass crash open up like a zipper.... scary Man.... anyway this happened in India..... again it can happen anywhere ... sometime back I remember even in Korea a bridge under construction collapsed too ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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