Harrier 2017

[AFWE69]

Booked the car last weekend, my queue no. quoted till dec... long waiting lists now.

 

 

It seems to stuck at Dec delivery for a while, guess the pend-up demand has finished.

[Mkl22]

Think the question is whether it is fully factory warranty or combination of factory warranty + insuranced based warranty.

Yes. On the surface it's the same but in reality it isn't.

[camrysfe]

It seems to stuck at Dec delivery for a while, guess the pend-up demand has finished.

Come next year, Harrier might be hit by the ves penalty.

[Arogab]

It seems to stuck at Dec delivery for a while, guess the pend-up demand has finished.

Now commit is in Dec but I think they will pull in the date. Also they might be waiting for batch numbers to hit in terms of one full shipment.

[Wadexu]

For elegance model, can't decide on BM offer of 147K while PI offer of 130K, what's you view on BM or PI. Thanks.

[camrysfe]

For elegance model, can't decide on BM offer of 147K while PI offer of 130K, what's you view on BM or PI. Thanks.

17k for turbo and added assurance of buying from bm

[white_black]

For elegance model, can't decide on BM offer of 147K while PI offer of 130K, what's you view on BM or PI. Thanks.

Cost - BM's Harrier Turbo has a much higher OMV vs PI's cars. Hence depreciation gap will be close enough. Work out the annual depreciation of both cars, DO NOT just look at headline prices.

 

Specs- Harrier Turbo facelift 2017 vs Harrier N.A. "old stock". No brainer.

 

Warranty and service - Sleep well is priceless.

 

Resale value - PI cars will lose big time vs AD car. You will get a heart attack when you try to trade in or sell to used car dealers. If go PI route, be prepared to drive till or near scrap.

 

Loan - if lowest cash down payment and largest and longest loan tenor is important to you, go buy from PI. But the interest payable on the loan will offset the headline price difference. Do the sums.

 

Add ons and fees charged by PIs - admin fee, processing fee, extra costs for add ons etc will all add up. If you not taking loan, PIs will charge penalty fees to compensate their commissions they forgo for losing your loan referral/business.

 

Hence, the supposed $17K difference may be much smaller gap after factoring above considerations.

 

All PIs are now desperate to clear their stocks of Harrier N.A. cars on their books. If you still insist on getting from PIs. you can surely drive a good bargain especially this period of time and before year end due to new VES policy. Sign with both eyes wide open!

 

Good luck!

Edited August 8, 2017 by white_black

[GerryChua]

17k for turbo and added assurance of buying from bm

YOM2017 from BM instead of older model from PI, but no moonroof.

[richard_crl032]

For elegance model, can't decide on BM offer of 147K while PI offer of 130K, what's you view on BM or PI. Thanks.

Hi Wadexu,

 

Oh no ... can only be the new facelift BM model with fixes of all the shortcomings of old PI version on lack of power, floaty suspension, known cvt failure, Japanese language, 5 yrs warranty, guaranteed aftersales service against questionable one as well as various safety features.. many owners of old PI version would sell theirs to you and get the BM version.

 

At 147k for BM version, I would only consider older PI model against the mentioned reasons if less than 117k but that will not happen and BM version is just too attractively priced oe PI one is just overly priced previously and now.

 

Cheers.

YOM2017 from BM instead of older model from PI, but no moonroof.

Hi Gerry,

 

Not sure if PI is with roof but it is hardly used in nice sunny singapore and also hope dun leak even if toyota cos not uncommon especially after few years.

 

Same even if electric seats unless with memory setting of the luxury AND dual driver in the family.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

Edited August 8, 2017 by richard_crl032

[Wadexu]

Thanks for the well balanced overall view. Looks the BM is the one to go.

 

Cost - BM's Harrier Turbo has a much higher OMV vs PI's cars. Hence depreciation gap will be close enough. Work out the annual depreciation of both cars, DO NOT just look at headline prices.

Specs- Harrier Turbo facelift 2017 vs Harrier N.A. "old stock". No brainer.

Warranty and service - Sleep well is priceless.

Resale value - PI cars will lose big time vs AD car. You will get a heart attack when you try to trade in or sell to used car dealers. If go PI route, be prepared to drive till or near scrap.

Loan - if lowest cash down payment and largest and longest loan tenor is important to you, go buy from PI. But the interest payable on the loan will offset the headline price difference. Do the sums.

Add ons and fees charged by PIs - admin fee, processing fee, extra costs for add ons etc will all add up. If you not taking loan, PIs will charge penalty fees to compensate their commissions they forgo for losing your loan referral/business.

Hence, the supposed $17K difference may be much smaller gap after factoring above considerations.

All PIs are now desperate to clear their stocks of Harrier N.A. cars on their books. If you still insist on getting from PIs. you can surely drive a good bargain especially this period of time and before year end due to new VES policy. Sign with both eyes wide open!

Good luck!

 

 

[Wadexu]

Actually Initially I am looking for 100K - 110K range of Japanese car for small family of 4. Test drive the HR-V, Civic, Forester, Nissan Teana and finally harrier today.

 

Like the harrier very much. it's total different car with the others I've tested before.

 

Now I am asking myself, in the 147K range, is there any better alternative for consideration.

 

Thanks for all the suggestion.

[GerryChua]

Hi Gerry,

 

Not sure if PI is with roof but it is hardly used in nice sunny singapore and also hope dun leak even if toyota cos not uncommon especially after few years.

 

Same even if electric seats unless with memory setting of the luxury AND dual driver in the family.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

Hi Richard, I think the roof is of value. You had decided on the FXT and it is very important as it bring out the whole cabin visibility. Similarly important feature for FNA and Harrier. You can see BM try to cut corner by offering elegance without roof.

So far have not heard of roof leak...

[andrewyewkc]

Hi Richard, I think the roof is of value. You had decided on the FXT and it is very important as it bring out the whole cabin visibility. Similarly important feature for FNA and Harrier. You can see BM try to cut corner by offering elegance without roof.

So far have not heard of roof leak...

So far there are a number of complaints on the roof rattling etc on Harrier facebook.

[richard_crl032]

Actually Initially I am looking for 100K - 110K range of Japanese car for small family of 4. Test drive the HR-V, Civic, Forester, Nissan Teana and finally harrier today.

 

Like the harrier very much. it's total different car with the others I've tested before.

 

Now I am asking myself, in the 147K range, is there any better alternative for consideration.

 

Thanks for all the suggestion.

Hi Wadexu,

 

100-110k for mentioned HRV, Civic, Forester, Nissan etc. and 147k for Harrier is quite a big difference in $ and you looking at different tier of car liao.

 

You are also looking at 350Nm/227bhp during test drive if Harrier Turbo and unless diesel cars, none except Forester FXT at that price or more expensive 1.8-2.0l turbo or supercharged conti like A6 etc. which you should not test drive cos I guarantee they are also different from Harrier Turbo else you may end up considering another 37-47k difference for them.

 

Btw, is elegance version even available now to order ??

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

[white_black]

Hi Wadexu,

 

100-110k for mentioned HRV, Civic, Forester, Nissan etc. and 147k for Harrier is quite a big difference in $ and you looking at different tier of car liao.

 

You are also looking at 350Nm/227bhp during test drive if Harrier Turbo and unless diesel cars, none except Forester FXT at that price or more expensive 1.8-2.0l turbo or supercharged conti like A6 etc. which you should not test drive cos I guarantee they are also different from Harrier Turbo else you may end up considering another 37-47k difference for them.

 

Btw, is elegance version even available now to order ??

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

The Elegance variant was on BM pricelist since 21 July. Was launched for sale at the launch event on 20 July.

Edited August 9, 2017 by white_black

[Sg571958]

17k for turbo and added assurance of buying from bm

 

I still have my $155K with a PI that folded shop. I pay in full on a ready COE under my name, PI took my Money and suppose too deliver the next morning and owner runs.

 

I will not buy from a PI even they offer $100K for a new Harrier.

 

Just do my math, $155K disappear due to PI + another $200K for a Lexus NX = $355K SPENT

 

I can use the $355K to buy a porsche cayenne top spec model.

 

Buying from PI is liking getting f**k by a girl you knows that has HIV

 

YOU DECIDE YOU LIKE TO BE f**k BY HIV CHICK

 

I'm not alone and there's about 40 brothers who lost their money to the same PI. And when I follow up over the last 10 months with the police investigator, there is more than 38  PIs that is being investigate on similar issue - take money and declare business folded. All these PI owners are still out there....EVEN THE ONE THAT RUNS AWAY WITH MY $ START A PI AGAIN..................because the Singapore Law has a loop hole against them. As long as they don;t run, they declare business folded, they are not breaking the law.

 

DON"T EVER BUY FROM A f**kING PI

 

Edited August 9, 2017 by Sg571958

[t0y0ta]

Hi Richard, I think the roof is of value. You had decided on the FXT and it is very important as it bring out the whole cabin visibility. Similarly important feature for FNA and Harrier. You can see BM try to cut corner by offering elegance without roof.

So far have not heard of roof leak...

 

Bro, one man's meat is another man's poison. You dream of glass roof but I dislike it because of potential maintenance issues.

 

And if you know how product positioning works in all industry... it is not about saving $$ by "cutting corners" - it is to lower specs of lower models to differentiate up the higher models.

[richard_crl032]

The Elegance variant was on BM pricelist since 21 July. Was launched for sale at the launch event on 20 July.

Hi White_black,

 

Noted and tks !