Harrier 2017

[richard_crl032]

I dunno i driving one its good enough for me. Selling away probably backside itchy?? Haha

Hi Thai,

 

Not sure if you test drove the harrier turbo but I did 2 test drives and waz driving the Harrier NA for 2 weeks before I did so.

 

As you had seen, many nicely done up Harrier NA with bbk, body kits, rims/tyres, ICE etc. amounting to sgd30k easily.

 

With the arrival of turbo version:

 

- from AD,

- much betta than underpowered NA version,

- firmer suspension setup vs the floaty ride of the NA version,

- 6 speed vs laggy CVT of NA version,

- host of safety features,

- english .. not weird Japanese dashboard

 

..selling off the NA version for these owners and getting the Harrier turbo is not backside itchy but for owners who wants a much much better car.

 

No, I did not proceed with the Harrier Turbo and took back my sgd3k desposit to buy the forester turbo but that is another chapter.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

Edited December 19, 2017 by richard_crl032

[Thaiyotakamli]

Just my preferences, overall a nice car to own but if I've to nick pick

 

1. need to turn off HU Caution msg each time starting the engine, am already busy with Auto Start/Off.

 

2. S/S is not as smooth as I expected during cut in.

 

3. Lack proper pocket for hp. Door pocket too narrow.

 

4. Lack proper usb charging, charging via HU is unsightly with wire dangling.

 

5. Uninvolving drive.

 

6. Seats could have been slightly wider at bum area. I always prefer firmer foam.

 

7. Remote fob same Sienta, don't match the car. :(

 

8. No paddle shifters.

 

+ points

1. Though some say no turbo kick, but the design is more like 2T giving a 3L NA linear power.

 

2. Light steering, good or bad depends on driver.

 

3. Good insulation & really quiet car.

 

4. FC is better than I expected, especially on highway.

 

5. Ventilated front seats.

 

6. Headlight lights very chio in the night from rear view mirror. Hawk eyes.

 

7. Comfy ride for passengers.

3. There are many places to put ur phone. I normally put at side door cos mine S8 plus.

 

4. Usb charging got 2, another one inside the centre arm box

 

7. Agree remote fob sucks

[Thaiyotakamli]

Hi Thai,

 

Not sure if you test drove the harrier turbo but I did 2 test drives and waz driving the Harrier NA for 2 weeks before I did so.

 

As you had seen, many nicely done up Harrier NA with bbk, body kits, rims/tyres, ICE etc. amounting to sgd30k easily.

 

With the arrival of turbo version:

 

- from AD,

- much betta than underpowered NA version,

- firmer suspension setup vs the floaty ride of the NA version,

- 6 speed vs laggy CVT of NA version,

- host of safety features,

- english .. not weird Japanese dashboard

 

..selling off the NA version for these owners and getting the Harrier turbo is not backside itchy but for owners who wants a much much better car.

 

No, I did not proceed with the Harrier Turbo and took back my sgd3k desposit to buy the forester turbo but that is another chapter.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

Hmm but harrier turbo cost $20k more than PI. Also for me i prefer NA because better FC i dont really need the power in sg driving. Only when i go malaysia i turn on power mode for adequate power.

 

I heard there are one or two owner selling because changing to harrier turbo but imo most of them sell to change another car. Harrier is very common on the road hence its not surprising to see a number of them listed in sgcarmart.

 

 

If i were given a choice again, i would probably still buy the NA. The only thing about harrier turbo attracted me is the ventilated seat. Others like sport suspension and responsive transmission doesnt really matter. I need a smooth transmission cvt doing well here.

 

For japanese dashboard it applies on message warning but most function is in chinese. For japanese part i can use google translate.

 

And to me i did consider forester before bought this harrier NA but the look and interior of forester didnt appeal me (personal preference)

[explorerX]

3. There are many places to put ur phone. I normally put at side door cos mine S8 plus.

 

4. Usb charging got 2, another one inside the centre arm box

 

7. Agree remote fob sucks

Urs comes with a usb port inside arm rest like JDM? Mine only 12v socket. :-(

 

I like the HT JDM credit card remote. Anyone bought & program it to their ride?

[Junky73]

Urs comes with a usb port inside arm rest like JDM? Mine only 12v socket. :-(

 

I like the HT JDM credit card remote. Anyone bought & program it to their ride?

 

Any pictures to show?

[richard_crl032]

Hmm but harrier turbo cost $20k more than PI. Also for me i prefer NA because better FC i dont really need the power in sg driving. Only when i go malaysia i turn on power mode for adequate power.

 

I heard there are one or two owner selling because changing to harrier turbo but imo most of them sell to change another car. Harrier is very common on the road hence its not surprising to see a number of them listed in sgcarmart.

 

 

If i were given a choice again, i would probably still buy the NA. The only thing about harrier turbo attracted me is the ventilated seat. Others like sport suspension and responsive transmission doesnt really matter. I need a smooth transmission cvt doing well here.

 

For japanese dashboard it applies on message warning but most function is in chinese. For japanese part i can use google translate.

 

And to me i did consider forester before bought this harrier NA but the look and interior of forester didnt appeal me (personal preference)

 

Hi Thai,

 

Indeed if FC or additional SGD20k are in consideration, NA is certainly preferred over Harrier Turbo or Forester FXT but latter both no doubt offer more relaxed and quiet ride due to more effortless pick up and response ... my CO commented why I drive the Forester FXT so slowly without my realisation as compared to the 2.4 Estima which I attribute to the fact that there is no longer the need for the engine to struggle from standstill, at junction or to main road. More importantly, this improved response offers safety since there is less doubt and hesitation if you know what I mean against the more bulky feel of Harrier.

 

Indeed also many Harrier NA from PI as the best seller SUV and not usual to find many sellers but my point is that many Harrier NA owners spent much more than your mentioned sgd20k  price difference on their enhancement in aesthetics, brakes, performance etc. and this arrival of Harrier Turbo version is a no brainer for them to sell off their Harrier NA for obvious upgrade .... I would do in 2 seconds if I own the Harrier NA after having experienced both.

 

On the forester XT, it is indeed one of the least appealing car aesthetically and hence I had never considered getting one for years.... until I test drove it and there was no turning back ... even at the expense of giving up the Harrier Turbo.  The Forester XT has great response while the Harrier Turbo is "un-involving" as mentioned by another owner due perhaps to typical Toyota tuning vs Subaru's. 

 

However, the Forester XT is certainly not without its limitations other than aesthetics outside or inside which I shared extensively in the mycarforum's Forester thread.  At stock, it is horribly bouncy especially the rear and overall jittery .. shared by many owners with albeit not previously in the forester thread that needs to be fixed by upgrade anti-roll bars, struts, undercarriage stuffs etc. as well as many aftermarket suspension systems.  Despite the reportedly improved acoustic windscreen and added insulation, it is still noisy with obvious tyre/road intrusion but I am now pleased to say I had eradicated to a very acceptable level with 3-layer SP (stp bomb, high density foam and felt) and autofoam/ultimate package had albeit at almost sgd5k in total while insignificant impact on FC due perhaps to the never strained engine for my type of driving.

 

Back to aesthetics internal, I had the A-D pillars changed to black version from limited Forester TS version and much betta especially with shades except the rear and front to create a more cosy ambience due to large and numerous windows but I will never use black top liner like Harrier NA or Turbo. For the aesthetic external except final pending scooped bonnet in Jan 2018, I am also pleased now even when compared to the Harrier... the look somehow grows on you like a good old friend but I am indeed old in age and old school and I offer photos for your viewing pleasure.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

Edited December 20, 2017 by richard_crl032

[Thaiyotakamli]

Urs comes with a usb port inside arm rest like JDM? Mine only 12v socket. :-(

 

I like the HT JDM credit card remote. Anyone bought & program it to their ride?

Oh mine 12v socket but u can use extension which has few usb port

[Laiwh]

I'm one of those who are torn between the harrier 2.0 NA and turbo versions. The extra 20k saving is quite a substantial amount to me and i'm not sure if the extra horsepower is really necessary for me.

I would like to gather some input from the bros who have driven the NA version

 

Does the NA harrier feel under-powered when trying to overtake cars on the road?

 

How is the road noise intrusion when going over 100km/h? My current ride is a civic FD2 and it roars like hell when i cruise at more than 150km/h (on NSHW).

 

Lastly, if you have bought the NA harrier, and if you don't mind, can you please share your PI with me thru PM please :)

 

thanks

[andrewyewkc]

With the arrival of turbo version:

 

- from AD,

- much betta than underpowered NA version,

- firmer suspension setup vs the floaty ride of the NA version,

- 6 speed vs laggy CVT of NA version,

- host of safety features,

- english .. not weird Japanese dashboard

 

..selling off the NA version for these owners and getting the Harrier turbo is not backside itchy but for owners who wants a much much better car.

With many cases of failure of the torque converter on the CVT transmission, the new turbo harrier with a more reliable transmission would be a much better car.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2703569-new-harrier-gearbox-issues/

 

[Junky73]

I'm one of those who are torn between the harrier 2.0 NA and turbo versions. The extra 20k saving is quite a substantial amount to me and i'm not sure if the extra horsepower is really necessary for me.

I would like to gather some input from the bros who have driven the NA version

 

Does the NA harrier feel under-powered when trying to overtake cars on the road?

 

How is the road noise intrusion when going over 100km/h? My current ride is a civic FD2 and it roars like hell when i cruise at more than 150km/h (on NSHW).

 

Lastly, if you have bought the NA harrier, and if you don't mind, can you please share your PI with me thru PM please :)

 

thanks

 

Yeah, PI harrier 2.0NA is a cheaper alternative.

 

If you add the accessories, I think price is very close to Borneo Harrier.

 

1) English dashboard

2) Moonroof

3) Electric driver seat

4) Turbo Engine + 6AT (hope no Torque converter issue)

5) Electric Tailgate (adjustable opening height)

6) Integrated Reverse Cam (The lines move according to your steering)

7) Sequential front signal light

8) Warranty by BM

9) In house loan ?

 

Anyway I bought the Borneo harrier, I maybe bias. haha

[t0y0ta]

With many cases of failure of the torque converter on the CVT transmission, the new turbo harrier with a more reliable transmission would be a much better car.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2703569-new-harrier-gearbox-issues/

 

So far sounds like urban legend.

 

The same engine/GB combi used for most of the Toyota family MPVs like Wish/Noah/Voxy/ISIS and even the RAV4 and a 2.0 litre NA variant of Lexus NX (never bring to SG).

[andrewyewkc]

So far sounds like urban legend.

 

The same engine/GB combi used for most of the Toyota family MPVs like Wish/Noah/Voxy/ISIS and even the RAV4 and a 2.0 litre NA variant of Lexus NX (never bring to SG).

There are also many cases reported on facebook. The owners all face real problem, not legends.

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SG.Harrier/?fref=nf

Edited December 20, 2017 by andrewyewkc

[explorerX]

My colleague's NA went back 3 times to fix the GB, he planning to sell it off next year. Maybe heng sway.

[explorerX]

Any pictures to show?

[Passion]

 

Any pictures to show?

 

2 words to describe.

 

1) Cheap

2)Plastic

[Char]

I'm one of those who are torn between the harrier 2.0 NA and turbo versions. The extra 20k saving is quite a substantial amount to me and i'm not sure if the extra horsepower is really necessary for me.

I would like to gather some input from the bros who have driven the NA version

 

Does the NA harrier feel under-powered when trying to overtake cars on the road?

 

How is the road noise intrusion when going over 100km/h? My current ride is a civic FD2 and it roars like hell when i cruise at more than 150km/h (on NSHW).

 

Lastly, if you have bought the NA harrier, and if you don't mind, can you please share your PI with me thru PM please :)

 

thanks

Bro , you want power or turbo feel just turn on power mode .

With many cases of failure of the torque converter on the CVT transmission, the new turbo harrier with a more reliable transmission would be a much better car.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2703569-new-harrier-gearbox-issues/

Who know also got gearbox problem as BM Harrier just in market less than 6 months ?

[inlinesix]

Bro , you want power or turbo feel just turn on power mode .

Who know also got gearbox problem as BM Harrier just in market less than 6 months ?

 

As if power mode is really got more power.

 

With max torque at low RPM is a already big plus point for city driving.

 

The 6 speed Aisin box should be inherited from 1 of the those V6 3L/3.5L model.

[andrewyewkc]

Who know also got gearbox problem as BM Harrier just in market less than 6 months ?

Maybe lah, but Toyota's auto transmission reputation is still solid, my last Toyota GB lasted me 10 years without a single problem, somemore this one in the Lexus too.