17-year-old boy dies after falling from 4th floor of Orchard

[Evillusion]

woah ...

only my MIL and mum don't use whatsapp!

hahaha...maybe i am their age! I had used watsapp before....but it was rather distracting! Some even sent msgs at 11-12pm.....nb. I left and delete group they add me in again.......so last resort i uninstall the software.....

[pi3142]

just in case if you need to step on such surfaces advisable is to step on the screws or nails. Thats where the brackets or the struts is and is usually firm. Nowadays the young is rather ignorant of dangers as they are always shielded and protected by the adults especially parents and caregivers (teachers included because of duty).

 

How many adults and parents actually know about this? Hopefully, more people will learn that such structures are not to be stepped on.The horror of this incident. If he is with friends, they must have been traumatised too. 

 

[Philipkee]

yup 2 rescue breaths.

Most people don't dare to do rescue breathing. Especially if there is blood/saliva coming out. I also wont' do rescue breathing in traumat situation.

 

Well the evidence says that if the person has no pulse, the chest compressions are the important one, not rescue breathing.

For the part with pulse and no breathing, i think that category is narrow, don't really encounter often.

Since we are not talking about cpr in trauma but cpr in general

 

1) pulse but no breathing in a hospital or well equipped setting, ventilation systems

 

2) pulse but no breathing in an out of hospital setting do rescue breathing or chest compressions.

 

Rationale. If you are trained it is obvious. Need ventilation. If untrained do chest compressions. Reason is two fold. One is if a person is not breathing and there is no way of providing ventilation, even if there is a pulse it will stop soon. Second is if you are untrained or half way trained or very anxious there is the chance that you are feeling your own pulse instead and person is actually in cardiac arrest.

 

So what should you do if you encounter such a situation?

 

Call 995 and describe the location and what happened. The dispatcher will tell you what to do. The dispatcher will also activate the myresponder app to alert any nearby trained cpr aed providers to assist you if they are able to. They will probably reach faster than the ambulance since they might be nearby downstairs upstairs or shopping in the next store.....

 

If you happen to do chest compressions on a person with a pulse but no breathing the harm is not that bad so don't worry. Better to do this than to not do chest compressions on someone who might really be in cardiac arrest. Of cos I assume you are not doing compressions on the neck or something so it is very important to listen to the dispatcher. The compression on the neck is meant to be a joke but I heard it really happened before though....

 

I will link my other thread on the app here.

http://www.mycarforum.com/topic/2703623-myresponder-app-to-call-scdf/?hl=myresponder

[Evillusion]

How many adults and parents actually know about this? Hopefully, more people will learn that such structures are not to be stepped on.The horror of this incident. If he is with friends, they must have been traumatised too.

 

last time coconut tree got no sign....but i dont climb them lei! There is always a sense of fear instilled in me since young. But thinking again with many children diagnos with various levels of autism and adhd....i see many young ones having no fear that would make a normal kid fearful...

[RH1667]

there is alrady a rail and a glass panel....if their brain cant process its a no-go place do you think a warning sign will deter them!

Agreed that the rail and glass panel already serve as an indication of " no entry border " in normal situation; but in freak case / incident, people may have though just stepping over for the mere few seconds to retrieve their item is safe. Not many are aware which structure ( parapets/ cover ) are able to withstand load. It will be at least a warning to everyone.

[PSP415]

RIP young man. Sincere condolences to the bereaved family.

 

 

This is like the start of a new generation of ppl who have legs but rather use e-bikes, miss nature before them and rather gaze with rapt attention on the images of nature in their phones, spend most of their living life looking down at their phones

 

Please dun be so glued to your phone ya. It's not the women who will have signages everywhere if they rule the world. It's the men actually for eg. He will smoke in a no smoking area and when confronted will say "Where's the sign or notice that says I can't smoke here?". Put a sign and they suddenly went blind or illiterate.

 

In this instance, it's unfortunate that phone dropped on a weak spot not for walking. Negilence of the mall? No. They and many others will from now on because this incident start to have notices everywhere near railings or parapets etc. Hopefully the sheer number of signages will help prevent such an incident. But if ppl chose to be blind or daring or illiterate, no amount of signages will help.

 

Please maintain a less cosy relationship with your phone. It can dehumanise you and cause you to be less alert to the surroundings and one day soon we might read of an unfortunate incident of one who got electrocuted because he swam with phone in hand. I hope not.

 

 

Safe ride.

[Tohto]

I just ask my daughter who turn 17 today. What she think about this case?

She replied that guy had no brain.

[Evillusion]

Agreed that the rail and glass panel already serve as an indication of " no entry border " in normal situation; but in freak case / incident, people may have though just stepping over for the mere few seconds to retrieve their item is safe. Not many are aware which structure ( parapets/ cover ) are able to withstand load. It will be at least a warning to everyone.

not saying what i am about to write is correct.....but if that boy was given a tight slap when he was younger for trying such a stunt i wont think he would have tried crossing over the glass panel let alone walking on such a structure. Our society now prefer the soft approach but there are many stupid accidents happening every now and then.....the girl who died trying parkour is such! Not that i condone violence hor! But for some kids thats the only way they will learn!

[RH1667]

not saying what i am about to write is correct.....but if that boy was given a tight slap when he was younger for trying such a stunt i wont think he would have tried crossing over the glass panel let alone walking on such a structure. Our society now prefer the soft approach but there are many stupid accidents happening every now and then.....the girl who died trying parkour is such! Not that i condone violence hor! But for some kids thats the only way they will learn!

I also old school towards my boy when he is a kid, while I am no expert or professional to comment if it is right or wrong, I would say it had worked well on myself and my boy.

Have a good weekend Encik !

[Fcw75]

While I don't think the mall is negligent, I think it is a good preventive measure to have clear sign / label warning people that the parapet/ cover or any protrusion part is not fit for taking load.

Can stick the yellow and black tape on the parquet as a warning and also put DO NOT STEP wording on it.

 

Saw the words on the wings of plane too.

[Evillusion]

I also old school towards my boy when he is a kid, while I am no expert or professional to comment if it is right or wrong, I would say it had worked well on myself and my boy.

Have a good weekend Encik !

yup...mine too! I wont resort to violence on a spur....i oni caned my son once when he was young....he used something to beat a guest's son. As i do not want to make him violent prone i resorted to not playing with him or just ignore him when he does something seriously wrong.....1 month was the longest i ignore him and the day i talked to him he cried buckets. Edited February 25, 2017 by Eviilusion

[13177]

4th floor at shopping mall usually is much higher than normal hdb height. Anyway, RIP.

[Kopites]

Hmm..Me too did tried the ignore tactic on my boy. Not all the times it work. Sometimes he would just go play on his tablet. He pretty stubborn...Wifey like father like son.

 

As for this case..When young me and mate too climb into big drain. Climb over balcony...Pretty many dangerous stunts come to think of it now.

 

As for this case can we ourselves resist the temptation to retreat the phone..If we think so highly of our physical capability? We have all seem adult dangerously cleaning window..Rushing across traffic junction etc. Let not jump into conclusion what supposed or not supposed to be done. In this case a tragic accident leading to the death of a young life. Everyone around him will feel the pain and hurt. Freak accident can happen to everyone here. So let spare some thoughts to his family and friends.

 

Lastly..merely for info..If happened such scenario one can always seek the assistant from mall security. They do has an equipment to retreat. Is a long metal rod with some click on one end...according to wifey. She has seem clean/security retreating items for shoppers.

Edited February 25, 2017 by Kopites

[Still2016]

yup...mine too! I wont resort to violence on a spur....i oni caned my son once when he was young....he used something to beat a guest's son. As i do not want to make him violent prone i resorted to not playing with him or just ignore him when he does something seriously wrong.....1 month was the longest i ignore him and the day i talked to him he cried buckets.

 

 

I thank God you not my father. Otherwise I self ownself check ownself and admit myself to IMH.

 

 

PS I agree with you completely, this Western definition of Child Abuse gone abit too far. We adults should set examples for our kids. A simple spank on the backside, adult parent needs to go to jail. They never think about the subsequent consequences such as destroying the relationship better child and parent. The West at Guantanamo what did they to the prisoners. How are our impressionable kids (teenage) going to take home ... what kid of message?

[Ender]

if you look at the damage, i believe the parapet should be able to hold a light weight person. However i wonder did the boy jump onto it instead of climb over and crawl on top slowly.

 

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Can see the two hand print there.. 

[Jman888]

I just ask my daughter who turn 17 today. What she think about this case?

She replied that guy had no brain.

 

Happy birthday to your princess

[Noob79]

yup, it will be a difficult time for the immediate family, let refrain from passing unnecessary comments... 

 

 

Sad news .....
RIP, boy ....
And hope his parents will ride over this period ....

 

[Bezbee]

I just ask my daughter who turn 17 today. What she think about this case?

She replied that guy had no brain.

On hindsight it is easy to criticize any situation/person.

 

The teen made a mistake to retrieve his mobile on the parapet and that cost him his life.

 

Let's not pass such remark on the deceased.

 

May his soul find peace in heaven and deepest condolences to his parents.