Lets talk about China history 上下五千年

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16 hours ago, Weez911 said:

Thanks for sharing bro. 

I have gone to both 安溪 and 永春 in Fujian, because my father's family is from 安溪, while my mom's family is from 永春. Both 县 are next to each other. I like Fujian because of the food there, and they are so cheap! At RMB 10, we can have a big bowl of rice with a meat dish. Their oyster omelette, peanut soup, taro balls, braised beef, pork belly, street snacks are all yummy. I'm also very surprised that their street food hawkers allow mobile payment.

Hopefully will go back again soon. I have a small business at Shanghai and spend some of my time there. Shanghai is fantastic.

My father side is from 新会 while my mother side is from 鹤山, both in Guangdong. I've also followed my folks back to see the old houses and relatives who still live there. My mother's side house is very run-down as noone has been taking care of it, while my father's side one has just been turned into a mini local museum of sort, by the Govt, to commemorate my late grandfather's patriotism. My father has been asking me to go and take a look, as it hasn't been converted yet when i last went in 2012.

Food wise, China is known to eat anything that has 4 legs. I remember during my first trip in 1995, i was told - after a meal - that i'd eaten worms, rabbit and ... dog meat!!!

RMB10 for rice with meat is cheap leh. Now still got so cheap?

I've been to Beijing, 避暑山庄，九寨沟，峨眉山，长江三峡 (before it was flooded)，深圳，but last trip was in 2012, before the mobile payment got started. But i remember that even on my first trip there is 1995, i saw more Lexus LS460 in Guangdong than in SG, so i was already quite impressed with China. I'm sure in Shanghai it's far more advanced than anything i can imagine now.

In fact, just spoke to wife that we should bring the kids to go to Beijing sometime in the future, to look at the Great Wall. But must avoid China peak period - no joke that... 😅

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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3796172

 

Not scared trump grab the kitty cat 😛

 

Kinda hypocritical he never keep his daughter home.. like our elites say all schools same.. but their own kids always different. 

[Lala81]

Getting fixed. 

Gui Minhai: Hong Kong bookseller gets 10 years jail - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51624433

[jeffry]

On 2/15/2017 at 11:26 AM, Mustank said:

Issit true that the emperor send zheng he south to look for and finish off his brother?

i dont understand

 

[inlinesix]

The following message purportedly spread by Chen Ping, Yang Kuang TV boss, on wechat.  It is banned now.

http://www.mychinese.news/2020/03/blog-post_15.html

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转：关于立即召开紧急政治局扩大会议的建议

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鉴于当前新冠疫情、国内经济与国际关系的严峻局面，强烈呼吁紧急召开政治局扩大会议，讨论习近平的问题。政治局扩大会议有关由现任政治局委员及常委、历届健在的政治局常委、国务院副总理以上、现任及历任最高法院院长、现任及历任最高检察院检察长、现任及历任人大委员长、副委员长、现任及历任政协主席与副主席参加。会议讨论习近平自执政以来的功过评价，是否适合继续担任国家主席、共产党总书记及军委主席的职务的议题。鉴于习近平本人是会议讨论的当事人，不宜再担任会议的任何职务。建议由李克强、汪洋、王歧山三人组成政治局扩大会议领导小组，负责会议的各项工作。

紧急政治局扩大会议，应讨论习近平执政以来的外交路线与外交政策，是否应该明确回到邓小平同志主张的韬光养晦路线。讨论习近平执政以来，中国的国际关系与国际环境是好转了，还是恶化了？在国际上四面树敌、恶化对美关系对中国的发展是有利，还是不利？不顾国内实际情况，对非洲等落后国家大撒币对中国自身的发展与国际关系是不是正确？

在经济问题上，应该讨论“国进民退”，还是“民进国退”？经济路线是否应该回到朱镕基总理制定的大力发展民营经济，缩减不具效率的国有企业？是应该坚持市场导向，还是计划导向？国家对与经济的介入程度到底应该遵循什么界限与原则？国企应该不应该与民企争利？金融的监管是不是应该透明？

在政治上，明确党大还是法大？明确执政党能否超越宪法？宪法规定的各种权利是不是应该落实执行？为了短期的稳定是否可以牺牲公民的基本权利？是否实现新闻自由与言论自由？是否允许民间办媒体？法治如何实行？司法是否应该独立？公民是否能够批评政府？媒体与舆论监督有没有必要？党政是否应该分开？私人财产是不是应该得到保护？官员财产是否应该公开？地方官员是否应该由当地人民决定、对当地人民负责？地方是否应该实行一定程度的自治？政府也没有财产权？

在对台湾关系，到底是统一重要还是和平重要？是国家的形式重要，还是国民的福祉重要？在对香港问题上，是香港的繁荣重要，还是中央的权威重要？是否应该允许香港实行完全的地方选举？

对习近平执政以来工作的评价，其重要性不亚于打倒四人帮。对习近平执政路线的评价，其意义应该高于十一届三中全会的历史定位。👍

In view of the current severe situation of the new crown epidemic, the domestic economy and the severe situation of international relations, it is strongly called for the urgent convening of an enlarged Politburo meeting to discuss Xi Jinping's issue. The Politburo Enlarged Conference includes current members and members of the Politburo, past members of the Politburo Standing Committee, deputy prime ministers and above, current and former presidents of the Supreme Court, current and former prosecutors of the Supreme People's Procuratorate, current and former NPC chairpersons, and vice members The current and previous CPPCC Chairman and Vice-Chairmen participated. The meeting discussed whether Xi Jinping's merit evaluation since he took office is suitable for continuing to serve as the chairman of the country, general secretary of the Communist Party, and chairman of the military commission. Given that Xi Jinping himself was the party involved in the meeting, he should not hold any position in the meeting. It is suggested that Li Keqiang, Wang Yang and Wang Qishan should form the Politburo Enlarged Meeting Leadership Group to take charge of the work of the meeting.

The emergency Politburo enlargement meeting should discuss whether Xi Jinping's diplomatic line and foreign policy since he came to power, and whether it should be clear to return to the obscurity line proposed by Comrade Deng Xiaoping. Discuss Has China's international relations and international environment improved or worsened since Xi Jinping came to power? Building enemies on all sides and deteriorating US relations are good or bad for China's development? Regardless of the actual situation in the country, is it true that the large dollar spread to backward countries such as Africa is correct for China's own development and international relations?

On economic issues, should we discuss "regression of the country into the country" or "retreat of the country into the country"? Should the economic line go back to Premier Zhu Rongji's efforts to develop the private economy and reduce the inefficient state-owned enterprises? Should we stick to market orientation or plan orientation? What boundaries and principles should the state be involved in with the economy? Should state-owned enterprises compete with private enterprises? Should financial regulation be transparent?

Politically, is it clear whether the Party or France University? Is it clear that the ruling party can go beyond the constitution? Should the rights stipulated in the Constitution be implemented? Can the basic rights of citizens be sacrificed for short-term stability? Is freedom of the press and freedom of speech realized? Are private media allowed? How does the rule of law work? Should the justice be independent? Can citizens criticize the government? Is media and opinion supervision necessary? Should the party and government be separated? Should private property be protected? Should official property be made public? Should local officials be determined and accountable to local people? Should local governments practice a certain degree of autonomy? Does the government have no property rights?

In relations with Taiwan, is reunification important or peace important? Is the form of the state important, or is the well-being of the people important? On the issue of Hong Kong, is Hong Kong's prosperity important or is the central authority important? Should Hong Kong be allowed to implement full local elections?

The evaluation of Xi Jinping's work since he took office is as important as bringing down the Gang of Four. The evaluation of Xi Jinping's ruling line should be more significant than the historical positioning of the Third Plenary Session of the 11th Central Committee. 👍

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1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

On economic issues, should we discuss "regression of the country into the country" or "retreat of the country into the country"?

 Google translate bug ?🤔

 

Still quite amazing such an article could come out... there's much self reflection going on it seems.

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, Playtime said:

 Google translate bug ?🤔

 

Still quite amazing such an article could come out... there's much self reflection going on it seems.

I knew about this article from Taiwan talkshow.

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googling around

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[Yuan]

On 9/22/2019 at 9:59 AM, Lala81 said:

Who don't like yuan lol. 

My reply after 8 months, who else like me? 😎

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this is not the first to discuss this very taboo part of ccp history.

of cos... cant do it in china.

 

 

 

[Yuan]

I think some people here might have watched this. This is a 1999 production in China. It depicted the life of Yongzheng Emperor, one of the earlier but greatest Qing Emperors. 

It followed closely to what was recorded in history to some extent. There were a few deviations here and there.

The production has a total of 44 episodes. So you can view this if you can't sleep or bored during this CB when you have some interest in Qing dynasty history. 

[Lala81]

OK. This is a highly insightful series of videos on the issues facing China. It tries to be quite neutral from a western perspective. 

Series of 4 videos and the last video ties it all up. Got a bonus video but that's only for special sign ups. 

It leaves out xinjiang, communist party antics etc. Just focus on geography, economics and trends. Excellent stuff. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Lala81

[inlinesix]

@Lala81 First 3 video is something rarely reported in major news media.

With regards to China population, statistics department supposed to announce latest number based on census last month. It was announced this week. There was a lot of speculation why there was a delay.

[Lala81]

13 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

@Lala81 First 3 video is something rarely reported in major news media.

With regards to China population, statistics department supposed to announce latest number based on census last month. It was announced this week. There was a lot of speculation why there was a delay.

Yes. I note some reports that say the numbers don't tally. But I don't really follow.

Ok lah youtube videos good for people like me who don't follow China news closely.

With a longer length video, it can explore the issues with more depth and graphs. And no need to have a quick summary like news articles which would otherwise be a huge WOT. 

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Lala81

[Beregond]

new history of china in the making

China's Zhurong rover makes history with Mars landing

It makes China the first country to carry out an orbiting, landing and roving operation during its first mission to Mars - a feat unmatched by the only other two nations to reach the Red Planet, the US and Russia.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/china-mars-landing-zhurong-rover-successful-space-14813910

still need to see if can complete mission

Edited May 15, 2021 by Beregond

[mersaylee]

16 hours ago, Lala81 said:

OK. This is a highly insightful series of videos on the issues facing China. It tries to be quite neutral from a western perspective. 

Series of 4 videos and the last video ties it all up. Got a bonus video but that's only for special sign ups. 

It leaves out xinjiang, communist party antics etc. Just focus on geography, economics and trends. Excellent stuff. 

 

 

 

 

 

Great video clips...particularly like the last one where it insinuated wang as a barking dog😁