Aston Martin DB11, what do you guys think?

[Aventafreak]

[Old-driver]

I think.... i cannot afford 

[1fast1]

Seen it in person, got the guided tour. Taken on its merits, it's not a bad car at all, but way overpriced for the badge and the performance. The DB11 doesn't even get a DCT, which I consider to be *the* supercar choice. The ZF 8 speed is a remarkable auto trans, but I'm glad it's in my M140i and not my AMG GT, for instance.

 

Astons in general are quite slow for the pricetag and the name. Only exceptions are the Vulcan and the AM RB 001.

[Johnny86]

Think what, no need to think

[Evillusion]

The sound also i cannot afford....

[BanCoe]

..... TS what is the fuel consumption  ..... i very interested to buy    

[7hm]

The boot... I think it's lower than the average saloon car... carwow sure rate highly for practicality   
 

I think.... i cannot afford 

 
I think... me too!
 

Seen it in person, got the guided tour. Taken on its merits, it's not a bad car at all, but way overpriced for the badge and the performance. The DB11 doesn't even get a DCT, which I consider to be *the* supercar choice. The ZF 8 speed is a remarkable auto trans, but I'm glad it's in my M140i and not my AMG GT, for instance.
 
Astons in general are quite slow for the pricetag and the name. Only exceptions are the Vulcan and the AM RB 001.

 
I figured Astons were also a lot about the touring distance comfort, but I wouldn't know if they actually were better in that regard.
 
Aston Martin's also been slow to get non-essential systems like infotainment to not-crappy levels.

Edited February 7, 2017 by 7hm

[Blackyv]

I think James Bond will like it...

[inlinesix]

Seen it in person, got the guided tour. Taken on its merits, it's not a bad car at all, but way overpriced for the badge and the performance. The DB11 doesn't even get a DCT, which I consider to be *the* supercar choice. The ZF 8 speed is a remarkable auto trans, but I'm glad it's in my M140i and not my AMG GT, for instance.

 

Astons in general are quite slow for the pricetag and the name. Only exceptions are the Vulcan and the AM RB 001.

 

I would say AM in general is a GT rather than a sports car.

 

On the other hand, F12/GTC Gran Lusso is styled like a GT.  But it is sports car indeed.

 

[1fast1]

I would say AM in general is a GT rather than a sports car.

 

On the other hand, F12/GTC Gran Lusso is styled like a GT.  But it is sports car indeed.

 

 

What definitions of GT and sports car are you using?

 

To be frank, I don't think there's a hard and fast definition of what a GT (grand tourer) is vs a "sports car". Many GTs are considered sports cars.

 

In general, higher end GT models are expected to perform like sports cars. They may be a little "softer", but that's just a distinction for the track.

 

Astons are slow for the price no matter whether you consider them GTs or sports car or what-not. I've driven both V8 and V12 Vantage models, which both left me unsatisfied. The V8 was severely lacking in grunt. The V12 was liveable (not really fast, mind you, but tolerable for a daily), but both the V8 and the V12 cars had terrible transmissions. Similar in principle to the single clutch gearbox in my F430, but somehow even crappier. I managed to live with the F430 transmission by timing my throttle blips with the downshifts (rev matching) which made the F430 shifts in race mode quite perfect, but for some weird reason, that made the shifts even slower and rougher in the Aston Martin. It was like the syncro (or whatever the equivalent was in that transmission) was actively fighting the driver.

 

Basically, I couldn't find a smooth way (smooth enough by my reckoning) to drive that car hard. I just didn't like either car I drove.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Turboflat4

[DACH]

It’s Aston Martin’s new flagship: the DB11 AMR

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/its-aston-martins-new-flagship-db11-amr

 

Less than two years since the DB11 V12 heralded in a new era of rapid expansion for Aston Martin, it’s being replaced… with this. It’s called the DB11 AMR and claims to bring “a new dimension of race-inspired dynamism and performance to the DB11 family.”

Really, it’s a detailed makeover of Aston’s V12 flagship addressing two years of customer and media feedback. In other words, this isn’t a truly hardcore GT – that’s being saved for the DB11-based Vanquish replacement (now badged DBS Superleggera) due later this year. But don’t be fooled, slow it is not.

Power from the twin-turbo 5.2-litre V12 climbs by 30bhp to 630bhp, the 0-62mph time drops by 0.2sec to 3.7sec and the top speed increases by 8mph to 208mph. Just give that another read… 208mph in a car CEO Andy Palmer still refers to as a “consummate GT.” The world has gone mad.

Of more interest to keen helmspersons will be the tweaks to the chassis, eight-speed auto and exhaust. We’re fans of the outgoing DB11’s supple, easy-going character, but the body control was never quite as taught as such a Herculean power output deserved.

Nerdy details are scarce, but Aston says there’s now “a greater sense of connection without harming the supple ride, a new shift calibration for the transmission and a slightly more vocal exhaust note.” We say, good news, except for the price because that too has swollen to a punchy £174,995, a £17,095 increase. The 493bhp DB11 V8 is yours for £144,900 don’t forget.

 

Visually, you can spot an AMR (a badge with links to Aston’s racing team, and already used on special editions of the previous-generation Vantage and the mad track-only Valkrie AMR Pro concept, since you asked) via its dark detailing. All the brightwork is replaced with gloss-black or carbon-fibre trim, the tail lamps and exhaust tips are smoked, and the theme continues inside with monotone leather and Alcantara… and a lime stripe.

If you really want to blow the bank, and upset the taste police, there’s the special edition pictured above, limited to 100 units costing £201,995 each. Unleash your inner extrovert with its Stirling green and lime livery, and yet more luminous lime on the inside.

So what do we think? Is Aston’s new V12 flagship the one to go for, or is it the Vantage that tickles your pickle?

[DACH]

Behold: the new 715bhp Aston Martin DBS Superleggera

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/behold-new-715bhp-aston-martin-dbs-superleggera-new

 

For all those whooping and hollering that the 600bhp DB11 was too soft and too slow (all three of you), allow us to introduce its evil twin – the new Aston Martin DBS Superleggera. Effectively a replacement for the Vanquish S, it revives a badge last seen on the car James Bond barrel-rolled in Casino Royale in 2006, then adds the Superleggera suffix – a nod to the “innovative lightweight construction methods pioneered by Italian coachbuilder, Touring”.

Yet this is no hollowed-out racer. Full carbon-fibre body panels help to make it 72kg lighter than the DB11 V12, but with a kerbweight of 1,800kg, give or take a robust lunch, it’s still firmly a GT… albeit a super one. By simply tweaking the ECU and fitting a freer-flowing (and significantly noisier) quad-tipped exhaust system, 715bhp and 664lb ft of torque have been liberated from the remarkably unstressed 5.2-litre twin-turbo V12, and sent to the rear tyres via a carbon-fibre propshaft and an eight-speed auto. That’s 115bhp and 148lb ft – a whole Golf 1.4 TSI – more than the DB11.

Get enough heat in the 305-section Pirelli P Zeros, find yourself an abandoned airfield and the DBS will blitz 0–62mph in 3.4 seconds, 0–100mph in 6.4 and keep going until 211mph – the same top speed as its most natural rival, the 789bhp Ferrari 812 Superfast. Should you find yourself at 211mph in a DBS Superleggera, you’ll be pleased to hear it has latest-gen carbon-ceramic brakes measuring 410mm at the front and 360mm at the rear.

Should you encounter a corner, you’ll also be pleased to hear that the DBS picks up where the subtly honed DB11 AMR left off. The adaptive suspension sits 5mm lower, with bespoke geometry and increased front and rear camber, while a mechanical differential and torque vectoring by braking help you get that prodigious power onto the road. If all that means nothing to you, allow us to translate: the DBS should feel pointier, more alert and stay flatter in the bends.

 

[Hamburger]

Can use DBS card for discount?