KIA Stinger GT

[Lava]

On ‎9‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 10:27 PM, car50 said:

Depends on driving habits and pattern

If gentle driver both are good cars, but for younger guys who like to floor the car and zoom zoom, then better not choose the mazda6

Honestly, cant really compare Stinger with Maz 6. Not just the price. its different level 

 

I will go for the new 520Li

[Fuse01]

27 minutes ago, Lava said:

I will go for the new 520Li

how much is that now ?

[Lava]

43 minutes ago, Fuse01 said:

how much is that now ?

$234 if you are willing to get the car used for the WTA.

[jasonayt]

1 hour ago, Fuse01 said:

how much is that now ?

3.3 @ 200k brand new and double the hp of 520. if u want similar performance on a conti u have to pay a 6 digit premium for that badge.

[Lava]

8 minutes ago, jasonayt said:

3.3 @ 200k brand new and double the hp of 520. if u want similar performance on a conti u have to pay a 6 digit premium for that badge.

bro different lah, brand, status, premium, refinement...

no doubt that kia has a higher hp but that's not what I am looking for.

[Cheefarn]

2 hours ago, jasonayt said:

3.3 @ 200k brand new and double the hp of 520. if u want similar performance on a conti u have to pay a 6 digit premium for that badge.

You need at least 540i to match Stinger 3.3 powess. And even then, you can't get 510NM of torque... 

Thats in solid diesel engine territory

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Cheefarn said:

You need at least 540i to match Stinger 3.3 powess. And even then, you can't get 510NM of torque... 

Thats in solid diesel engine territory

G20 540 uses Version 1 of B58.

If 540 uses Version 2, 540 will have higher hp but lower torque.

Kia uses 2 turbo while BMW uses 1 turbo.

[Hamburger]

its not about numbers now. 

 

at this level, its the badge.

[Fat_slayer]

5 hours ago, Lava said:

bro different lah, brand, status, premium, refinement...

no doubt that kia has a higher hp but that's not what I am looking for.

Driving a luxury brand car with low end specs is very demoralising... hahaha...

I am a fine example as my current car is a X3 sdrive20i (most on the road are the higher spec Xdrive30i)... its slow off the line and without certain function.  The seats are also not genuine leather.  I am trying to find "economical" ways to upgrade its power output.

I "upgraded" from a VW Passat exclusiveline which has nappa leather seats with front ventilation and massage functions , premium Dynaudio sound system in addition to 220bhp.... still miss my ex ride especially the full digital metering cluster... hahaha

My point is, brand is not that important compared to specs.... just personal opinion only.

[jasonayt]

1 hour ago, Hamburger said:

its not about numbers now. 

 

at this level, its the badge.

agree. and people are willing to pay 5-6 digits premium. honestly within the same price range i don't see any refinement in the entry level contis.

putting conti aside, at 150k price range for the 2.0 nothing in the japanese market comes close either.

you could get hot hatches like cupra or i30n at around the same price but u lose practicality.

end of the day. kia has done a great job in product placement. too bad many singaporeans are badge conscious.

[Cheefarn]

On 9/13/2019 at 3:55 PM, Davidtch said:

G20 540 uses Version 1 of B58.

If 540 uses Version 2, 540 will have higher hp but lower torque.

Kia uses 2 turbo while BMW uses 1 turbo.

twin smaller volume turbochargers are generally more efficient than a single large turbine. 

There's inherently less turbo lag since the smaller turbines has smaller inertia and requires less energy to turn itself over. And since each volume is smaller, it can reach max compression much quicker than a single large turbo unit. 

Superchargers are diff ball game though. 

[Cheefarn]

On 9/13/2019 at 3:55 PM, Davidtch said:

G20 540 uses Version 1 of B58.

If 540 uses Version 2, 540 will have higher hp but lower torque.

Kia uses 2 turbo while BMW uses 1 turbo.

Which brings us to the obvious qns. How much is the new G20 540i in SG? 

And how's BMW overall reliability and running cost?

[Fuse01]

    
540i M Sport (A)
$369,888    spacer    spacer
$31,900 /yr    13.9km/L    335bhp    8-speed (A) 

 

different class of car ... wat the waiting time for a 3.3 kia now?

 

[Cheefarn]

26 minutes ago, Fuse01 said:

    
540i M Sport (A)
$369,888    spacer    spacer
$31,900 /yr    13.9km/L    335bhp    8-speed (A) 

 

different class of car ... wat the waiting time for a 3.3 kia now?

 

about 2-3 mths. C n C doesnt keep any stocks in SG. If u want one, they will order 1 for you

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Cheefarn said:

twin smaller volume turbochargers are generally more efficient than a single large turbine. 

There's inherently less turbo lag since the smaller turbines has smaller inertia and requires less energy to turn itself over. And since each volume is smaller, it can reach max compression much quicker than a single large turbo unit. 

Superchargers are diff ball game though. 

BMW has been using twin scroll turbo for some time liao.

[Beregond]

1 hour ago, Cheefarn said:

Which brings us to the obvious qns. How much is the new G20 540i in SG? 

And how's BMW overall reliability and running cost?

if i buy a brand new 540i, i wont bother so much about running cost or reliability😁

[SZ_ford]

On 9/13/2019 at 9:58 AM, Lava said:

I will go for the new 520Li

bro u very cute, suddenly pop a 520 here

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Cheefarn said:

Which brings us to the obvious qns. How much is the new G20 540i in SG? 

And how's BMW overall reliability and running cost?

That 2 questions you have ask radx.

I don’t think it will be much difference btw both.