Dilemma 5th Gear November 25, 2016 Share November 25, 2016 I take everything 50/50 until more information is available. Gave the person next to me a headache. You're ok if there is nothing wrong with you compared with previous. sadly after these few years, i'm having trouble standing up. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear November 25, 2016 Share November 25, 2016 sadly after these few years, i'm having trouble standing up. Perhaps look into using aluminium foil as a shield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 1st Gear November 26, 2016 Share November 26, 2016 witscience is a satire site. You know, fake news. It also has an article about scientific proof on the existence of God. Anybody with any casual understanding of SAR will know the numbers are pure nonsense. DC does not transmit, let alone absorb. http://realorsatire.com/witscience-org/ Some numbers from a study. Dell laptop computer, sitting on lap: SAR+ 0.0012 W/kg1000W Microwave Oven, 2″ from vents: SAR+ 0.97 W/kgApple iPhone 5S, 5mm from head: SAR+ 1.114 W/kg 2014 Toyota Prius V: SAR+ 4.09 W/kg 2014 Chevrolet Volt: SAR+ 4.11 W/kg2014 Honda CR-Z: SAR+ 4.23 W/kg2014 Ford Fusion Energi: SAR+ 5.36 W/kg http://witscience.org/hybrid-cars-pose-moderate-cancer-risk-new-study-confirms/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear November 26, 2016 Share November 26, 2016 witscience is a satire site. You know, fake news. It also has an article about scientific proof on the existence of God. Anybody with any casual understanding of SAR will know the numbers are pure nonsense. DC does not transmit, let alone absorb. http://realorsatire.com/witscience-org/ Fake or not, does't mean the issue is not there. My interest in that "fake" website is how real the numbers are. Perhaps someone may say this website is also "fake" http://www.saferemr.com/2014/07/shouldnt-hybrid-and-electric-cars-be-re.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged November 26, 2016 Share November 26, 2016 although all our high tension power cables are underground, there are plenty of transformers to step up down the voltages everywhere. I wonder have you been able to aviod living or working next to one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 1st Gear December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 Fake or not, does't mean the issue is not there. My interest in that "fake" website is how real the numbers are. Perhaps someone may say this website is also "fake" http://www.saferemr.com/2014/07/shouldnt-hybrid-and-electric-cars-be-re.html So Wyoming Institute of Technology does not exist but the numbers they published are "real".... From the link you pasted: “In this series of tests, we found no evidence that hybrids expose drivers to significantly more EMF than do conventional cars. Consider this myth, busted.” Like I said, I am not going to tell you there is no risk. If you are genuinely afraid, stop using your cellphone first, because whatever the hybrid car has, the cellphone has more, in greater density and proximity. Stop people around you from using cellphones too. Stop driving. Oh, and move to Mars, because the Earth is one huge electromagnetic field... you know how a compass works right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 So Wyoming Institute of Technology does not exist but the numbers they published are "real".... From the link you pasted: “In this series of tests, we found no evidence that hybrids expose drivers to significantly more EMF than do conventional cars. Consider this myth, busted.” Like I said, I am not going to tell you there is no risk. If you are genuinely afraid, stop using your cellphone first, because whatever the hybrid car has, the cellphone has more, in greater density and proximity. Stop people around you from using cellphones too. Stop driving. Oh, and move to Mars, because the Earth is one huge electromagnetic field... you know how a compass works right? I hope those affected do not know you. Good luck ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear December 1, 2016 Share December 1, 2016 although all our high tension power cables are underground, there are plenty of transformers to step up down the voltages everywhere. I wonder have you been able to aviod living or working next to one? Another can of worms. This one must use compass. Personally, this one I know more of the unreal than real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged December 2, 2016 Share December 2, 2016 Another can of worms. This one must use compass. Personally, this one I know more of the unreal than real. bro, have you tried sitting next to a high tension tranformer room. 22kv type using a CRT screen? haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear December 2, 2016 Share December 2, 2016 bro, have you tried sitting next to a high tension tranformer room. 22kv type using a CRT screen? haha You don't even need to be so close, just need to be a floor below a computer facility with a CRT monitor. The quality of the monitor does matter, it is price-vs-performance. P.S. the earth magnetic field do affect analog CRT monitors. One may need to face a certain direction ( fengshui? ) for that perfect square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRideFD3 Neutral Newbie May 24, 2017 Share May 24, 2017 Generally, yes, potentially can cause cancer these electromagnetic radiation. Thanks, good to bring up this thread, will definitely increase awareness to the public and hopefully more responsibility from car manufacturer. Some specific updates: Regarding patients with pacemaker or AICD (Automatic Implantable Cardioverter-Defebrillator). In some cases, implanted devices may sense signals from electrical or magnetic objects and misinterpreted them as potential distress coming from the patient's heart. Luis R. Scott, M.D., Cardiologist, and Fernando Tondato, M.D., Cardiology Fellow, both of Mayo Clinic in Arizona and the study's lead investigators, called for additional study. They said that although the study results revealed that the car tested did not generate clinically relevant amounts of EMI and that the car is safe for patients with implanted devices, https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130310163805.htm http://weeksmd.com/2014/12/hybrid-electric-cars-cancer/ Design guidelines to reduce the magnetic field in electric vehicles SINTEF, Jan 6, 2014 Based on the measurements and on extensive simulation work the project arrived on the following design guidelines to, if necessary, minimize the magnetic field in electric vehicles. Cables For any DC cable carrying significant amount of current, it should be made in the form of a twisted pair so that the currents in the pair always flow in the opposite directions. This will minimise its EMF emission. For three-phase AC cables, three wires should be twisted and made as close as possible so as to minimise its EMF emission. All power cables should be positioned as far away as possible from the passenger seat area, and their layout should not form a loop. If cable distance is less than 200mm away from the passenger seats, some forms of shielding should be adopted. A thin layer of ferromagnetic shield is recommended as this is cost-effective solution for the reduction of EMF emission as well EMI emission. Where possible, power cables should be laid such a way that they are separated from the passenger seat area by a steel sheet, e.g., under a steel metallic chassis, or inside a steel trunk. MotorsWhere possible, the motor should be installed farther away from the passenger seat area, and its rotation axis should not point to the seat region. If weight permits, the motor housing should be made of steel, rather than aluminium, as the former has a much better shielding effect. If the distance of the motor and passenger seat area is less than 500mm, some forms of shielding should be employed. For example, a steel plate could be placed between the motor and the passenger seat region Motor housing should be electrically well connected to the vehicle metallic chassis to minimise any electrical potential. Inverter and motor should be mounted as close as possible to each other to minimise the cable length between the two. BatteriesSince batteries are distributed, the currents in the batteries and in the interconnectors may become a significant source for EMF emission, they should be place as far away as possible from the passenger seat areas. If the distance between the battery and passenger seat area is less than 200mm, steel shields should be used to separate the batteries and the seating area. The cables connecting battery cells should not form a loop, and where possible, the interconnectors for the positive polarity should be as close as possible to those of the negative polarity. Good objective & well researched guide to understand about EMF and hybrid effects on health.As an engineer before, i can say that there are adequate safeguards and tests done, especially these cars are imported into developed and well regulated countries like Britain and USA. Also dont forget they need many monitoring and tests approved by the various Boards of automotive and safety industries. So please put your anxiety to rests...and comment objectively with proven guides. My 2 cents worth.. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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