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[Vratenza]

Real question:

 

Erm how do you know is still in good working condition until you use it?

 

Maybe the gauge needle got rusted to that position liao?

 

 

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:20 AM, Adrianli said:

Photos of my 11 year old fire extinguisher. No expiry date on it. Still in good working condition.

 

Fire Extinguisher 001.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 002.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 003.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 004.jpg

 

[Kb27]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:24 AM, Lala81 said:

Oil fire cannot use extinguisher?

I checked the nearby DIY store. It's 50 dollars for a 2kg.

 

There are different class of fires, needing different types of extinguisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_class

 

Example, it's bad to use a class A extinguisher on oil fire.

Instead of dousing the flames, you would be spreading it by pushing it away.

 

You also don't want to use a water extinguisher on an electrical fire for obvious reason.

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:24 AM, Lala81 said:

Oil fire cannot use extinguisher?

I checked the nearby DIY store. It's 50 dollars for a 2kg.

 

Can. Oil fire is Class B.

 

Class A = Solid

Class B = Liquid

Class C = Gas

Class E = Electrical

[Lala81]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:34 AM, Kb27 said:

There are different class of fires, needing different types of extinguisher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_class

 

Example, it's bad to use a class A extinguisher on oil fire.

Instead of dousing the flames, you would be spreading it by pushing it away.

 

You also don't want to use a water extinguisher on an electrical fire for obvious reason.

 

But the extinguishers on this website are ABC Dry powder right? So good enough? or is a fire blanket still required?

 

Lol never bothered to know all these things before.

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:34 AM, Vratenza said:

Real question:

 

Erm how do you know is still in good working condition until you use it?

 

Maybe the gauge needle got rusted to that position liao?

 

It still weighs the same. Means, content still available inside.

 

Gauge needle not possible to be rusty cos it is filled with oil. See bubbles in the gauge, means oil present so needle will not rust. For steel to rust, it must be exposed to water and oxygen. Iron will then become iron oxide.

 

 

Feels like I giving chemistry lesson.

[Kb27]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:38 AM, Lala81 said:

But the extinguishers on this website are ABC Dry powder right? So good enough? or is a fire blanket still required?

 

Lol never bothered to know all these things before.

 

ABC dry powder can be used for most fire, except oil fire, like in a kitchen when a pot or pan full of cooking oil catches fire.

Instead of dousing the flame, you would be spreading it by pushing it all over the place.

 

Those in the navy would have experience a training which demo how a wrong use of extinguisher caused more harm in an oil fire.

 

There is a wet chemical extinguisher for that, but more expensive.

A fire blanket is the cheaper option for oil fire.

But you need to know how to use it.

You can't just throw the blanket and hope it reach the correct destination.

Check youtube on how to use.

 

Also, a fire which appears to be put out, can reignite due to the latent heat.

So you need to cool the material or wait and watch till the temperature drops to a lower degree.

 

Edited August 24, 2016 by Kb27

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:47 AM, Kb27 said:

ABC dry powder can be used for most fire, except oil fire, like in a kitchen when a pot or pan full of cooking oil catches fire.

Instead of dousing the flame, you would be spreading it by pushing it all over the place.

 

Those in the navy would have experience a training which demo how a wrong use of extinguisher caused more harm in an oil fire.

 

There is a wet chemical extinguisher for that, but more expensive.

A fire blanket is the cheaper option for oil fire.

But you need to know how to use it.

You can't just throw the blanket and hope it reach the correct destination.

Check youtube on how to use.

 

Also, a fire which appears to be put out, can reignite due to the latent heat.

So you need to cool the material or wait and watch till the temperature drops to a lower degree.

 

No leh.

 

I was trained at the ex-FFDC trainer in Sembawang camp and SCDF Mandai camp. We used foam extinguisher to extinguish oil pot fire. Main thing is not aim at the pot itself. Aim the side walls and let the foam flow and suffocate the fire.

[Kb27]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:57 AM, Adrianli said:

No leh.

 

I was trained at the ex-FFDC trainer in Sembawang camp and SCDF Mandai camp. We used foam extinguisher to extinguish oil pot fire. Main thing is not aim at the pot itself. Aim the side walls and let the foam flow and suffocate the fire.

 

They may have changed the training.

But for a layman without training, they would tend to aim a fire extinguisher directly at an oil fire.

[Vratenza]

Aaahh ok... did not look at extinguishers closely enough. Always have impression is that the gauge is air filled.

 

Now will know what to look out for when i buy one.

 

Thanks for the lesson!

 

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:40 AM, Adrianli said:

It still weighs the same. Means, content still available inside.

 

Gauge needle not possible to be rusty cos it is filled with oil. See bubbles in the gauge, means oil present so needle will not rust. For steel to rust, it must be exposed to water and oxygen. Iron will then become iron oxide.

 

 

Feels like I giving chemistry lesson.

 

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 3:04 AM, Kb27 said:

They may have changed the training.

But for a layman without training, they would tend to aim a fire extinguisher directly at an oil fire.

 

Not sure which year you attended. Mine was 1997 to 2003 at ex-FFDC and 2000 to 2003 at SCDF. Between 2000 to 2003, we alternate training between ex-FFDC and SCDF.

 

Training with SCDF instructors is scary. After each session, we are always completely soaked in water or our own sweat!!!

[Othello]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:24 AM, Lala81 said:

Oil fire cannot use extinguisher?

I checked the nearby DIY store. It's 50 dollars for a 2kg.

 

I sell Combat brand 2kg for $40 

[Lala81]

  On 8/24/2016 at 3:42 AM, Othello said:

I sell Combat brand 2kg for $40 

 

haha this kinda stuff, no point saving a few dollars for transportation/delivery cost.

I'll look around to see where is most convenient to buy. Reasonable price buy liao.

Not say i buying in bulk

[Kb27]

  On 8/24/2016 at 3:17 AM, Adrianli said:

Not sure which year you attended. Mine was 1997 to 2003 at ex-FFDC and 2000 to 2003 at SCDF. Between 2000 to 2003, we alternate training between ex-FFDC and SCDF.

 

Training with SCDF instructors is scary. After each session, we are always completely soaked in water or our own sweat!!!

 

1980, I think it was called School of naval training (Sembawang), SNT at that time.

ORD 1991.

[Count-Bracula]

  On 8/19/2016 at 7:26 AM, Kb27 said:

I buy from

http://www.fireextinguisher.sg/Fire-Extinguisher-Price-Singapore.html

 

2kg ABC dry Powder is recommended for house use.

 

I also bought the fire blanket, this is for oil fire, like in a kitchen.

 

Now they have a value pack which is quite good.

http://www.fireextinguisher.sg/Home-Value-Pack.html

Thanks bro! Lucky I saw your reply else I would have taken the one in the office  

[Count-Bracula]

  On 8/24/2016 at 2:20 AM, Adrianli said:

Photos of my 11 year old fire extinguisher. No expiry date on it. Still in good working condition.

 

Fire Extinguisher 001.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 002.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 003.jpg

 

Fire Extinguisher 004.jpg

Psssst! Are you sure?

[Kusje]

  On 8/19/2016 at 7:26 AM, Kb27 said:

I buy from

http://www.fireextinguisher.sg/Fire-Extinguisher-Price-Singapore.html

 

2kg ABC dry Powder is recommended for house use.

 

I also bought the fire blanket, this is for oil fire, like in a kitchen.

 

Now they have a value pack which is quite good.

http://www.fireextinguisher.sg/Home-Value-Pack.html

 

Better check your fire blanket.

 

Some a-hole manufacturers still using asbestos.

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 3:57 AM, Kb27 said:

1980, I think it was called School of naval training (Sembawang), SNT at that time.

ORD 1991.

 

During your time, I dont think the FFDC train centre is available yet. Now the FFDC training centre has been re-located to CNB liao. I have not been to this one.

[Adrianli]

  On 8/24/2016 at 4:16 AM, Count-Bracula said:

Psssst! Are you sure?

 

Very sure.