Swiber

[Ktglfc]

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:25 AM, Jamesc said:

The other benefit of clean renewable energy is that

 

it is labour intensive and that means a lot of new jobs. 

 

 

Clean energy meaning solar panels?

Quite a few companies on this liao ...

 

Anyway, maybe one day we will see all buildings' windows are made up solar panels ... then it will be really cool :)

[Kusje]

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:24 AM, Jamesc said:

This down turn in O&G is the perfect opportunity

 

for capital to be diverted from polluting energy

 

to move to clean renewable energy. This is capitalism

 

at its best. Diverting capital from non profitable to

 

profitable industries. Take advantage of change.

 

 

But this downturn is in itself created by excess supply so it is also detrimental to alternative energies.

 

thats why our pap is helping us to save the earth by increasing petrol tax and refusing to lower electricity prices.

[Ktglfc]

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:38 AM, Kusje said:

But this downturn is in itself created by excess supply so it is also detrimental to alternative energies.

 

thats why our pap is helping us to save the earth by increasing petrol tax and refusing to lower electricity prices.

 

 

We must thank them when they raise prices cos they know its affordable for us

[Vegas]

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:36 AM, Ktglfc said:

Clean energy meaning solar panels?

Quite a few companies on this liao ...

 

Anyway, maybe one day we will see all buildings' windows are made up solar panels ... then it will be really cool :)

solar is bad for earth.... not the sun, but the manufacturing of panels...

 

and so many of them went burst trying to lower the cost

 

water, wind (SG have none, cos we are too sheltered) and probably nuclear is the new energy

[Ktglfc]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:11 AM, Vegas said:

solar is bad for earth.... not the sun, but the manufacturing of panels...

 

and so many of them went burst trying to lower the cost

 

water, wind (SG have none, cos we are too sheltered) and probably nuclear is the new energy

 

 

That's true ...

And, now most of the solar panels can be leased from supplier here ...

 

We don't have much wind, left only water ... which we should be considered as expert ...

 

As for nuclear, hope we don't have this, as the impact will be great if there is a leak ....

[Jamesc]

With 5.5m people surely we have a lot of natural gas?

 

Wind and solar are the ones that come to mind but

 

there are so many more alternatives. We can lay 

 

piezoelectric wire on the roads, every time a car drives

 

over it, electricity is created. Just like those kids blinking

 

shoes. But the one we should start is connecting the hot

 

water pipe to the aircon condenser. Every time you on

 

the aircon you get free hot water for the shower.

 

Another one we have is geo thermal. Put a pipe deep into

 

the ground and use the heat from the earth's core and you

 

get free hot water. We also got access to the sea and can

 

put the snake there so tides and currents will move the snake

 

and create electricity. With so many people paying Pokemon Go

 

we need more energy now than ever.

 

  

[Jamesc]

I think we also need to strengthen our building code

 

to make energy efficient buildings. All windows should 

 

have film to keep the heat out. Showers with increase

 

pressure from air pumps to save water. With O&G down

 

this is the best time to look at renewable energy. This is

 

the dawn of the golden age of renewable energy.

 

We also need more free water. My glass of ice coke was

 

wet on the side, the glass wan't leaking so where did the

 

water come? The air? There is so much water in the air

 

and if we only took it out of the air we get a less humid and

 

sticky country and don't need to import so much of the stuff.

 

[Lala81]

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:25 AM, Jamesc said:

The other benefit of clean renewable energy is that

 

it is labour intensive and that means a lot of new jobs. 

 

 

Really?

 

 

LPG is in a glut phase now, expected to last till 2020.

 

Edited August 30, 2016 by Lala81

[Ktglfc]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:23 AM, Jamesc said:

With 5.5m people surely we have a lot of natural gas?

 

Wind and solar are the ones that come to mind but

 

there are so many more alternatives. We can lay 

 

piezoelectric wire on the roads, every time a car drives

 

over it, electricity is created. Just like those kids blinking

 

shoes. But the one we should start is connecting the hot

 

water pipe to the aircon condenser. Every time you on

 

the aircon you get free hot water for the shower.

 

Another one we have is geo thermal. Put a pipe deep into

 

the ground and use the heat from the earth's core and you

 

get free hot water. We also got access to the sea and can

 

put the snake there so tides and currents will move the snake

 

and create electricity. With so many people paying Pokemon Go

 

we need more energy now than ever.

 

  

 

 

Well thought, @Jamesc :))

[Lala81]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:16 AM, Ktglfc said:

That's true ...

And, now most of the solar panels can be leased from supplier here ...

 

We don't have much wind, left only water ... which we should be considered as expert ...

 

As for nuclear, hope we don't have this, as the impact will be great if there is a leak ....

 

Whole world solar industry went bottoms up after chinese started producing solar panels with massive govt subsidy. Below the europeans/american cost price.

Anyway for Europe, they mostly going to wind turbine. USA has solar energy but at small levels only and mostly at California.

 

The worldwide solar panel industry makes the O&G situation here look like masak masak only.

 

I believe years ago, EDB got this german solar company to setup some 2 billion dollar R&D and manufacturing facility here, but the industry went tits up after that. Never got to fruition.

 

Elon Musk recently bailed out his solar city company.

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:32 AM, Jamesc said:

I think we also need to strengthen our building code

 

to make energy efficient buildings. All windows should 

 

have film to keep the heat out. Showers with increase

 

pressure from air pumps to save water. With O&G down

 

this is the best time to look at renewable energy. This is

 

the dawn of the golden age of renewable energy.

 

We also need more free water. My glass of ice coke was

 

wet on the side, the glass wan't leaking so where did the

 

water come? The air? There is so much water in the air

 

and if we only took it out of the air we get a less humid and

 

sticky country and don't need to import so much of the stuff.

 

 

You much more optimistic than me.

 

Frankly if the world was more interested in clean energy, many of the engineering problems would have been reduced long ago.

Just that the $$ and self interest has always been elsewhere.

 

Too little, too late. 

 

  On 8/30/2016 at 1:38 AM, Kusje said:

But this downturn is in itself created by excess supply so it is also detrimental to alternative energies.

 

thats why our pap is helping us to save the earth by increasing petrol tax and refusing to lower electricity prices.

 

Our govt always help us prepare for WCS. They know rationing won't work in today's society.

Petrol is always expensive here in SG 

[Jamesc]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:43 AM, Lala81 said:

 

 

Elon Musk recently bailed out his solar city company.

 

 

 

I have a tip for Mr Elon Musk.

 

On my grandfather's bicycle he had a dynamo that powered his lights.

 

The faster he paddled the brighter the light.

 

Mr Musk should put a big dynamo on each of the wheels of his car.

 

The faster the car goes, the faster the wheels goes and more electricity 

 

is generated to recharge the car batteries. So to save the world electric

 

cars need to be driver faster to product more electricity so the batteries

 

don't run out.

 

[Lala81]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:51 AM, Jamesc said:

I have a tip for Mr Elon Musk.

 

On my grandfather's bicycle he had a dynamo that powered his lights.

 

The faster he paddled the brighter the light.

 

Mr Musk should put a big dynamo on each of the wheels of his car.

 

The faster the car goes, the faster the wheels goes and more electricity 

 

is generated to recharge the car batteries. So to save the world electric

 

cars need to be driver faster to product more electricity so the batteries

 

don't run out.

 

 

I think electric cars already use regenerative braking. Not sure about the teslas though.

[Ljlang]

  On 8/29/2016 at 4:46 PM, Blueray said:

Cash up or ship out: It's the big O&M squeeze post-Swiber

 

.....

 

These O&M players face four key challenges: high debt-to-equity gearing of over 100 per cent; low or negative cash flows; short-term debt of above S$100 million; and/or medium-term-note redemption deadlines running through 2019.

 

.....

 

- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/cash-or-ship-out-its-the-big-om-squeeze-post-swiber#sthash.eH7n3v7v.dpuf

 

Whoa,

 

there are four with notes due this year. Just tikam went to google about Marco Polo, I thought situation also precarious.   

[Sunny]

  On 8/27/2016 at 9:31 PM, Ktglfc said:

Yup ... On the surface, banks may look good but if these O&G companies can't service their loans and default, banks also die too ...

 

In the end, all will die in uncertain economies ...

 

The storm is brewing .... we will have to brave this one coming ....

 

 

[Voodooman]

  On 8/30/2016 at 2:32 AM, Jamesc said:

I think we also need to strengthen our building code

 

to make energy efficient buildings. All windows should

 

have film to keep the heat out. Showers with increase

 

pressure from air pumps to save water. With O&G down

 

this is the best time to look at renewable energy. This is

 

the dawn of the golden age of renewable energy.

 

We also need more free water. My glass of ice coke was

 

wet on the side, the glass wan't leaking so where did the

 

water come? The air? There is so much water in the air

 

and if we only took it out of the air we get a less humid and

 

sticky country and don't need to import so much of the stuff.

 

James, won't depressed oil and gas prices defer the switch to renewables?

[Celicar]

Hanjin sinking.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37227560

[Myxilplix]

It not just sinking, tiagong sunk liao. Just got word PSA stop Hanjin vessels berthing with immediate effect.

 

Everybody mad scrambling now, i'm waiting to hear back from maritime lawyers on updates.

[Jamesc]

  On 8/31/2016 at 6:34 AM, Myxilplix said:

It not just sinking, tiagong sunk liao. Just got word PSA stop Hanjin vessels berthing with immediate effect.

 

Everybody mad scrambling now, i'm waiting to hear back from maritime lawyers on updates.

 

They should unload the containers and sell the goods.

 

Pay off any unpaid debts.