Doppel Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Dear forumers, I am planning to resign from my current company soon. I intend to offset my earned leave (30 days) to offset against my notice period of one month. This is allowed under MOM's rules; however, I don't get paid for my leave, and I can immediately start work with my new employer on the next day. I have sought advice from many friends; some say serve your notice, some say use your leave to offset. I have a very tense relationship with my manager and I don't wish to serve the notice period; indirectly, by using my leave to offset, I am working for the company for free for one month, by not cashing in my leave if I serve the notice period. What would you do? Thanks. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 (edited) Work out any outstanding stuff and then offset the notice period with your leave. There's no point staying back when the relationship is tense. You can't stand the sight of each other. Clear the work and leave soonest as cordially as you can. Congratulations on securing that plant GM job yeah Edited July 23, 2016 by Porker 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Supercharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Dear forumers, I am planning to resign from my current company soon. I intend to offset my earned leave (30 days) to offset against my notice period of one month. This is allowed under MOM's rules; however, I don't get paid for my leave, and I can immediately start work with my new employer on the next day. I have sought advice from many friends; some say serve your notice, some say use your leave to offset. I have a very tense relationship with my manager and I don't wish to serve the notice period; indirectly, by using my leave to offset, I am working for the company for free for one month, by not cashing in my leave if I serve the notice period. What would you do? Thanks. Whatever u do, always keep good relationship with this company and your boss. V impt advice. World is very small. Things come around one day. The people (your boss or his kakis) in this company may work with u again in future. He may even become yr boss AGAIN in a new company, or something to this extent. I got friend who kena tis kind of situation. Not a pretty experience. And who is in the losing end? It's my friend...... my personal experience about resignation is u can use part of your leave to offset the notice period. So instead of serving one month notice, u may just serve 1-2 weeks or something like that. And u r using part of yr leave to offset. It's good in both sides of the coin. U can settle any outstanding work, show that u r a responsible employee, and u still can encash some leave. And u leave this company with a good parting. Both parties benefit. Don't resign with immediate notice and vanish like a ghost. Doesn't reflect good on yourself. 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Whatever u do, always keep good relationship with this company and your boss. V impt advice. World is very small. Things come around one day. The people (your boss or his kakis) in this company may work with u again in future. He may even become yr boss AGAIN in a new company, or something to this extent. I got friend who kena tis kind of situation. Not a pretty experience. And who is in the losing end? It's my friend...... my personal experience about resignation is u can use part of your leave to offset the notice period. So instead of serving one month notice, u may just serve 1-2 weeks or something like that. And u r using part of yr leave to offset. It's good in both sides of the coin. U can settle any outstanding work, show that u r a responsible employee, and u still can encash some leave. And u leave this company with a good parting. Both parties benefit. Don't resign with immediate notice and vanish like a ghost. Doesn't reflect good on yourself. Agree on this on all counts. Try your best to keep things cordial so that at least you leave on a good note. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Dear forumers, I am planning to resign from my current company soon. I intend to offset my earned leave (30 days) to offset against my notice period of one month. This is allowed under MOM's rules; however, I don't get paid for my leave, and I can immediately start work with my new employer on the next day. I have sought advice from many friends; some say serve your notice, some say use your leave to offset. I have a very tense relationship with my manager and I don't wish to serve the notice period; indirectly, by using my leave to offset, I am working for the company for free for one month, by not cashing in my leave if I serve the notice period. What would you do? Thanks. Easier is to ask that question ( i.e. do they prefer u to serve notice or clear ur leave) to HR or ur manager. Frankly if the r/s is already bad , likely they will say clear your leave. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 (edited) talk to HR ... probably can offset most of the leaves just give it a couple of days to clean up and make a clean exit Edited July 23, 2016 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 No matter how tense the relationship, keep things professional. Nego 2 wks early release with HR. Sg very small only 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabian Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 What does your employment contract/ offer letter say? There shd be a section on resignation/ termination. Usually, it will state the notice period to be served by either side and if any other option can be used in lieu of the notice period. Using your leave to offset is really at the discretion of your company if it is not spelt out in your contract. Be nice. Don't burn bridges. The world is very small. Just ask Juan Mata. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppel Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Author Share July 23, 2016 Thanks for all the advice so far. Under MOM's rules, I can use my leave to offset the notice period: http://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices/termination-of-employment/termination-with-notice I understand the rationale of keeping the relationship, not burning any bridges etc.. Without giving too many details, let's just say I won't go back to work for my current company again after I leave and there is no way my current manager may become my boss again in another company. I have worked for this company for many years and in the past two years under this new manager hasn't been the best of times. And I could imagine he would probably not be very cordial during my notice period and this would further aggravate the already tense relationship. I don't wish to subject myself to further abuse and humiliation, hence the plan. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Just pay up and leave. While others are saying that you shouldn't burn bridges, I sense that the bridge has already been destroyed anyway. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benarsenal Turbocharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 Thanks for all the advice so far. Under MOM's rules, I can use my leave to offset the notice period: http://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices/termination-of-employment/termination-with-notice I understand the rationale of keeping the relationship, not burning any bridges etc.. Without giving too many details, let's just say I won't go back to work for my current company again after I leave and there is no way my current manager may become my boss again in another company. I have worked for this company for many years and in the past two years under this new manager hasn't been the best of times. And I could imagine he would probably not be very cordial during my notice period and this would further aggravate the already tense relationship. I don't wish to subject myself to further abuse and humiliation, hence the plan. If you feel that the situation is now untenable, then talk to the relevant parties (HR or the boss) to see what are the possible solutions to get you out as soon as possible. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff69 Hypersonic July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 (edited) by right under mom rules you can by left it up to the discretion of your company it can be argue that you need proper hand over to be fair to company. if your company refuse to let you off set the leave for early release. then play mc. radx teach me 1. he ownself give ownself mc side note. if you want, secretly video or keep the text communication with your boss then sexposed the whole thing. Edited July 23, 2016 by Staff69 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged July 23, 2016 Share July 23, 2016 (edited) TS are you in a position of responsibility or just a line worker? If you are in a position of responsibility best not to play punk by leaving immediately. Does not speak well of you. Future employers will also take note of this. If you are just line staff, future employers will also take note but probably let it go since you did not shirk responsibility. You had none cos your job is to work and go home. Needless to say, is your new job a responsible job like a manager post or line staff? If manager job how you left your previous job is more important than if you were applying for a line position. Just my two cents. Edited July 23, 2016 by Philipkee 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTong Turbocharged July 24, 2016 Share July 24, 2016 (edited) MOM rules thought only apply for salaries below some amount? You sure u qualify?.. MOM more like guidelines for you bro.. N u never know one day ..how things pan out.. Be professional.. Wayang a bit.. Edited July 24, 2016 by BenTong 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 24, 2016 Share July 24, 2016 No matter how untenable the situation, keep things professional. If throw MOM rules at the company, what kind of image are you projecting? If he becomes more abusive during notice period, drop HR an email seeking solution. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngseeming 5th Gear July 24, 2016 Share July 24, 2016 MOM rules thought only apply for salaries below some amount? You sure u qualify?.. MOM more like guidelines for you bro.. N u never know one day ..how things pan out.. Be professional.. Wayang a bit.. Yes, whatever not stated in the Employment Act should be considered guidelines. Notice the stated link is under "employment practices-termination notice". Not sure the following found further down is guideline or excerpt from the Act: If you apply for annual leave during your notice period, and your employer approves it: You will be paid for the full notice period. You are considered an employee until the last day. You cannot join a new company until the notice period is over. TS, pls take note 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion Turbocharged July 24, 2016 Share July 24, 2016 if you are the sole winner of last week's $4.5m Toto, i'm pretty sure that you can do whatever you want haha just kidding 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitanic 6th Gear July 24, 2016 Share July 24, 2016 you can go to the beach lie down and think it over when have a clear mind. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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