Opel Astra 2016

[Tianmo]

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one account is good enough to make your unhappiness felt, no need to set up another to make AG look like there are many of such problems. 

 

Didnt your SE told you they dont monitor this thread? you kbkp here with so many clones got use meh? 

[Mkl22]

There's always the Nissan Pulsar... cheap Spanish ride with a CVT..

The English Honda Civic 1.0T hatch for a bit more..

Ford Fiesta and Focus ..

For a bit more, the Infinity q30 diesel..

BMW 116D - fabulous ZF gearbox too. Should be around 120k and still made in Germany too.

I think Q30 is using should be using the Renault diesel and also a DCT.

[therock]

I think Q30 is using should be using the Renault diesel and also a DCT.

Yes indeed, but it's not the infamous DSG.. this is a wet clutch with other mechanicals borrowed from the GLA, for a lot less $$

[Mkl22]

Yes indeed, but it's not the infamous DSG.. this is a wet clutch with other mechanicals borrowed from the GLA, for a lot less $$

Yeah. So far the problematic dsg is the vw 7speed made by LUK and ford powershift by Getrag.

[Kiario]

There's always the Nissan Pulsar... cheap Spanish ride with a CVT..

The English Honda Civic 1.0T hatch for a bit more..

Ford Fiesta and Focus ..

For a bit more, the Infinity q30 diesel..

BMW 116D - fabulous ZF gearbox too. Should be around 120k and still made in Germany too.

 

the pulsar thread are saying Tan Chong have stop bringing in the pulsar.

[Johnny86]

instead of disliking anonymously, can u grow up instead?

 

im not angry, just feeling wtf we not talking about kids toys here, no need be so emotional and so personal need to hide behind keyboard, behind nickname and add extra layer of disliking under anonymity

 

comon, be a man    but then again if disliking other ppl's post makes u feel less bitter about ur life, go ahead just take it out on me but instead of writing your "arguments" just put "i need to feel less bitter about my life in my bedroom" instead

 

now that i've written my piece,  u are free to dislike any of my posts from now on 

[therock]

Don't worry bro.. I give you one back.. there are more important things in life..

Anyway, I am sure PSA will want to keep this model. It's very popular in Europe. The main downside is the small distributor here, who seems to be slow or reluctant to deal with issues.

I am sure it's not just the Astra which has issues, but it needs to deal with them promptly.

[Victor68]

this is one of the cars i have been eyeing. very nice design and finishes with that kind of price tag. 

 

so what 'tuck' sound and do others face the same problem? i am sure they sold hundreds. all having same noise or onlybthose sensitive ones? 

[kelaihoyin]

I got an update with regards to the 'tuck' sound from AG. It is not a sound from the gearbox because they had changed a gearbox previously and the sound still persist.

 

As usual they are still waiting for a reply from Germany but at least is more assuring that it is not from the gearbox. 

[Tianmo]

relac guys, the dislikes we get may or may not be form those we think it came from, there is one joker going ard giving out dislikes to stir up some fights so that he can see show, dont fall for the trap. 

 

For this joker, dont think nobody know who you are, no harm done yet so ppl are keeping quiet, push your luck further and you will see what is coming. You just gotten a 5 dislike from me, so take hint from there.  

[therock]

Wah ninja sai stirrer...

[Tkew]

Quite true I also want to see how reliable is their smooth DSG.

 

I think a not-so-smooth MTA doesn't mean is not reliable? I used to drive the Civic FD1 and the auto has a jerky change from 2nd to 3rd gear and still lasted me 10 years.

 

I tested Opel Astra ST 1.0 and 1.4, and also SEAT Leon ST 1.0, before setting on the Astra 1.4.

 

I think the implementation of 1.0 on SEAT Leon ST with the DSG is great, it is powerful and it nothing like the Astra 1.0 implementation. The other great thing about it is the sound system, it is much better than Astra's. However, that's where the good stops.

1. The finishing of cabin is cheap looking and dated.

2. The bonnet release handle is not even switched over the right hand drive side, i.e. you have to ask your passenger to open the bonnet or you go the passenger side to open.

3. The price of SEAT Leon ST 1.0 with leather trim is 2k above the Astra 1.4 ST, and it comes with less accessories, e.g. only 16" rim, 3 years servicing, front camera only, etc.

 

The DSG is good and smooth, however there has been a lot of nightmare about the failure after 3rd year. I have a friend who's 4 year old Audi just had to replace the DSG. While it is smooth, it does not translate to reliable.

[Kiario]

relac guys, the dislikes we get may or may not be form those we think it came from, there is one joker going ard giving out dislikes to stir up some fights so that he can see show, dont fall for the trap. 

 

For this joker, dont think nobody know who you are, no harm done yet so ppl are keeping quiet, push your luck further and you will see what is coming. You just gotten a 5 dislike from me, so take hint from there.  

 

yah, I got dislike here too but I am not bothered.

this is one of the cars i have been eyeing. very nice design and finishes with that kind of price tag. 

 

so what 'tuck' sound and do others face the same problem? i am sure they sold hundreds. all having same noise or onlybthose sensitive ones? 

 

I think several 1.4 got this tuck sound. The was a figure of 5 who raised this issue to AG? Correct me if I am wrong.

my 1.0 do not have this, in fact, I don't remember seeing any 1.0 owners mentioning about this tuck sound.

 

Edited September 25, 2017 by Kiario

[Felipe]

Yes indeed, but it's not the infamous DSG.. this is a wet clutch with other mechanicals borrowed from the GLA, for a lot less $$

it's still dsg, but with a wet clutch. 

[Felipe]

I tested Opel Astra ST 1.0 and 1.4, and also SEAT Leon ST 1.0, before setting on the Astra 1.4.

 

I think the implementation of 1.0 on SEAT Leon ST with the DSG is great, it is powerful and it nothing like the Astra 1.0 implementation. The other great thing about it is the sound system, it is much better than Astra's. However, that's where the good stops.

1. The finishing of cabin is cheap looking and dated.

2. The bonnet release handle is not even switched over the right hand drive side, i.e. you have to ask your passenger to open the bonnet or you go the passenger side to open.

3. The price of SEAT Leon ST 1.0 with leather trim is 2k above the Astra 1.4 ST, and it comes with less accessories, e.g. only 16" rim, 3 years servicing, front camera only, etc.

 

The DSG is good and smooth, however there has been a lot of nightmare about the failure after 3rd year. I have a friend who's 4 year old Audi just had to replace the DSG. While it is smooth, it does not translate to reliable.

which audi?

 

A4 and above all wet clutch.

 

dry clutch wears out faster, hence ppl tend to confuse it with being unreliable. replace clutch for around 2k (cos 2 clutches), problem solved.

 

Wet clutch provides a smoother, quieter operation. More expensive to manufacture. last longer but when break down, of cos must pay more also. few here claim to have wear tear issues with wet clutch but most don't drive very high mileage here anyway. 

 

The old ferraris from 355 to 430 all use single dry clutch. Same for Alfa 156 to 159. Notice not much complaints? btw, i don't mean not much issues. just the owners different mindset. 

 

rims wise, big rims don't mean better handling. other factors like unsprung weight, higher wear and tear on wheel bearings, suspension too. unless u corner hard like race drivers on a regular basis, the most bigger rims does is the look. 

[therock]

it's still dsg, but with a wet clutch.

Bro

You know that same of the fastest cars which stress their gearboxes a lot use them ya?

For most drivers, any gearbox will be fine. The DSG had engineering flaws, it was not because it was merely a dual clutch, wet or dry..

[Teo2000]

Wow! So much drama.....

 

Anyway, no more comments on my ride anymore since there are many Opel haters here.

 

On another note, my uncle's 1979 Datsun 120Y which had air con fitted when he bought it from Tan Chong always have this "Tuck" sound when the air con compressor kicks in and a "click" when the compressor is off. It was so loud until the motorcyclists will turn their heads and look at us at the traffic light.... You see all cars were non-air con in those days and it was around 1978-79 when ADs bring in cars with air con fitted. Before that, you got to install air con as an "after-market" item.

 

The air con never breaks down despite this "Tuck" sound countless times when he drove it for many years....

 

So back to this topic and look at the bigger picture: If the "tuck" sound does not make the Astra breakdown on you and if it does not affect the performance and handling of the car, just live with it. If you have enough money within the next few years, then sell it away and buy the car of your dreams. The 5 year warranty which I was told also covers the transmission is good enough.

 

My cousin's 4 and a half year old Volvo XC90 just had to be towed to AD today because of transmission problem. Car cannot move. Not sure if Volvo has a 5 year warranty or not. He never drives to Malaysia, always go for for a few days holiday a few times every year so car is not used. Mileage is less than 18K per year. And I thought Volvo was reliable too.

 

My 2 cents worth.

[Friendstar]

I tested Opel Astra ST 1.0 and 1.4, and also SEAT Leon ST 1.0, before setting on the Astra 1.4.

 

I think the implementation of 1.0 on SEAT Leon ST with the DSG is great, it is powerful and it nothing like the Astra 1.0 implementation. The other great thing about it is the sound system, it is much better than Astra's. However, that's where the good stops.

1. The finishing of cabin is cheap looking and dated.

2. The bonnet release handle is not even switched over the right hand drive side, i.e. you have to ask your passenger to open the bonnet or you go the passenger side to open.

3. The price of SEAT Leon ST 1.0 with leather trim is 2k above the Astra 1.4 ST, and it comes with less accessories, e.g. only 16" rim, 3 years servicing, front camera only, etc.

 

The DSG is good and smooth, however there has been a lot of nightmare about the failure after 3rd year. I have a friend who's 4 year old Audi just had to replace the DSG. While it is smooth, it does not translate to reliable.

Excellent choice.

 

1.4 astra. Sweet!