clement229 3rd Gear June 13, 2017 Share June 13, 2017 harrier turbo or non-turbo... forester turbo or non-turbo always down to wants or needs. Yeah true. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 13, 2017 Share June 13, 2017 (edited) I dropped by Leng Kee over the weekend to view the Harrier. Initially my thoughts were "Wow, it is going to be bad for Lexus". Upon viewing the Harrier and NX .... my observations as follows : Toyota Harrier is a Toyota and the NX is a Toyota Lexus. The NX need not feel threatened by Harrier. The interior finish is vastly different, the built is different as well I always had the opinion, LEXUS is upgraded Toyota and I have to submit that I may wrong afterall. IMHO, someone looking at the Harrier may upgrade to a NX but if someone is looking at the NX, it is unlikely that the person will go with the Harrier. Both cars have different target consumers. Finally, the Harrier for it's price is not bad but I would probably spend 20k lesser with the Forester. I would spend 20k lesser on the forester too. For equivalent specs & features, the price difference between harrier turbo & forester turbo will probably be around $30k. And definitely, I will go with the forester. These days, car prices are very competitive. If a consumer is looking at deprecation per year & power of the engine, harrier turbo won't be on the list. Harrier turbo will have a depreciation of around $15k. And if u browse through used car , you can get a Volvo XC60 T6 that produce 300HP for deprecation of $13k-$14k. Yes, one is brand new and the other is used. But like what I say, deprecation of the Volvo XC60 is cheaper than a harrier turbo. U can also get a used Land Rover Evoque or Lexus NX200T that produce the same engine output numbers as the harrier turbo for $16k depreciation per year. Just my 2 cents... The harrier turbo is one of the cars that doesn't have target consumer Honestly, the harrier market at its peak is on year 2014-2016. I think those people that wants to buy a harrier, already bought it. Unless if you bought a harrier & want to upgrade to harrier turbo. Which is pointless I would say. This harrier turbo will be like the HR-V. The sales will be low. Because like what I said, those who wants a HR-V already bought the vezel. This is all arguable , but this is my humble opinion towards the harrier turbo. Just my 2 cents Edited June 13, 2017 by clement229 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic June 13, 2017 Share June 13, 2017 There is always a demand in the SUV segment. Among Harrier, Forester, Xtrail and Outlander, Harrier will continue to be the best seller in the SUV segment. The price of Harrier NA as it is currently is already the highest among the competition, this is likely the max price point for popular premium model that most people could accept. If BM woll to bring in Harrier Turbo at 15k to 20k higher than Harrier NA, then it will not fly. Harrier NA will continue to lead the segment till another brand brings in a more competitive/attractive model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxyong 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Finally BM filled the gap...for Toyota(BM)...they only have Camry, RAV in the $130k to $170k bracket...they are boring model for Ah Pek.....so hard to pick against continental and even their own Japanese peer like Nissan, Mazda etc.....TC harrier range from 150k-$160k would be the sweet spot since the old PI version has already gone for $140k +/- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datura 2nd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 (edited) wouldnt this harrier turbo attract 20k more for the emission tax comes next jan 2018? Edited June 14, 2017 by Datura Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 There is always a demand in the SUV segment. Among Harrier, Forester, Xtrail and Outlander, Harrier will continue to be the best seller in the SUV segment. The price of Harrier NA as it is currently is already the highest among the competition, this is likely the max price point for popular premium model that most people could accept. If BM woll to bring in Harrier Turbo at 15k to 20k higher than Harrier NA, then it will not fly. Harrier NA will continue to lead the segment till another brand brings in a more competitive/attractive model.They will definitely price the turbo $15-20k above NA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char 5th Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 They will definitely price the turbo $15-20k above NAThis turbo will not entitle $5000 CEVS so definitely price 15-20k more at least . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 (edited) This turbo will not entitle $5000 CEVS so definitely price 15-20k more at least .Yeah. Like what I mentioned last night, I dont think it will be a good seller. More options out here for the same yearly depreciation. I love the harrier. But the price is just a turn off. Trust me , people will still buy the PI's harrier. If it's $20k cheaper. Edited June 14, 2017 by clement229 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char 5th Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Yeah. Like what I mentioned last night, I dont think it will be a good seller. More options out here for the same yearly depreciation. I love the harrier. But the price is just a turn off. Trust me , people will still buy the PI's harrier. If it's $20k cheaper. As I mentioned before if you want turbo just finger press on power mode instally converted to turbo ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 As I mentioned before if you want turbo just finger press on power mode instally converted to turbo ...Haha... not true la... like that they come out with turbo for what haha... that 2.0 Turbo engine is powerful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char 5th Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Haha... not true la... like that they come out with turbo for what haha... that 2.0 Turbo engine is powerful Myself driving a Harrier and once awhile try out at traffic light ... it takes 6-7s reach 100km/h Ehen in power mode . Eco mode must admit lousy than under 1000cc and normal mode maybe like 1.5 car ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carhorn 5th Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Myself driving a Harrier and once awhile try out at traffic light ... it takes 6-7s reach 100km/h Ehen in power mode . Eco mode must admit lousy than under 1000cc and normal mode maybe like 1.5 car ...Get an ultragauge and hook it to your obd. Do a 0-100km/hr time run on the power mode on a flat safe road and take a pic. NPNT pls 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Myself driving a Harrier and once awhile try out at traffic light ... it takes 6-7s reach 100km/h Ehen in power mode . Eco mode must admit lousy than under 1000cc and normal mode maybe like 1.5 car ...Lol. I am also driving a harrier. 6-7 seconds to 100km/h? R u sure? I mean the Toyota harrier , not the fighter jet harrier leh bro. 6-7 seconds must be ur own feeling. Cannot reach 6-7 seconds one la.. u drive Audi Q7 2.0T or Volvo XC90 maybe lah... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 The Harrier must be the dream car every car maker aims to come up with..... Drink like a mouse Accelerates like a cheetah 1.6tonne CVT 2.0 4 pot NA that can go from 0-100kph in 6 seconds (ok ok.. in POWER mode) ? Out accelerate sports cars like maseratis and ferraris at traffic light.... I must give myself a kick in the heel for not buying it earlier.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carhorn 5th Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Those driving GLCs 250, wowo T5s, Macans can hit 6-7 sec from launch? Curious. My XC90 bestest is 7.6sec in real life. Time to sell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement229 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Harrier turbo 6-7 seconds to 100km/h I believe lah... But harrier NA 6-7 seconds impossible... if I am not wrong , using normal mode, 0-100km/h is about 10-11 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dxyong 3rd Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Agree that the NA is not as powerful as I would imagine.....especially in overtaking or hill climbing.... if given a choice now....I will definitely bite the bullet and go for the TC model....My ride is only 8 mths old...any taker for 12.5k depreciation unit? :p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cikgoo 1st Gear June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 Yeah. Like what I mentioned last night, I dont think it will be a good seller. More options out here for the same yearly depreciation. I love the harrier. But the price is just a turn off. Trust me , people will still buy the PI's harrier. If it's $20k cheaper. How come u know the pricing already? What is PI Harrier Elegance today? 140k? So the BM Harrier Turbo Elegance is 160k? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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