Zxcvb Turbocharged April 21, 2015 Share April 21, 2015 WTF, only beige coloured leather. In Malaysia, they offered option for black leather. Just like in Taiwan, only 2.0 and Hybrid. Looks like boleh-land is more advanced. Bolehland Camry are all locally-assembled (CKD - completely knocked down). ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 WTF, only beige coloured leather. In Malaysia, they offered option for black leather. Just like in Taiwan, only 2.0 and Hybrid. Looks like boleh-land is more advanced. New 2015 camry - BM only bring in black interior for 2.0 and beige interior for 2.5. In fact my complain is that I prefer beige interior and I prefer 2.0..... haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 The brochure above stated 215/60 R16... a size carried over since ACV 30 "wobbly" Camry. Well bro seems like you are not well versed in Korean engine tech. Hyundai i40 2L GDI can pull 178hp and same amount of torque as the Camry 2L wonder engine. And Hyundai doesn't require fancy Otter+Atkinson intake cycle to achieve such numbers. Just Direct Injection and good design will do. Even non GDI version of the same engine can pull up to 166hp. Yes needs to test drive to comment. For Hyundai and Kia, such high power are seldom felt as their cars tends to be heavy. For Toyota since its lighter so maybe u can feel the difference. Read this bro http://auto.howstuffworks.com/atkinson-cycle-engine.htm Yawn. So what talk paper until engine sibei gilat, what is available in the local market? Singapore only brings in this new sonata VIII http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_specs.php?CarCode=11625 Which is also 152bhp and 198nm torque. Not dissing MIK cars or what, but what is available in the local market? MIK cars are so heavy ... yeah right. Elantra 1,267 kg Altis 1,265 kg K3 1,293 kg This is real relative increased weight compared to the other B&B Cars. JETTA 1,417kg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefarn 5th Gear April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Basically 2.0 camry now change many things - Single VVT-i to dual VVT-i (both intake and exhaust cams) - traditional port fuel injectors to dual fuel injection (port + direct) - Under low load, like cruising on highway the engine can change valve timing to even more fuel efficient Atkinson mode - from 4 speed gear to 6 gear So net result supposed to be much more fuel efficient + more powerful. Online reviews from taiwan say the new engine very good to drive, but so far no feedback on FC. Direct Injection= fuel injectors is now located inside the cyln into the combustion chamber directly. Conventional port fuel injection.... the injectors are located behind the intake valves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear April 22, 2015 Author Share April 22, 2015 WTF, only beige coloured leather. In Malaysia, they offered option for black leather. Just like in Taiwan, only 2.0 and Hybrid. Looks like boleh-land is more advanced. I was told the 2.0L got black interior. Spore market too small so BM dun bother to give buyers options. No sunroof, no sports model,..etc. Pls take note that most foreign brand vehicles are locally produced or assembled in their own factory hiring locals. By boycotting will mean lost of jobs for locals. Toyota have factories all over the world for their respective domestic markets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toyota_manufacturing_facilities You are right. The gov dun wan these car makers making use of their countries cheap labours for assembly only. These foreign investment companies need to hire local and dunno how many percentage of the work need to be built locally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Yawn. So what talk paper until engine sibei gilat, what is available in the local market? Singapore only brings in this new sonata VIII http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_specs.php?CarCode=11625 Which is also 152bhp and 198nm torque. Not dissing MIK cars or what, but what is available in the local market? MIK cars are so heavy ... yeah right. Elantra1,267 kg Altis1,265 kg K3 1,293 kg This is real relative increased weight compared to the other B&B Cars. JETTA 1,417kg China market Sonata 9 very attractive, 1.6GDI Turbo, 180bhp/265Nm, DCT 7speed, 235/45/R18, 6 Airbags + ABS/TCS/ESP/DSC/VSC, embed Navigation, noonroof etc why Singapore always lag behind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 China market Sonata 9 very attractive, 1.6GDI Turbo, 180bhp/265Nm, DCT 7speed, 235/45/R18, 6 Airbags + ABS/TCS/ESP/DSC/VSC, embed Navigation, noonroof etc why Singapore always lag behind? China normally follow U.S style, now SUV is the most common in China Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 China market Sonata 9 very attractive, 1.6GDI Turbo, 180bhp/265Nm, DCT 7speed, 235/45/R18, 6 Airbags + ABS/TCS/ESP/DSC/VSC, embed Navigation, noonroof etc why Singapore always lag behind? Small market. If we were a population of 50mil and per capita GDP same as currently, u will see all the very latest here in SG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawan 1st Gear April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 I agree. I'm never a fan of suv. But it's a viable alternative at the prices we were talking about. Certainly the new 2.0 engine and gearbox for the Camry looks the best among the japs. 2.5 unless u really want the package features or want the extra 20 bhp power bah. I hope the 2.0 Camry doesn't have the 2 airbag crap again. U have to factor in another 5k worth of road tax over ten years for a 2.5l. Is it something u want to pay for? Also 2nd resale value is usually lower, tougher to trade in. 2.0 is always standard model in Sg 2nd hand market. Hence more demand. Thank you for the advice. I just read the brochure again to review what are the "extras" for 2.5 1. Auto retractable wing mirrors 2. Auto tilt wing mirrors 3. Driver memory seat 4. Front seat ventilation 5. Electro-chromic rear view mirror 6. Rear windscreen power sunshade 7. 215/55R17 tyres instead of 215/60R16 8. Extra 10 kw (bhp), Extra 32 Nm maximum torque 9. Extra airbags (curtain + D. knee) Negatives for 2.5 1. Extra 5K for road tax over 10 years 2. Lower resale value/demand Anyone test drove both 2.0 and 2.5 - do you feel much difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 Yawn. So what talk paper until engine sibei gilat, what is available in the local market? Singapore only brings in this new sonata VIII http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_specs.php?CarCode=11625 Which is also 152bhp and 198nm torque. Not dissing MIK cars or what, but what is available in the local market? MIK cars are so heavy ... yeah right. Elantra1,267 kg Altis1,265 kg K3 1,293 kg This is real relative increased weight compared to the other B&B Cars. JETTA 1,417kg agreed. korean cars power seems to be over stated. i cannot feel the extra hp over the toyota engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 Thank you for the advice. I just read the brochure again to review what are the "extras" for 2.5 1. Auto retractable wing mirrors 2. Auto tilt wing mirrors 3. Driver memory seat 4. Front seat ventilation 5. Electro-chromic rear view mirror 6. Rear windscreen power sunshade 7. 215/55R17 tyres instead of 215/60R16 8. Extra 10 kw (bhp), Extra 32 Nm maximum torque 9. Extra airbags (curtain + D. knee) Negatives for 2.5 1. Extra 5K for road tax over 10 years 2. Lower resale value/demand Anyone test drove both 2.0 and 2.5 - do you feel much difference? I test driven the 2.0. It feels like... a big Altis. Ok the new 6 speed is very seemless, cannot feel any gear change at all. Downshift on acceleration is very fast. New Engine seems a bit noisy compared to previous camry, but I think pulls better. Braking was good compared to previous gen (06-12 model). The factory black leather quality was not too good - very loose and uneven on the test drive car. The 2DIN toyota HU was surprisingly high-res and had nice graphics. 4 speed steering wheel with wood and large spongy buttons looks like shit... 156k car show promo (to fight cars@expo) with guaranteed COE. Was very keen on it previously... but now hard to decide. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawan 1st Gear April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 I test driven the 2.0. It feels like... a big Altis. Ok the new 6 speed is very seemless, cannot feel any gear change at all. Downshift on acceleration is very fast. New Engine seems a bit noisy compared to previous camry, but I think pulls better. Braking was good compared to previous gen (06-12 model). The factory black leather quality was not too good - very loose and uneven on the test drive car. The 2DIN toyota HU was surprisingly high-res and had nice graphics. 4 speed steering wheel with wood and large spongy buttons looks like shit... 156k car show promo (to fight cars@expo) with guaranteed COE. Was very keen on it previously... but now hard to decide. Last weekend Camry 2.0 was 161K when I enquire at their show room (after all the discount/rebate). Accord 2.0 was about 165K. Here are two videos for those who want to have a good look of the new camry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic April 24, 2015 Share April 24, 2015 front looks like overgrown vios. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear April 27, 2015 Author Share April 27, 2015 I test driven the 2.0. It feels like... a big Altis. Ok the new 6 speed is very seemless, cannot feel any gear change at all. Downshift on acceleration is very fast. New Engine seems a bit noisy compared to previous camry, but I think pulls better. Braking was good compared to previous gen (06-12 model). The factory black leather quality was not too good - very loose and uneven on the test drive car. The 2DIN toyota HU was surprisingly high-res and had nice graphics. 4 speed steering wheel with wood and large spongy buttons looks like shit... 156k car show promo (to fight cars@expo) with guaranteed COE. Was very keen on it previously... but now hard to decide. The steering wheel is 3 or 4 spoke? I sit at the car at the showroom feels the leather seats very soft. Not a good support for long hours drive if go Malaysia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 The steering wheel is 3 or 4 spoke? I sit at the car at the showroom feels the leather seats very soft. Not a good support for long hours drive if go Malaysia. The one in SG is : The one I like is : Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 The one in SG is : toyota-camry-2-0-2015-malaysia-launch-pics-1022-850x567.jpg The one I like is : 2015-Toyota-Camry-30.jpeg Can Toyota stop using those fake woods..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear April 27, 2015 Author Share April 27, 2015 Exactly! The Thai steering wheel is much younger look. The 4 spoke steering wheel looks bulky and old. Merc C180 also changed their steering wheel from 4 to 3 spokes. The one in SG is : toyota-camry-2-0-2015-malaysia-launch-pics-1022-850x567.jpg The one I like is : 2015-Toyota-Camry-30.jpeg Can Toyota stop using those fake woods..... Those are cubic printing. If they do carbon fiber design or piano black then best! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Can Toyota stop using those fake woods..... interior still kind of boring ↡ Advertisement 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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