Which SUV would you choose for now?

[MQX87511]

Vezel .... Honda and MIJ.

If only this 3, I will select none, rather wait for new Civic 1.5T,

read some oversea review Vezel noise isolation very jiala,

Edited November 17, 2015 by MQX87511

[jg2000]

Subaru XV is the exact same Impreza 5door only jacked up in height, did not even try to redesign to whole car. At least QQ and Vezel design is unique to their cousin, sibling or whatsoever.

 

Subaru NA boxer engine is really nothing. The all wheel drive adds weight and zap up power it's slow and sluggish, FC will be bad. The difference in Audi Quattro is that all their models are TC with high BHP and Torque to compensate the all wheel drive inefficiency. The drive experience is totally different.

 

Looking at the spec, it weighs 1,410kg with only 113bhp and 150NM torque compare to Vezel at 1,190kg, 129bhp, 155NM torque and QQ at 1,285kg, 114bhp, 165NM. It simply just too heavy and under power.

 

Unless they put in the new Levorg 1.6GT-S engine or their 2.0XT then maybe can consider.

 

Only a Subaru WRX is a WRX not Subaru cars are WRX.

 

Yes, Vezel is a nice car.  Would have considered seriously if it were not PI and was out in market a while longer so that most teething issues are sorted out properly.

 

Subaru has the curse of being so famous for its WRX that its other vehicles are judged against it (esp. in places like UK and Singapore).

 

On its own, the XV is quite ok and in fact, does very well in places like Australia and US (where probably the WRX is not so famous for the XV target audience).  Torque-wise, it has very good low end torque as its torque curve is very very flat for the 1.6L so it is almost max torque even at low RPMs.  Hence, initial acceleration is very fast and can be the first few away from the red lights and for city driving and highway cruising, it is very suitable.  Of course, it is no racing machine and its global target market are not the racers.

 

The Quattro driving experience is not about speed but about ability to stick well to the road in curves and wet or loose (gravel / sand) road surfaces in rally driving conditions.  For this, the XV does well.  Can see the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKSmLY6qRk

 

Yes, XV is jacked up Impreza but the design ends up working much better in the XV than the Impreza itself.  It is a Subaru "tradition" to do such things (they invented this crossover way of crossing over a car design to become a SUV long before the word crossover came into fashion) and most of their crossovers have worked quite well (e.g. Outback) and ended up more popular than the base cars they were derived from.  Their crossovers are also not just for show but really can handle non-tarmac roads well because of AWD and among the highest actual ground clearance (9 inches) among SUVs. It can't compare with real off-road vehicles (like Land Rover Discovery) but it can do reasonably ok. Can see video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxU7cwBfNw8

 

Edited November 17, 2015 by jg2000

[chuanyan128]

Yes, Vezel is a nice car.  Would have considered seriously if it were not PI and was out in market a while longer so that most teething issues are sorted out properly.

 

Subaru has the curse of being so famous for its WRX that its other vehicles are judged against it (esp. in places like UK and Singapore).

 

On its own, the XV is quite ok and in fact, does very well in places like Australia and US (where probably the WRX is not so famous for the XV target audience).  Torque-wise, it has very good low end torque as its torque curve is very very flat for the 1.6L so it is almost max torque at low RPMs.  Hence, initial acceleration is very fast and can be the first few away from the red lights and for city driving and highway cruising, it is very suitable.  Of course, it is no racing machine and its global target market are not the racers.

 

The Quattro driving experience is not about speed but about ability to stick well to the road in curves and wet or loose (gravel / sand) road surfaces in rally driving conditions.  For this, the XV does well.  Can see the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKSmLY6qRk

 

Yes, XV is jacked up Impreza but the design ends up working much better in the XV than the Impreza itself.  It is a Subaru "tradition" to do such things (they invented this crossover way of crossing over a car design to become a SUV long before the word crossover came into fashion) and most of their crossovers have worked quite well (e.g. Outback) and ended up more popular than the base cars they were derived from.  Their crossovers are also not just for show but really can handle non-tarmac roads well because of AWD and among the highest actual ground clearance (9 inches) among SUVs. It can't compare with real off-road vehicles (like Land Rover Discovery) but it can do reasonably ok. Can see video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxU7cwBfNw8

 

 

150NM torque with such weight, even good low end torque also very limited. Probably no car wants to go off the line fast in those instances that's why it makes one think very good acceleration.

 

The amount of XV on the road compare to Vezel and QQ tells the story... Not so applicable in SG.. Too bad.

[jg2000]

150NM torque with such weight, even good low end torque also very limited. Probably no car wants to go off the line fast in those instances that's why it makes one think very good acceleration.

 

The amount of XV on the road compare to Vezel and QQ tells the story... Not so applicable in SG.. Too bad.

 

To each his own taste.

Some like a car that is common and some prefer cars that are not so common.

 

[Axela72]

seem like when in come to flood in SGP, probably the survive rate is higher as compare with those imitation SUV.

 

 

 

Yes, XV is jacked up Impreza but the design ends up working much better in the XV than the Impreza itself.  It is a Subaru "tradition" to do such things (they invented this crossover way of crossing over a car design to become a SUV long before the word crossover came into fashion) and most of their crossovers have worked quite well (e.g. Outback) and ended up more popular than the base cars they were derived from.  Their crossovers are also not just for show but really can handle non-tarmac roads well because of AWD and among the highest actual ground clearance (9 inches) among SUVs. It can't compare with real off-road vehicles (like Land Rover Discovery) but it can do reasonably ok. Can see video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxU7cwBfNw8
 

 

[Sgfunguy]

Test drove ASX & Vezel

 

Personally don't like the i-Stop engine feature.

will go for the ASX

 

Edited November 17, 2015 by Sgfunguy

[Pocus]

the overall feel that is pretty solid especially the doors and most importantly....turbo diesel!!!!!

 

Thank You...

I thought C&C only sell the petrol version? Anyway its too exp even for the bare bones version, but I admit I've seen the actual car its huge, like a Murano! The front grille looks like a aggressive snout or an animal.

[Hamburger]

I thought C&C only sell the petrol version? Anyway its too exp even for the bare bones version, but I admit I've seen the actual car its huge, like a Murano! The front grille looks like a aggressive snout or an animal.

 

there is the turbo diesel.

 

yup, spot on there. The front got this macho and aggressive  look. Nice....

[Axela72]

Isn't the new Tucson has Turbo diesel too?

 

there is the turbo diesel.

 

yup, spot on there. The front got this macho and aggressive  look. Nice....

 

[Pocus]

To each his own taste.

Some like a car that is common and some prefer cars that are not so common.

 

Relax @chuanyan128 and @jg2000. There's no right or wrong in this case. All cars have its strengths and weaknesses it's a matter of one's preferences.

 

If you ask me I'd like the Vezel for its engine, drive and fuel efficiency but lament its interior design and overly common exterior, while I love the XV for its interior, ride comfort and stability at cruising speed but lament it's lack of power and fuel consumption...so in the end I choose none of them...LOL

 

But on the whole both cars are good. For the practical in mind most would go for Vezel due to its brand factor and price but sometimes we think with our heart more than the head so a bulk of us choose otherwise.

 

Impt thing is at the end of the day everyone enjoys the ride of their own choice, not the ride they buy bcos they are following the herd.

Edited November 17, 2015 by Pocus

[Hamburger]

Isn't the new Tucson has Turbo diesel too?

 

this one i have no idea.

[alphard96]

Suv?

Toyota Prado for me .

good choice!

but lets go for the "larger" Land Cruiser (if i can afford it), in my opinion more reliable than Range Rover..hehe.

Vezel 1,5 X $108k<

Qashqai 1.2 Turbo 114k<

ASX 2.0 $111k<

 

Looks like the ASX a better deal? What's your chioce?

Among these three, apparently the VEZEL is the best seller

As majority less like to be wrong, go for this if not sure for a safe buy.

[Lala81]

To each his own taste.

Some like a car that is common and some prefer cars that are not so common.

 

 

114 bhp, 150nm with a 1.4 ton car. It's only the AWD that helps the launch off. Nothing about the engine or torque curve.

 

No offence, I don't think you can convince anyone it's sprightly off the mark.

 

But at that price range, every car has it's shortcomings. Buy what you like 

Hmm are the turning radiuses for the CUVs all so bad?

Just a glance at the ASX website shows turning radius of 5.3m. Gosh u aren't going to be doing too many 2 lane u turns. Definitely u need at least 2.5 lanes for that.

[macrosszero]

Feel is a very subjective thing - small-capacity turbocharged cars can feel fast without actually being fast, same for diesel, and more notoriously SprintBooster-type products for electronic throttle cars.

 

We all should make decisions to make ourselves happy first and foremost. If you derive your happiness in part based on other people's affirmation, consider if those people are someone that are near and dear to you, or just faceless nobodies on the internet. Most times, what other people think does not matter at all. 

[ah_pug]

Been through this thought process, my vote would go to the XV on grounds of AD, looks, interior build quality, stability and passive safety at the expense of FC and acceleration,

 

Stability and passive safety is some of the more important factors for a family with young children. Just too bad MI never have option for Eyesight active safety system.

 

Vezel - initial choice - looks good and well built but PI

 

Qashqai - nice exterior but surprising cramped interior with not as good built quality (imho)

[SuperCallum]

It depends on what are your concerns when selecting the car.

 

If you prefer AD: Qashqai or ASX.

If you want to pay for lower roadtax: Qashqai

If you want the best FC: Vezel

If you want LED headlights: Vezel

If you want turbo: Qashqai

If you want comfortable interior: Qashqai

[jonleelk]

Isn't the new Tucson has Turbo diesel too?

Diesel only, no turbo.

[chuanyan128]

Diesel only, no turbo.

 

They have both petrol 2.0 and diesel 2.0 CRDi.

 

Based on the diesel spec of 185PS @ 4000rpm and 410NM @ 1,750-2,750rpm torque, it's definitely a turbo. Nowadays no brands will produce non turbo diesel for cars anymore.

 

They even have a 1.6T-GDi with 7speed Double Clutch Transmission but maybe not available here.