7-Seater MPV

[Atrecord]

Bro, u should be looking at Estima size...u will hv to change again in another 2-3 yrs as yr kids grow older.

My 2 cents...

 

ha ha... yes tks. I was prepared to bite bullet and was eyeing estima, in that since last year was hoping this year will have entirely new model come out. 

 

Disappointed when confirmed recently that it's merely facelift...

 

next year if coe drops then see how lor...

[Blacksnow]

To share my experience on "other" brands...

 

Few years back, i bought a 5 yrs old kia rio. Many says korean no good. The only major i had was aircon, spent 1k there. However, jap car owner had similar issues.

 

Now driving orlando, spacious, good price, only that 10yrs equivalent tco comparable to kia carens 1.7 crdi. However, foe big sized family orlando wins. Small nits n nugs issues which i do not believe it does not happen for other cars

 

This current korea can drive 6 packs on full 2.1 tonnes load from SG to Genting to Cameron highland to port dickson then back SG. No sign of heavy climbing except it took more effort to climb genting.

 

Plasticy interiors...from feedback of forums, seems many cars below 130k today are moving to such interior....look at feedback at civic thread.

 

FOr me, i am happy with my chevrolet orlando where the final price is few percent of the pricelist and do not need to take loan, saving another few k off interest to offset possible unreliable korean episode. By the way, chevrolet orlando could be a true american made in korea.....compared to optra generation. I do have friends driving optra,2 in fact., no major issues as well.

 

I guess risk profile of everyone is different...

Your English gave Capt America cancer

[Bismarck]

Last yr when I went to the showroom, the SE recommended wish instead of avanza cos wish cos interms of quality and specs wish better. I think avanza and mobilio was designed for Indonesia's market?

 

I sat on Avanza twice before in Indonesia and I think it is quite a decent car for them in small roads at low speed. The interior nothing to crow about, cheap plasticky and simple. Space is decent for 4 pax. Other than that I think it should stick to Indonesia market than come to Singapore   But if compare to a China car I rather take this 

[echang104]

Was reading the brochure for Kia Caren. Very impressed with its 5 years unlimited mileage warranty and its 10 years engine warranty. Does any other brand provide such an extensive coverage? 

Edited July 6, 2016 by echang104

[Sabian]

MPV without sliding doors...3rd row access is a pain in the ass.

[yokechye]

Was reading the brochure for Kia Caren. Very impressed with its 5 years unlimited mileage warranty and its 10 years engine warranty. Does any other brand provide such an extensive coverage?

Mitsubishi outlander

MPV without sliding doors...3rd row access is a pain in the ass.

Not quite true in my opinion. The new touran is still ok. Edited July 6, 2016 by yokechye

[Porche]

MPV without sliding doors...3rd row access is a pain in the ass.

I agree with u

[Alheych]

I sat on Avanza twice before in Indonesia and I think it is quite a decent car for them in small roads at low speed. The interior nothing to crow about, cheap plasticky and simple. Space is decent for 4 pax. Other than that I think it should stick to Indonesia market than come to Singapore   But if compare to a China car I rather take this 

 

I'm surprised that people still buy something as rudimentary as the Avanza, when they can get something much more modern at around the same price if not less (just see Wish for instance). For crying out loud, you still need to open driver's side window and slowly pinch the radio antenna out of the A-pillar! (see picture)

 

Shows that if you put a Toyota badge on a tractor, people will still think it's good.

 

[Carbon82]

New Nissan Serena (available in Japan from end August)

 

[Heartlander]

New Nissan Serena (available in Japan from end August)

 

I like the design, but the height at 1.865m would mean more carparks that its owner cannot enter.

[Carbon82]

I like the design, but the height at 1.865m would mean more carparks that its owner cannot enter.

All the boxy type and large MPV (Toyota Triplet, Stepwgn, Biante, Alphard, Vellfire & Elgrand) have height of 1.8m to 1.95m, they don't have any issues accessing most of the multi-storey / basement carpark, since height limit is generally around 2.0 - 2.1m. Only some older MSCP (probably <5% of the total carpark in Singapore) have a lower height limit of 1.8 - 1.9m.

[Nzy]

All the boxy type and large MPV (Toyota Triplet, Stepwgn, Biante, Alphard, Vellfire & Elgrand) have height of 1.8m to 1.95m, they don't have any issues accessing most of the multi-storey / basement carpark, since height limit is generally around 2.0 - 2.1m. Only some older MSCP (probably <5% of the total carpark in Singapore) have a lower height limit of 1.8 - 1.9m.

 

Depends on individual. For my family, there are quite a number of places we go where the carparks are 1.8m. That is why we ended up with a smaller MPV instead of the alphard that we were considering. I guess, those who buy needs to do research and see the height limit of the carparks they frequent.

[samfreak]

All the boxy type and large MPV (Toyota Triplet, Stepwgn, Biante, Alphard, Vellfire & Elgrand) have height of 1.8m to 1.95m, they don't have any issues accessing most of the multi-storey / basement carpark, since height limit is generally around 2.0 - 2.1m. Only some older MSCP (probably <5% of the total carpark in Singapore) have a lower height limit of 1.8 - 1.9m.

The number of car parks not friendly to high roof mpvs is not as relevant as whether those car parks you frequent are high enough for such mpvs. The triplets habe the lowest exterior height (1.825m) amongst the high roof mpvs here. There are several 1.8m height car parks that the triplets can enter. But its still drivers beware of course.

[Atrecord]

New Nissan Serena (available in Japan from end August)

 

 

You     

Is this a facelift or a brand new model do you know?

How different is it from the current/outgoing model?

[Carbon82]

You     

Is this a facelift or a brand new model do you know?

How different is it from the current/outgoing model?

This is a brand new model (6th generation if I am not wrong), with a distinctive model code C27 (current JDM unit sold by T8 is C26 version). In term of size, seems like slighting shorter (but in line with other boxy MPV from Japan). Engine spec not available yet, but as with the current trend, expect some improvement in fuel consumption and CO2 emission (probably 5 - 10% from outgoing model).

[Atrecord]

This is a brand new model (6th generation if I am not wrong), with a distinctive model code C27 (current JDM unit sold by T8 is C26 version). In term of size, seems like slighting shorter (but in line with other boxy MPV from Japan). Engine spec not available yet, but as with the current trend, expect some improvement in fuel consumption and CO2 emission (probably 5 - 10% from outgoing model).

 

Aiyoh, should make it longer and not so tall instead - so the carpark problem can be avoided.

 

And wonder if we'll see it here and if so, how many airbag.

[Enye]

Aiyoh, should make it longer and not so tall instead - so the carpark problem can be avoided.

 

And wonder if we'll see it here and if so, how many airbag.

 

jdm designs are specifically catered for domestic consumers in Japan

 

which manufacturers would care to cater to requirements in singapore?

 

[Atrecord]

jdm designs are specifically catered for domestic consumers in Japan

 

which manufacturers would care to cater to requirements in singapore?

 

 

True true... Think Serena maybe only sell <50? in SGP? Cater to this, surely chap 11 soon... 

 

How come Jap basement/MSCP the height not like here so low leh? We have limited land so cannot built big, but little bit higher would have been good, right?