Seeking views on S60, Q50 and Mz6

[Melvinyuen]

but i read about the collision thingy you must be travelling at 30KM/H and below. if over the speed limit it will not react in time.

Is that true?

 

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:09 PM, Eugn86 said:

I think it all boils down to what are your priorities. If you look at the latest consumer reports on 2015 reliability report, and i quote them 

"Nissan’s Infiniti brand has continued its downward trajectory because of similar problems with its InTouch infotainment system.", the InTouch infotainment system has got reliability issues. 

 

Having seen and tested the Q50, i am thoroughly impressed by the amount of technology fitted as standard into this car, and that it has the longest wheelbase in its class, that C250 engine and tightly controlled panel gaps. A finely built car body that is strong and reassuringly thick which could have contributed to its high kerb weight. The weight does blunt its performance, yes, you can feel it at the wheel, but it rides well, has loads of room and is extremely good value for money. A Mercedes engine and gearbox are both things you can trust to last a long time. And that is an important trait to consider.

 

But really, the key selling point of that Volvo is their City Safety and some of their specs have Collision Warning with Active Braking (Volvo specs are inconsistent with their models, so do checkout what is offered). I cannot remember how many times have this often overlooked safety feature saved me from a collision, from hefty insurance claims, from being part of a chain collision etc. It may or may not be your fault.. it could be that you were deep in thoughts while driving... but that safety net is there to catch you when you fall. And that reassurance cannot be quantified. (refer to videos below).

Yes it may not have the nicest of interiors - e.g. that telephone pad just looks ugly and messy but when you are going to dial, it is the fastest way to do so (voice dialling doesn't work well), but it sure has the most comfortable seats and is just such a pleasant car to live with everyday. Volvo is an understated brand, something that you don't buy to haolian or haolian unintentionally. Often being bullied on the roads but when you prod the throttle, you leave most of these bullies in the dust (of cos with the more powerful models). Not everyone appreciates a Volvo, especially now that it is under Chinese ownership. That is perfectly understandable. And also the reason why i get unintentionally excited when i see and test the other cars in this class. But at the end of all those adrenaline-pumped days, there is still no place like (a Swedish) home.

 

Collision Warning in action.It allowed me to react a few milliseconds earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbDcADKBh8

 

Collision Warning with Active Braking in action. I did not step on the brake, the car braked itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTk2kydbZQ

 

 

We and the other Volvo friends all cannot figure that out too...

 

[Mason016]

  On 10/28/2015 at 7:02 AM, Melvinyuen said:

but i read about the collision thingy you must be travelling at 30KM/H and below. if over the speed limit it will not react in time.

Is that true?

 

City safety is not a license to drive badly or not pay attention.

[Melvinyuen]

  On 10/28/2015 at 7:16 AM, Mason016 said:

City safety is not a license to drive badly or not pay attention.

hahahahaha 

[7hm]

  On 10/28/2015 at 7:02 AM, Melvinyuen said:

but i read about the collision thingy you must be travelling at 30KM/H and below. if over the speed limit it will not react in time.

Is that true?

 

In the Mondeo it behaves similarly, the story is basically that it is usually only able to fully mitigate a crash (i.e. no contact) below 30km/h. If you want it to be higher than that it has to brake earlier (which can be annoying for people) or you need even more powerful brakes.

 

As stated it's there to assist you and not for you to never touch the brake manually.

  On 10/27/2015 at 1:09 PM, Eugn86 said:

Collision Warning in action.It allowed me to react a few milliseconds earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlbDcADKBh8

 

Collision Warning with Active Braking in action. I did not step on the brake, the car braked itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTk2kydbZQ

 

Was told previously by some Volvo SE as well as Volvo drivers (V40s) mostly that the City Safety had no real warning... I see yours has a row of LED warning lights. Is yours the latest generation S60 T5 drivE?

 

I have a very similar collision warning system on my car.

[F1enthusiast]

Hi 7hm

 

Mind sharing the car model you are driving with the collision warning system.

 

Thanks.

 

  On 10/28/2015 at 8:26 AM, 7hm said:

In the Mondeo it behaves similarly, the story is basically that it is usually only able to fully mitigate a crash (i.e. no contact) below 30km/h. If you want it to be higher than that it has to brake earlier (which can be annoying for people) or you need even more powerful brakes.

 

As stated it's there to assist you and not for you to never touch the brake manually.

 

 

Was told previously by some Volvo SE as well as Volvo drivers (V40s) mostly that the City Safety had no real warning... I see yours has a row of LED warning lights. Is yours the latest generation S60 T5 drivE?

 

I have a very similar collision warning system on my car.

[7hm]

  On 10/29/2015 at 2:53 AM, F1enthusiast said:

Hi 7hm

 

Mind sharing the car model you are driving with the collision warning system.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Ford Mondeo.

[Jamesc]

My view is

 

All 3 are very nice.

 

If you got one

 

And not completely

 

Satisfied with it,

 

You can always

 

Pass to me

 

And I will keep it.

 

:)

[LoverofCar]

Let's be a brand whore abit....Which one among these 3 brands will give more mileage when one drive it?  May be some will said all 3 are not elite brand...but still it does project a brand image to the buyer....any comment?

[Lala81]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:22 AM, LoverofCar said:

Let's be a brand whore abit....Which one among these 3 brands will give more mileage when one drive it?  May be some will said all 3 are not elite brand...but still it does project a brand image to the buyer....any comment?

 

Wowo definitely more up than the other 2 by a lot...

 

I doubt 95% of people out there and I'm pretty sure none of my friends know about Infiniti. Chery luxury model anyone? 

Edited October 29, 2015 by Lala81

[The_Bear]

Value and specifications aside, I normally look at this first world problem from my own perspective. Which one would I enjoy driving day in day out for the next few years? Which one makes me curious? 

 

Most of us started off with Japanese or Korea cars. So a switch to continental would be interesting. Volvo does it differently from Mazda or Infinity. Furthermore, there is always another chance for the other 2 brands further down the road unless you intend to make this your last car.

 

I would take the Volvo at this point.

[Lala81]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:47 AM, Bavarian said:

Value and specifications aside, I normally look at this first world problem from my own perspective. Which one would I enjoy driving day in day out for the next few years? Which one makes me curious? 

 

Most of us started off with Japanese or Korea cars. So a switch to continental would be interesting. Volvo does it differently from Mazda or Infinity. Furthermore, there is always another chance for the other 2 brands further down the road unless you intend to make this your last car.

 

I would take the Volvo at this point.

 

you opposite. Skoda -> premium sushi 

[The_Bear]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:50 AM, Lala81 said:

you opposite. Skoda -> premium sushi 

 

I like to try cars at different end of the spectrum if I can. Makes it more interesting. The only brand I have gone back twice is BMW. Life is too short to be stuck in one car. Volvo do make very interesting cars. In fact, the S80 was a very close option when I decided to get the Skoda. In the end, the Skoda got the nod because the RS wagon was just too entertaining to pass. No regrets on that one. You cannot get a Skoda in SGP anymore. 

[Lala81]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:55 AM, Bavarian said:

I like to try cars at different end of the spectrum if I can. Makes it more interesting. The only brand I have gone back twice is BMW. Life is too short to be stuck in one car. Volvo do make very interesting cars. In fact, the S80 was a very close option when I decided to get the Skoda. In the end, the Skoda got the nod because the RS wagon was just too entertaining to pass. No regrets on that one. You cannot get a Skoda in SGP anymore. 

 

totally agree, if u have enough $$ for this 1st world problem.

[Furrynadz]

  On 10/29/2015 at 6:14 AM, Jamesc said:

My view is

 

All 3 are very nice.

 

If you got one

 

And not completely

 

Satisfied with it,

 

You can always

 

Pass to me

 

And I will keep it.

 

:)

 

good idea

he can then buy the next on the list and if he dun want it pass to me

if later he buy the 3rd and find either of the first two still better we just do 1:1 swap with him

 

[Andyngps]

Got 3 friends who bought q50. No complain so far and prob the quietest among the 3. But again, they had it for a few months only so hard to conclude. Got another sold his mz6 within a year. Complained about noise and lack of bhp. Another s60 sold away within a year too. No idea why though. In terms of reliability, i do not know which to choose though im looking at q50...

Edited October 29, 2015 by Andyngps

[Coltplussport]

  On 10/29/2015 at 7:46 AM, Andyngps said:

Got 3 friends who bought q50. No complain so far and prob the quietest among the 3. But again, they had it for a few months only so hard to conclude. Got another sold his mz6 within a year. Complained about noise and lack of bhp. Another s60 sold away within a year too. No idea why though. In terms of reliability, i do not know which to choose though im looking at q50...

If you regards Infiniti as a Nissan, then the reliability of the 2 MIJ brands should be better than Volvo. If I'm associating myself with one of these brands, I think I would buy an Infiniti over the other 2 since Infiniti lineups suggest luxury and sport. For people who doesn't knows about the brands, I will just disregard their views.

[Tohto]

  On 10/29/2015 at 8:12 AM, Coltplussport said:

If you regards Infiniti as a Nissan, then the reliability of the 2 MIJ brands should be better than Volvo. If I'm associating myself with one of these brands, I think I would buy an Infiniti over the other 2 since Infiniti lineups suggest luxury and sport. For people who doesn't knows about the brands, I will just disregard their views.

 

Q50 are using the Mercedes engine and GB... The 2 most important part of the car are conti 

Edited October 29, 2015 by Tohto

[Coltplussport]

  On 10/29/2015 at 8:20 AM, Tohto said:

Q50 are using the Mercedes engine and GB... The 2 most important part of the car are conti 

 

 

Very difficult to answer if this is a good thing or not.