Sales of diesel cars rising at fast pace

[Mcf777]

Only downside is sound like sonata teksi....LOL.

Petrol Mercedes or Infinity engine also sound like taxi.

[Mcf777]

Diesel road tax damn high for a 3L car

Euro 4 engine : S$6120 per yr

Euro 5 engine : S$3576 per yr

 

Petrol road tax about S$2300 per yr

[Beregond]

new euro 6 disel car some model got diesel particulate filter or some thing similar to help make the car no smoke.

 

make sure ask properly how the system work, and how often the exhaust need to be clear etc before proceeding to get the car

[Hydrocarbon]

Still find it strange why our govt insist on having a diesel tax, can understand previously why this is needed but in this day and age?

 

To add a new revenue stream = good for government, to kill off the revenue stream = bad for government.

 

Especially since more money is needed for the new road works, new MRTs, new buses, etc.

[Spring]

 

To add a new revenue stream = good for government, to kill off the revenue stream = bad for government.

 

Especially since more money is needed for the new road works, new MRTs, new buses, etc.

 

I don't deny it's good revenue for the govt but when diesel tax was first introduced, I remember it was meant to be punitive in view of diesel being bad for the environment and dirtier in general.

 

But since diesel of today is cleaner and in fact some write-ups say even cleaner than petrol, this punitive tax should be removed totally IMO otherwise it would only fuel speculation that it's a revenue generating exercise which govt constantly denies.

[Fcw75]

This diesel tax is obviously a revenue generating exercise.

 

There's no tax for diesel at the pumps so obviously they have to get it from elsewhere.

[Nicfoo]

 

Bro, words are not enough.

 

Here's a pic to express better.

 

KJ.jpg

 

 

Interesting his RP took 2nd and 3rd place of the lowest votes in a GRC, and took 1st place for lowest votes in the SMC sector...LOL

[Soya]

 

My fren was trying to source for quotes for his v40d2.

 

Less den 1 year car was more than 20k loss. Also there wasn't much interest nor takers.

 

20k loss for 1 yr old car sibei good liao lor esp when COE has dropped. Straightline depreciation oredi $15-16k.

 

Try selling any 1yr old car and minimum 20-30% loss.

[Newbie26]

See current sgcarmart ad for 1 year old v40 d2

 

New V40 d2 car price ranges from 120 to 130k plus for past 1 year

 

Does not look so bad even if sold to dealer

 

 

Volvo V40 Diesel D2

$128,800

05-Sep-2014

Auto

1,560 cc

32,036 km

Stationwagon

Available

Fuel Type: Diesel (Euro 5 Engine and Above) Depreciation At $13k Plus. Cheaper Than Japanese Models. Drive Free For The First Month With 20% Down Payment. Your Number One Choice For Pre Owned Cars Comes With Select Approved Inspection.

 

 

 

My fren was trying to source for quotes for his v40d2.

 

Less den 1 year car was more than 20k loss. Also there wasn't much interest nor takers.

 

[7hm]

Again Singapore buck trends.... in Europe, the original bastion of diesel, diesel sales are being boycotted... hahahahaha

[Atonchia]

 

To add a new revenue stream = good for government, to kill off the revenue stream = bad for government.

 

Especially since more money is needed for the new road works, new MRTs, new buses, etc.

 

Yes, exactly.

And there is nothing wrong in collecting more.

[Atonchia]

 

I don't deny it's good revenue for the govt but when diesel tax was first introduced, I remember it was meant to be punitive in view of diesel being bad for the environment and dirtier in general.

 

But since diesel of today is cleaner and in fact some write-ups say even cleaner than petrol, this punitive tax should be removed totally IMO otherwise it would only fuel speculation that it's a revenue generating exercise which govt constantly denies.

 

Yes by your logical explanation can reduce the diesel tax.

 

But we'll implement carbon tax. So everything that emits carbon can be tax.

 

That will certainly include petrol, diesel, natural gas, kerosene, bio-diesel.

 

Even the rubbish incinerator & crematorium will have to be tax.

 

Carbon tax will be the mother of all tax.

[Zyklon]

 

I don't deny it's good revenue for the govt but when diesel tax was first introduced, I remember it was meant to be punitive in view of diesel being bad for the environment and dirtier in general.

 

But since diesel of today is cleaner and in fact some write-ups say even cleaner than petrol, this punitive tax should be removed totally IMO otherwise it would only fuel speculation that it's a revenue generating exercise which govt constantly denies.

 

If the government reduce tax, then I worry.

 

Road tax rebate...petrol tax...

 

With 70% popularity, there is absolutely no reason not to raise some tax. Diesel seems like a good place to start.

 

Edited September 16, 2015 by Zyklon

[Kangadrool]

When such news big on newspaper, it's a precursor to something to come...

 

Higher diesel tax, particulate tax....

 

Didn't toll matching sounds familiar?

 

So, with petrol tax upped, next they will justify that with diesel tax hike to equalize....

 

Just like articles now start appearing hinting GST increase.

 

Huat arh... Aftermath erection effects.

Edited September 17, 2015 by Kangadrool

[Watwheels]

When such news big on newspaper, it's a precursor to something to come...

 

Higher diesel tax, particulate tax....

 

Didn't toll matching sounds familiar?

 

So, with petrol tax upped, next they will justify that with diesel tax hike to equalize....

 

Just like articles now start appearing hinting GST increase.

 

Huat arh... Aftermath erection effects.

 

If ppl wants the govt to spend on social welfare money got to come from somewhere.

 

Thanks to majority's voting, pay and pay lor.

[Xefera]

 

Clattering is noticable during idling. Change exhaust also no use.

at least can hear the pop pop sound from the rear to drown out the clattering

[inlinesix]

at least can hear the pop pop sound from the rear to drown out the clattering

 

During idling, no way it will be drown out.

[Ake109]

 

I don't deny it's good revenue for the govt but when diesel tax was first introduced, I remember it was meant to be punitive in view of diesel being bad for the environment and dirtier in general.

 

But since diesel of today is cleaner and in fact some write-ups say even cleaner than petrol, this punitive tax should be removed totally IMO otherwise it would only fuel speculation that it's a revenue generating exercise which govt constantly denies.

 

I sat in with some LTA scholars once during feedback session on the Euro IV days.

 

Scholar was writing on whiteboard that the Special Tax was calculated based on equalization of petrol duty not collected. It was set at 36,000km a year breakeven for a 1.6 to 2.0 litre car.

 

Now with Euro 5 and 6 and reduced special tax, not sure what the basis for their calculation is.

 

During idling, no way it will be drown out.

 

Engine tua liap enough, no clatter.

 

We don't hear those 11 to 16 litre trucks clattering right? Possible having a turbo muffles the clatter too (like how turbo on petrol cars lower exhaust note), possibly the huge turbos on those trucks help.

 

8 litre V10 turbodiesel with akrapovic, should be no clatter I daresay. Just have to buy new tyres more often.

Yes by your logical explanation can reduce the diesel tax.

 

But we'll implement carbon tax. So everything that emits carbon can be tax.

 

That will certainly include petrol, diesel, natural gas, kerosene, bio-diesel.

 

Even the rubbish incinerator & crematorium will have to be tax.

 

Carbon tax will be the mother of all tax.

 

 

Then fat people emit more CO2, people who exercise emit more CO2!

 

have to tax!

 

I believe pang sai also mostly carbon. Have to increase cistern tax!

Edited September 17, 2015 by Ake109