Meemee 5th Gear August 8, 2015 Share August 8, 2015 (edited) Stage 1Gonna start an audio system upgrade on Qashqai J11In many occasion, the first to upgrade a car stereo is the speaker, head unit and addition amp.Often sound isolation or acoustic treatment is being left out in the equation. There are 4 main things to consider in car audio.1. Speakers.2. Amplification.3. Source.(head unit).4. Acoustic treatment.(soundproofing).http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Vehicle-Car-soundproofing-deadening-Engineers-view-/10000000176936757/g.html Personally, I feel that Acoustic treatment is the most important as it form the frame work or foundation resonant frequency of the car itself. If Acoustic treatment were to be in the last stage, there is a possibility of retuning the system again. (dismantle of parts, cover, speaker etc .)Love hate relation with vibrationVibration we loveHow do speakers work? http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=54The electromagnet is attached to a cone made of a flexible material such as paper or plastic which amplifies these vibrations, pumping sound waves into the surrounding air and towards your ears.Vibration we hateAs the speakers are generating these musical frequency, its also generated vibration within the door panels chamber.Often these frequency are trapped within the door chamber and causes crosstalk of frequency. Not forgetting that vibration from the car itself during moving off.As a result, some frequency are loss and some are amplify.That why we often hear the ugly sound of bass banging onto the wall of the inner panel. As much of the frequency(force) is being reflected back. In addition , other lose frequency.SolutionMethod 1 Weight the car down.By adding enough weight we can reduce the vibration of moving parts. However, efficiency suffer as more horsepower is require to move the car. Bad fuel consumption.Method 2 dampening material http://www.crutchfield.com/learn/learningcenter/car/vibration.htmlVibration dampeners and noise deadeners can improve the sound of your vehicle by lowering the amount of ambient noise when you drive. Here are a few ways how: Speaker grilles tend to resonate and buzz, road and engine noise can come through the firewall and floor, and a door panel missing a rivet can vibrate noisily. Noise deadeners can help reduce these annoyances. Just using an inexpensive door kit can make your speakers sound better by damping the resonance around the speaker area. If your vehicle has a lot of ambient noise, applying a vibration damper can give you a quieter, more relaxing ride. Method 3 Acoustic Insulation3M Thinsulate Acoustic Insulation is a cavity filling solution for automotive sound insulation applications. Compressible, lightweight and conformable, this product can be readily processed by conventional techniques such as die-cutting, heat sealing and ultrasonically bonding High performance and low density making them ideal for mass reduction applications Each method has it pros and consMost convention and common is method 2.However, I decided to go for the 3M thinsulate as it should be the most elastomeric materials (An elastomer is a polymer with viscoelasticity (having both viscosity and elasticity) and very weak inter-molecular forces, generally having low Young's modulus and high failure strain compared with other materials.) also being lighter of the 3 and easier to work with.It just like going to the boxing ring with mike Tyson and you gonna tired him out by draining his energy by all those empty punch being throw at you. A empty punch is more tiring then a punch which land on the opponent.UNDERSTANDING DAMPING TECHNIQUES FOR NOISE AND VIBRATION CONTROLhttp://www.earsc.com/HOME/engineering/TechnicalWhitePapers/UnderstandingDamping/index.asp?SID=62 Sound test Please dont ask the wife or girlfriend for feedback.They always reply : NO different , why waste the money.But to ours Trained ear it really make a different.. Day and night..After 3 installation on Qashqai I m totally convinces it works.All the cymbals sound like crystal bellsAll the bass sound more beefyMid all around.. no more messy soundSongs TestedRebecca Pidgeon No rattle on the door panels / vocal just flow into your faceCarpenter It going to take some times - Sweet voices of Karen just feeling so lushy full / Feel like there a drum set right infront of me / All the instrument sound at the right volume.Megadeth Dawn Patrol ( the ultimate Drum and bass ) My ear just bleed.However, dont expect the 3m Thinsulate to perform magic an turn the car to total isolation from the outside.Nevertheless, it a good platform to start withStay tune for stage 2 .... Edited August 10, 2015 by Lightsabre ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 9, 2015 Author Share August 9, 2015 Speaker mount prep : Wood is chosen is due to the acoustic property which is much more superior to plastic. That why you never see much plastic guitar - if you do , most likely it sound like crap. As plastic - the hollow chamber will cause unwanted resonate frequency again. Hence will distort the orginal sound quality. Gule 2 pcs of wood mount . Clamp , sand Down uneven edge , apply clay - to smooth out surface Important - process is to smoothen out the surface as we don't want edge to cause unnessary bounding of sound wave - and causes crosstalk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 9, 2015 Author Share August 9, 2015 Before the prep - gotta prime and seal the wooden mount 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 9, 2015 Author Share August 9, 2015 Mock up - before installation 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 12, 2015 Author Share August 12, 2015 Preparing the speaker ----- With form stick onto the wooden mounts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Sick!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 13, 2015 Author Share August 13, 2015 Ideal cross section Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 14, 2015 Author Share August 14, 2015 Seal the mount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftgolfer 2nd Gear August 25, 2015 Share August 25, 2015 Wow nice, where did you buy the 3m from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear August 25, 2015 Author Share August 25, 2015 Wow nice, where did you buy the 3m from? 3m - i m doing the installation :) All the sound will run deeper and richer Have done a couple of installation on Qashqai. Pm me if interests - for material or installation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talkie 1st Gear May 24, 2016 Share May 24, 2016 Wow. Awesome work! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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