BPL 15/16 - The New Season Part 1

[Ktglfc]

Liverpool exploring possibility of a China move for Mario Balotelli

 

Might be the best outcome for all. Liverpool get a decent fee for him, Balo can excel in a league that don't need high work rate. Also I think the Chinese adore him. His nickname is China is "巴神"

Chinese Clubs, pls bid for him at least 30mil pounds... So that we can use to buy other players :))

[Hosaybo]

Liverpool exploring possibility of a China move for Mario Balotelli

 

Might be the best outcome for all. Liverpool get a decent fee for him, Balo can excel in a league that don't need high work rate. Also I think the Chinese adore him. His nickname is China is "å·´ç¥"

Wah.... Very satki name and so hopefully also come with a similar price tag.

[Osprey23]

Pochetino likes player who is "naughty"

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/12165574/Tottenham-manager-Mauricio-Pochettino-encouraged-by-Dele-Allis-naughty-side-but-trusts-him-to-learn.html

[Osprey23]

JM:"I am not look for any club. The clubs are looking for me

[Osprey23]

Giggs is better than Special One

[Bismarck]

Giggs is better than Special One

 

Yes I agree. He is the "sex addict" one   Confirm and definitely better in bedding woman in bed than Jose 

[Ktglfc]

Yes I agree. He is the "sex addict" one   Confirm and definitely better in bedding woman in bed than Jose 

 

Oops ...

[Spring]

Giggs is better than Special One

Giggs is a Man United playing legend but to say this novice is better than JM is stretching it too far.

 

Admittedly JM brings with him a lot of baggage with his provocative style n pragmatic football but no novice can take charge of such a big team as Man United. Either he gains experience elsewhere first or bides his time being an assistant for few years before he can even dream of being United Mgr.

 

I know some die hards will say Pep was inexperienced taking over Barca but frankly It's much easier being Mgr of Barca than to be Mgr of a going backwards United team n in the competitive world of the EPL, my 2 cents.

[Hosaybo]

Barcelona was sort of still smooth sailing when PG took over. zidane also taking over a Real that dun have that much problem fundamentally. Current MU got a lot of things to sort out and hence, not so straight forward. Take more than a legend to get it right.

[Osprey23]

To be brutally honest, I like the idea of Giggs taking over

[ampark21]

Frankly speaking,

 

I doubt any of the top BPL players can be good manager. Take Gary Neville and Roy Keane and it's pretty obvious.

[Scion]

3 months left of season 15/16

 

PSG confirms winning the French title (almost leading 30 points)

 

Bayern and Barca are running away too

 

Juventus and Napoli are having 2-horse race

 

only EPL still very tight in the competition

[Osprey23]

Frankly speaking,

 

I doubt any of the top BPL players can be good manager. Take Gary Neville and Roy Keane and it's pretty obvious.

To quote probably the greatest manager in the EPL era SAF when asked about the prospect of Roy Keane becoming a manager, "Young managers come along and people say this one will be England manager or boss of this club, but two years later they're not there. It's not an easy environment to come into, I wouldn't forecast anything."

 

For a player to move up and becoming a successful manager, I believe he must possess leadership and charisma. That is more in his personality. The other portion would be determined by his tactical acumen and a brand of football he must stay true to.

 

In my mind, I can think of one player who might be able to make it. Steven Gerrard.

[Galantspeedz]

To quote probably the greatest manager in the EPL era SAF when asked about the prospect of Roy Keane becoming a manager, "Young managers come along and people say this one will be England manager or boss of this club, but two years later they're not there. It's not an easy environment to come into, I wouldn't forecast anything."

 

For a player to move up and becoming a successful manager, I believe he must possess leadership and charisma. That is more in his personality. The other portion would be determined by his tactical acumen and a brand of football he must stay true to.

 

In my mind, I can think of one player who might be able to make it. Steven Gerrard.

 

erm.... leadership and charisma yes but think he was famous for tactical non discipline instead lol

 

 

if you noticed... not many famous players make it as manager........

[Osprey23]

Giggs is a Man United playing legend but to say this novice is better than JM is stretching it too far.

 

Admittedly JM brings with him a lot of baggage with his provocative style n pragmatic football but no novice can take charge of such a big team as Man United. Either he gains experience elsewhere first or bides his time being an assistant for few years before he can even dream of being United Mgr.

 

I know some die hards will say Pep was inexperienced taking over Barca but frankly It's much easier being Mgr of Barca than to be Mgr of a going backwards United team n in the competitive world of the EPL, my 2 cents.

Pep didn't really have his bed made for him when he took over at Barcelona. There were some rejuvenation needed and he did well on that count. That I would attribute to three factors.

 

First, his appt as the Barcelona B team coach, though only for a year, was enough for him to know who was ready and could be called upon to the first team. He promoted Pedro and Busquet from there.

 

Second, he forged a good working relationship with Txiki who helped him a lot by getting in the right players for him. This bond will be reunited at City next season, also a big factor to why he chooses City over Utd.

 

Third, Barcelona has been playing the same brand of football since his playing days and that makes it easier for him as there is no need to "educate" the players to his style.

 

Compare this to Giggs. He should be familiar with the youth setup although there is probably not too many youngsters who can really make an impact judging from those LvG had been using so far. He has Ed Woodward helping him with transfers. Style of football? He probably has to undo a lot of things from the Moyes and LvG eras.

 

My personal take is this. If Man Utd truly wants Giggs to become their next boss, give it to him early. Might be a tipsy turvy journey but he needs to start somewhere.

 

If Man Utd get JM to take over, Giggs will probably leave. Even if they want him back next time, Giggs would have a even more difficult time to undo the changes made in playing styles and offload players already signed by the previous regimes to implement his style - which most Man Utd fans probably will be hoping would be closer to SAF's.

[Osprey23]

erm.... leadership and charisma yes but think he was famous for tactical non discipline instead lol

 

 

if you noticed... not many famous players make it as manager........

Yup, especially so from EPL. Gerrard's tactical indiscipline mainly during his prime, hence those managers (Pool and England) who realised that, didn't put him in central mid role. However, I do see a change in him during BR's time when he was tasked as the DLP.

 

Imo, as long as he knows the tactical requirements of each role, which is important for him as a manager can liao. As a manager, he would not need to take the field and lose his head.

[Fooblack]

3 months left of season 15/16

 

PSG confirms winning the French title (almost leading 30 points)

 

Bayern and Barca are running away too

 

Juventus and Napoli are having 2-horse race

 

only EPL still very tight in the competition

 

most leagues are rather predictable and the same teams are up there among the top year in year out. 

 

EPL is exciting to watch as any team can beat any team any given day.  language, media availability and publicity also helps to get fans to be in the loop.  

 

in terms of standard, I think the EPL clubs have lost much ground to the top euro teams. much is attributed to the rigorous demands of the EPL calendar and the intense "civil" competition in the country.  this leads to frequent axing of the managers which then requires rebuilding from season to season. The crux of the top european teams are pretty stable ensuring long term continuity and successes. Real Madrid probably bucks the tread with frequently changes at the manager level. 

 

as a player, i guess it gets somewhat boring if you are playing at the top club and winning the same domestic trophies year in year out.  guess the UCL provides some form of taste-buds excitiement and these top clubs are all vying for a chance to get the trophies.  

[Spring]

Pep didn't really have his bed made for him when he took over at Barcelona. There were some rejuvenation needed and he did well on that count. That I would attribute to three factors.

 

First, his appt as the Barcelona B team coach, though only for a year, was enough for him to know who was ready and could be called upon to the first team. He promoted Pedro and Busquet from there.

 

Second, he forged a good working relationship with Txiki who helped him a lot by getting in the right players for him. This bond will be reunited at City next season, also a big factor to why he chooses City over Utd.

 

Third, Barcelona has been playing the same brand of football since his playing days and that makes it easier for him as there is no need to "educate" the players to his style.

 

Compare this to Giggs. He should be familiar with the youth setup although there is probably not too many youngsters who can really make an impact judging from those LvG had been using so far. He has Ed Woodward helping him with transfers. Style of football? He probably has to undo a lot of things from the Moyes and LvG eras.

 

My personal take is this. If Man Utd truly wants Giggs to become their next boss, give it to him early. Might be a tipsy turvy journey but he needs to start somewhere.

 

If Man Utd get JM to take over, Giggs will probably leave. Even if they want him back next time, Giggs would have a even more difficult time to undo the changes made in playing styles and offload players already signed by the previous regimes to implement his style - which most Man Utd fans probably will be hoping would be closer to SAF's.

 

You made some valid points on Pep but I still think he is a one-off which is not a norm for a novice to be successful as first team coach at a big club and I still believe it is easier at Barca compared to other teams but admittedly as you have rightfully pointed out, the style of play Barca had from the youth team onwards helps.

 

You are also right that if United wants to appoint Giggs later, he may have a difficulty undoing what the previous Mgr may have done esp as an outsider may not embrace United values (worse still if it's JM).

 

And that's why I mentioned previously that United board has a "appoint JM n they maybe damn, don't appoint JM n they may also be damn" situation. Previously I think they were steadfast in not wanting JM esp directors like Charlton but with neighbours City raising the bar every week though not recently n with even the experienced LvG not able to turn the tide, their hand is forced I feel.

 

Interesting times ahead at OT and just goes to show football has its up n downs n even the big clubs can experience lean years which may lead them into a hole which they may find hard to come out from...... 

 

 

 

Edited February 22, 2016 by Spring