Nicepal 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 I have no idea too ;) Theoretically should be the same. But good or bad, same or no same, not sure. Unless it is a patent, and concept shared among car maker, then probably works the same. Else I guess should be a little different. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 im curious how does the bmw / merc start/ stop function work? as compared to the jap/ korean makes? it uses the bosch start/stop system. google it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmilktooth Supercharged August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 it uses the bosch start/stop system. google it thanks. good to know warm starting of engine only uses 0.7s of engine idling fuel!! i like my stop/ start function.. one day go test the conti system.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 im curious how does the bmw / merc start/ stop function work? as compared to the jap/ korean makes? if you taken a prius taxi before, the stop start is NOT smooth and transist smoothly from stop , quiet then it move off. Its stop, vibrate like normal car starting, then move after half second delay. Must get used to it. Even when you come to filter lane, stop, the engine cutoff, then u release brake engine starts, half second move. Must be careful else you get caught flat footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmilktooth Supercharged August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 (edited) if you taken a prius taxi before, the stop start is NOT smooth and transist smoothly from stop , quiet then it move off. Its stop, vibrate like normal car starting, then move after half second delay. Must get used to it. Even when you come to filter lane, stop, the engine cutoff, then u release brake engine starts, half second move. Must be careful else you get caught flat footed. no, dint before.. for my mz2 to put it clearly, it has a 'soft' and 'hard' stop/start feel.. come to a stop. if you only step on brake pedal with enough force, the aircon blowing feels like fan and the engine is softer?But still running... but if you further depress the brake pedal, the whole engine cuts off. it only restarts if the stored battery runs out of juice or your foot releases the brake. engine does not shudder and power is instant.. mho... thats why im curious on contis.. it does not auto stop after say stationary waiting for a duration of time at traffic lights in D .. Edited August 12, 2015 by Mrmilktooth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicepal 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 thanks. good to know warm starting of engine only uses 0.7s of engine idling fuel!! i like my stop/ start function.. one day go test the conti system.. Go test 116d leh. Share with us ur view. I only tested 116d Start/stop. Othere Jap brand experience as passenger only. Furthermore I chk with SE on the MSA coding of Start/Stop, he claimed they used to do that but BMW stopped providing PmL the sw to do this coding since 1.5yrs ago. Ccsgl1900. U go ask ur SE abt the MsA memory coding leh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccsgl1900 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Author Share August 12, 2015 Go test 116d leh. Share with us ur view. I only tested 116d Start/stop. Othere Jap brand experience as passenger only. Furthermore I chk with SE on the MSA coding of Start/Stop, he claimed they used to do that but BMW stopped providing PmL the sw to do this coding since 1.5yrs ago. Ccsgl1900. U go ask ur SE abt the MsA memory coding leh... Sorry, usually I am the driver of the car, I am not bother with all the functionalities. As long as it serves me from point A to B without problem, I happy already. May I know what is MSA coding. I can check with my SE on this and update you guy. Do not to worry too much on start/stop function, just disable it, if you are caught in a traffic congestion. Normal drive mode, just let the start/stop activate. Do your part for the environment. :). BTW, US dollar and Euro gone up against SGD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicepal 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 They said MSA memory coding is able to change the software such that Start/stop to follow "last mode" rather than default ON. I agree also lah, helps a little bit to the environment. Just a little uneasy on the jerk/shake whenever engine wakes. Not sure if deteriorate the engine lifespan or not.... Stock car at PML shld b ok and not affected by the currency exchange. Pml probably anticipated and bring in the stock, to sell at lower price to attract buyer. When rates go up, new stock will b higher. So I guess we are the fortunate ones to get before currency exchange goes up. Better next coe drops badly so can get some refunds... ;) Hera from SE they r bringing in Active Tourer too and stock eta early sept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury1 Turbocharged August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 Opps, my SE also told me that BMW AG wanted to stop allowing the MSA coding but it wasn't confirmed at the time. Can do outside but not sure warranty how. Go test 116d leh. Share with us ur view. I only tested 116d Start/stop. Othere Jap brand experience as passenger only.Furthermore I chk with SE on the MSA coding of Start/Stop, he claimed they used to do that but BMW stopped providing PmL the sw to do this coding since 1.5yrs ago.Ccsgl1900. U go ask ur SE abt the MsA memory coding leh... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicepal 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 that's what the SE told me too. Saying that BMW stop allowing them to do it in-house in view that it goes against their "intention" to reduce CO emission and also enhance fuel saving so some time ago they stop pend letting mL doing that. I guess "bobian" for such stuff, I probably just live with it. let it just ON and off during traffic jam. But if jam at custom, maybe still good to have it ON as will never know when the jam starts moving... ;) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_I_Am 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 The only problem I have is when I want to reverse into a parking lot. The car will go dead when I stop to change to reverse gear. Car only wakes up once I let go of my brake to reverse. Mecury1. Thanks for sharing. I am also pretty annoyed when the Start/stop wakes. up.... :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicepal 2nd Gear August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 But I think the Stop will kick in after brake for some time, (how much I am not very sure). So if you put to reverse gear in time should be ok, i guess.... Could recall if I tested that during the test drive as along the drive, SE did off and on the S/S to let me experience the feel and features of the S/S. but not sure if during back to PML, was it still ON. Because I parked back the 116d into their carpark but didn't remember noticing the S/S come into place when I put to Reverse Gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnc 1st Gear August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Anyone knows if this same 3-cyl diesel will go into a 3-series? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuyazzz 1st Gear August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Anyone knows if this same 3-cyl diesel will go into a 3-series? the 3-series will come with a 3-cylinder 1499cc petrol engine. Might be the same one(?) in the current 218i active tourer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehorse 1st Gear August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Go test 116d leh. Share with us ur view. I only tested 116d Start/stop. Othere Jap brand experience as passenger only. Furthermore I chk with SE on the MSA coding of Start/Stop, he claimed they used to do that but BMW stopped providing PmL the sw to do this coding since 1.5yrs ago. Ccsgl1900. U go ask ur SE abt the MsA memory coding leh... Hi nicepal Just to share regarding the start/stop button on bmw 116. 1) u can always deactivate it after starting yr engine, then throughout the journey it will not irritate you. 2) there are workshops outside that can change a lot of coding to the car, including disable the start/stop function. Many 1 series owner hv done it and you beed not worry about this at all. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 We have a 116i in the household, i flipped the numbers/letters, now it's a 911! Close enough :P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSG 1st Gear August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 the 3-series will come with a 3-cylinder 1499cc petrol engine. Might be the same one(?) in the current 218i active tourer. yes same engine as 218i AT and Mini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicepal 2nd Gear August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 the 3-series will come with a 3-cylinder 1499cc petrol engine. Might be the same one(?) in the current 218i active tourer. I know is 116d comes with 3 cylinder 1496cc twinpower turbo diesel engine Hi nicepal Just to share regarding the start/stop button on bmw 116. 1) u can always deactivate it after starting yr engine, then throughout the journey it will not irritate you. 2) there are workshops outside that can change a lot of coding to the car, including disable the start/stop function. Many 1 series owner hv done it and you beed not worry about this at all. Thanks for advising that, Firehorse. Knew about it. Just that this is my first bmw cum first conti car, so may have lots of questions.. ;) And since still greenhorn to this type of car, so probably will stay as it is for the time being until familar then see what can be done further to it... We have a 116i in the household, i flipped the numbers/letters, now it's a 911! Close enough :P If say so then our 116d flip will become P911 too.. Even closer.. ;) ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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