Ktglfc Hypersonic July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 Lots of volatility in the markets now... Those with weak hearts, better stay at side and observe... no harm :) i would think there is still a bit of downside to go, though far off from meltdown... ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu 5th Gear July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 shanghai index today closing is still above 3350 when it opened in Jan 15 I believe the concern now (as evident from your chart) is how quickly it fell to today's level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 (edited) that's the usual pattern of stock market bubble ma take 6 months to cheong from Jan to Jun with no economic support ... purely speculation news reported that ah gong ah ma ... ah beng ah lian ... all put in their life savings including pension money and sell house take mortgage, borrow money and loans to speculate stocks big players makan enough liao ... they have cashed out and let all the ignorance investors bleed yeah ... crash normally comes fast and furious ... in 2 weeks 120 billions yuan wiped out I believe the concern now (as evident from your chart) is how quickly it fell to today's level. Edited July 10, 2015 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 Hot can go Bondi beach.....many hot babes nudie 😋 Aussie gers with their aussie accent 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Hypersonic July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 Toothiewabbit, on 10 Jul 2015 - 12:49 PM, said: Aussie gers with their aussie accent lol ya...but maybe body language same 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 10, 2015 Share July 10, 2015 (edited) some critics said ... the chinese govt is making the same mistake as US Feds ... try to buy up the market ... instead of letting it to correct ... pump more money Among the latest intervention measures, the central People's Bank of China said on Thursday that it was providing liquidity to the state-backed China Securities Finance Corp. (CSF) to help stabilise the market, reaffirming an earlier pledge. In a separate announcement, the stock regulator said CSF will provide liquidity for investors to buy so-called "public funds" -- similar to mutual funds. Other recent moves include allowing insurance companies to invest more assets in stocks and a programme to buy the shares of smaller companies. On Thursday, six monitored insurance companies saw a net purchase of 15.1 billion yuan ($2.43 billion) in stocks and stock funds in a show of confidence, Xinhua reported, quoting China's insurance regulator. Edited July 10, 2015 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyfitms Twincharged July 15, 2015 Share July 15, 2015 some critics said ... the chinese govt is making the same mistake as US Feds ... try to buy up the market ... instead of letting it to correct ... pump more money let it correct is too painful/ bitter a medicine better to try and prop up the mkt.. who knows, there could be a miracle China represents the greatest investment opportunity of our life time. If you could go back in time and buy US shares at 1929 depressed prices, wouldn't you want to do it? Look at how much the US stock market has gone up since. then better hope china is like usa in 1929 and not japan in 1990 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic July 15, 2015 Share July 15, 2015 Stunned like vegetable......, Aiyoh, no need to stun lah just dont be in denial thats all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktglfc Hypersonic July 15, 2015 Share July 15, 2015 Stunned like vegetable......, Aiyoh, no need to stun lah just dont be in denial thats all Stock market still chiong leh ... weird ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury1 Turbocharged July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Too much excess cash floating in the system, funds stomped from one area will find home in another. Only an interest rate rise would stop that Stock market still chiong leh ... weird ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Too much excess cash floating in the system, funds stomped from one area will find home in another. Only an interest rate rise would stop that I just wanna ask. not trying to be funny if there is too much money, wouldn't interest rate drop? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Interest rate rise from US side by 2016. I doubt will be huge rise due to instability in China and Euro. But definitely will have to rise. Gold also dropping. I just wanna ask. not trying to be funny if there is too much money, wouldn't interest rate drop? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktglfc Hypersonic July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 The biggest instability should come from China rather than from Greece.... stock market balloon, land prices instability, etc... Maybe not now, but who knows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury1 Turbocharged July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Hrmm its very complicated relationship between the Fed and the interest rates, from my simplistic understand its work like this - Fed issues bonds to raise money - Money is loaned to banks at low rates to spur the economy - Fraction of it goes it the actual economy, most goes into property and stock market, bond market, commodities etc creating bubbles. The fed keeps the rates low to ensure the economy is kept ticking (also debt repayment low), once the economy is self sufficient enough then they would raise the rates to rein in inflation and debt loading which has it adverse impacts on the long term as well. http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/4927/economics/what-debt-levels-are-dangerous/ I just wanna ask. not trying to be funny if there is too much money, wouldn't interest rate drop? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Its actually very simple. They printed so much dollars that it is now worth as much as toilet paper. So if everyone took their wheel barrows of dollars into the shops to buy things at the same time there is too much money and not enough goods. So to prevent this the banks pay people to hold their money for them and the longer they hold their money the more money they will pay them. The amount of "more" money they will pay them is called "interest". Simply put if you let me hold your 10 rolls of toilet paper for one year, I will return you 11 rolls and the extra roll is the "interest". "Interest" is also known as the price of money. The more you give me to hold and the longer I hold it I will pay you more. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 (edited) SG Debt to GDP ratio is about 100% of GDP. Not counting reserves I think. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/singapore/government-debt-to-gdp Hrmm its very complicated relationship between the Fed and the interest rates, from my simplistic understand its work like this - Fed issues bonds to raise money - Money is loaned to banks at low rates to spur the economy - Fraction of it goes it the actual economy, most goes into property and stock market, bond market, commodities etc creating bubbles. The fed keeps the rates low to ensure the economy is kept ticking (also debt repayment low), once the economy is self sufficient enough then they would raise the rates to rein in inflation and debt loading which has it adverse impacts on the long term as well. http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/4927/economics/what-debt-levels-are-dangerous/ Edited July 21, 2015 by Seohster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrocarbon Turbocharged July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 the media or so call analyst/economist mostly jiak liao bi sti drop nia..sure have some excuses to use...like Greece...us unemployment rate up...weaker export figures......profit taking.......bla...bla ...bla ai koon liao Media, don't create news / stories, then really nothing to do. So, every small thing that can be reported on will be reported on lor.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porche 5th Gear July 21, 2015 Share July 21, 2015 Outside market already so quiet. Sales as compared to last year same period is so chum... Next year will be more gloomy ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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