Little_prince Supersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Why cannot criticise? If the guy is so big and strong then they should have taken better precautions and not left him with just one officer. Also, was he not restrained? Our famous Amos yee was handcuffed and shackled at the legs with 5-6 guards escorting him as he is some triad boss with his gang waiting to break him free. If this is the SOP for a keyboard warrior, then why was the SOP for this fellow so different? What crime was he caught for anyway? I don't think a simple shoplifter would have been desperate enough to do something like this. Please remember that our policemen are paid to encounter dangers like this. Yes, it would have been sad if he had been badly injured or killed but it would be even sadder if innocent bystanders had died due to our SPF's incompetence and negligence. There should be one but it probably sucks. As a "certified" auxiliary close combat instructor in the army, I can say this is all wayang and will not work in real life situations the poor kid may just be a NSF leh... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 the poor kid may just be a NSF leh... or fresh poly grad who signed on just for that 20k whatever bonus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 the poor kid may just be a NSF leh... Then that is sad and yet another reason to review the system. or fresh poly grad who signed on just for that 20k whatever bonus In this case, he took the money and he wants a free ride? Cannot be right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 .. Don't like this say leh. We do not know the full details yet. Maybe the 24yr old guy is a black belt taekwondo. And yes police officer do receive training on defence skills, but they are not invincible leh. So we should pray hard that the police officer to have a speedy recovery instead of criticise him. not criticise him but my prayer do go out to him in my prayer. coming back, i saw how prisoners escorted in handcuffs and shackled from top to bottom and it would be really surprising if he still cannot be restrained and was the proper protocol put in place and too much of a complacency ??? they are after all police man and not just civilian. There are duties and responsibilities expected of them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 not criticise him but my prayer do go out to him in my prayer. coming back, i saw how prisoners escorted in handcuffs and shackled from top to bottom and it would be really surprising if he still cannot be restrained and was the proper protocol put in place and too much of a complacency ??? they are after all police man and not just civilian. There are duties and responsibilities expected of them. Your standard too high already. Mai hiam buay pai already. If set standard too high, wait no one able to qualify the standard how? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Dirty Harry ya? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Did it happen in toilet? Lucky no other civilian was hurt in the struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Faking chest pains could mean removal of handcuffs even for dangerous criminals. It is always possible to find loopholes and exploit them. Most important takeaway is to have the sense of danger. 道高一尺, 魔高一丈。。。 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpsexx 6th Gear June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Confirm going to the gallows liao. Thank God no other people got hurt. Yup, going to gallows.. It's premeditated discharge of firearms to facilitate escape from custody.. Many points to question on spf sop. 1. Why suspect not handcuffed behind at all times 2. 1 policeman left the other one alone, with free handed suspect, in public area - no restraint on suspect facing only one police 3. Why baton is so easy taken 4. Pistol not secured enough to prevent effortless access.. What's the use of the lanyard? 5. Suspect fired 3 shots, shoot to kill to escape? Heng is bo bo shooter, or else policeman will have state funeral 6. With 2 more rounds in pistol, and in busy public area, would have ended with hostage taking situation in ktph. Then what? 7. Chest pains is excuse for suspect to find ways to escape.. Shooting is the trigger.. 8. Suspect is foreigner? I think no sinkie have the balls to hammer police to escape, let alone fire 3 shots to kill n run... Is lucky the policeman not killed and no other public lives endangered by this sop.. Must review spf sop for handling suspects in public areas, and the securing of policeman arms..many many questions to answer by govt, n to reassure public safety. Otherwise, all police actions are relegated to wayang.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camrysfa Turbocharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 if restraint in this way, unlikely able to grab baton / pistol ( illustrative only ..... haha ) I also believe the cop could have been swayed by the ''acting' and did the humane thing - removed the prisoner's restraints so that he can have a proper check up. Also lucky that the doctor or nurse inside the room not in line of fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurpsexx 6th Gear June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Your standard too high already. Mai hiam buay pai already. If set standard too high, wait no one able to qualify the standard how? I do believe the stds are adequate, its the people n sop not measuring up.. If we're to dumb down the stds just to get people to fill in, then we're just fooling ourselves n setting us up for failure..which in this case will hv dangerous consequences.. Hv to review the trg n sop of the cops to prevent a recurrence.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 or fresh poly grad who signed on just for that 20k whatever bonus well then the dangers behind the job which warrant the 20k bonus has just been justified... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 or fresh poly grad who signed on just for that 20k whatever bonus Don't think so la. The police officer already 31. Can't be fresh grad or NSF right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger1223 1st Gear June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Complacency and off guard. Hopefully our MIB shd take this lesson and learn to be on full balls when handling whoever criminal is. Looks like the SPF PR has abit of damage control to do, recent incidents have really tarnish our crime fighting force reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showster Twincharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 Complacency and off guard. Hopefully our MIB shd take this lesson and learn to be on full balls when handling whoever criminal is. Looks like the SPF PR has abit of damage control to do, recent incidents have really tarnish our crime fighting force reputation. It's not easy to be civil servants in modern days I imagine. If the criminal really dies of heart attack or some chest related stuff, there will be huge uproar and PR nightmare over why a dying criminal is not allowed to be released from handcuffs. We always make the best decisions after analyzing what happened. But really need to examine the SOP carefully to prevent relapse. For example having a standby cop with weapon while the main cop handling is generally weaponless? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthrevan Supercharged June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 i hear that SPF these days do not have a proper self-defense/martial arts program in place... krav maga needs to be taught to the whole of SPF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 krav maga needs to be taught to the whole of SPF agree. krav maga i believed is taught in SPF but whether some were paying attention or not is any thing altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic June 21, 2015 Share June 21, 2015 On hindsight, everything can be avoided. ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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