Atonchia Supersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Ok lar, I understand that this is an emo thread which is normal for many MCF fathers/ mothers to post strong opinions. Please restrain ourselves from accusation and name-calling. Our prayers are with the missing and the parents/siblings. . It's good to see we are still a bunch of people with emotions, in fact strong one. At least we proof the survey that Singaporeans are emotionless people wrong. We get emotional on issues when it's close to us, when we find relativity and some form of association with it. Just need to transfer this emotional energy to something positive. Energy is indestructible, it only get transformed. Let's hope these kids & teachers don't get too affected by the tragedy and no long term phobia. There's always differing views on everything but we will always wish for the best for the victims. I may say why organize this kind of trips for P6 now but some may say I am a strawberry farmer, well they are not wrong to point this out. I understand when you say why organised for primary 6 students. Because most overseas excursions are organized during pr 5. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Hope the news is not true....still having hopes that the rest can safely be back 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymondism Twincharged June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/06/06/sabah-quake-final-death-tally-19/ As of 4pm Saturday, Ranau police chief Deputy Supt Mohd Farhan Lee said they have recovered 13 bodies. "The search is still on for six more," he told reporters. Among those killed were 10 students of Tanjong Katong Primary School in Singapore. dunno legit or not Confirmed got mistake cos only 8 students were missing. The other 2 are teachers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 (edited) i walk up bkt timah hill already die, duno how can 12yr olds tackle a frigging mountain?!?! at least bkt timah hill doesnt have rockfalls or landslides!! also y they go sabah huh? y not just got mt ophir or penang hill, which is freaking tiring hiking up too? If you're into climbing, you will know that people climb KK to prepare for ophir. I just read an account from the owner of the company which manages the descent via ferrata. The sg kids were preparing to descent and were hooked onto ropes. They heard a rumbling sound and saw dust in the distance heading their way which turns out to be tons of rocks. They couldn't get out of the way due to the ropes. Unverified. Edited June 6, 2015 by Karoon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latio2005A Turbocharged June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 As a parent myself, my heart felt pain and condolences to those affected by this tragedy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 If you're into climbing, you will know that people climb KK to prepare for ophir yup! KK as I mentioned is a beautiful gradual slope. Scenic and breathtaking views. Ophir, a bit more steep incline and the last at Botak Hill vertical up. got lost once and survival instinct kicked in to follow the major streams and then found way back. Good experience though. Yes, as of now, we await for the news. Our hearts are really with the families of those affected. My prayers are with them all for peace during this difficult time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 This post came in fr fb. An excellent balanced post for the naysayers. Again, I reiterate, while the emotions are high. Kindly see perspective. It is with a very heavy heart as I write this. My younger son graduated from Tanjong Katong Primary School last year. And yes, he was among the privileged group of leaders selected for the Omega Challenge Mt K Expedition last year. It is a trip for selected leaders from the various CCAs in school for the graduating batch and the school has been running the programme for years. It is a simple trip, go to KK, stay a night. Climb Mt K, stay at Pendant Hut. Go Via Ferrata for some fun but challenging activities, go back Pendant Hut to rest. Next morning do summit climb, descend the mountain, stay a night. Home sweet home. No sight seeing, no shopping, no luxurious hotels, no great food. Yet my son had set his heart for the trip for years and actually consciously worked for it by getting into the school prefectorial board. Prior to the trip, the school scheduled for training sessions which included serious stairs climbing. Students were also encouraged to do their own training daily which many enthusiastically did. What did the students learned from such a trip? They learned to be prepared by building up their physical. They learned to look out for each other and cheered each other on when the going gets tough. They learned that they could have an enjoyable afternoon without mobile phones, iPads and other electronic gadgets by just chilling and playing board games with friends. They learned to make their own decisions, my boy did not feel too well when he reached Pendant Hut and he decided to forgo the next morning's Via Ferrata's activity so that he could be fully rested and ready for the summit climb the following day. He made the decision on his own, we only knew about it when he came back and recounted to us. They learned to accept setbacks, the whole team did not make it to the summit as the weather was unfavourable and the teacher made a decision to halt the climb. Some cried at the moment. So did they come back depressed and disappointed? No, they came back in high spirits for they had been through a valuable experience. Does the school have the full support of parents for this programme? I can't speak for others, but they have mine. Would the school have the courage to continue with programmes that is beneficial for students after this incident? I do hope so. Why am I writing this now? I just feel that at times like this when many families are still anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones, if we cannot say or do anything positive, let's at least not make things worse. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 This post came in fr fb. An excellent balanced post for the naysayers. Again, I reiterate, while the emotions are high. Kindly see perspective. It is with a very heavy heart as I write this. My younger son graduated from Tanjong Katong Primary School last year. And yes, he was among the privileged group of leaders selected for the Omega Challenge Mt K Expedition last year. It is a trip for selected leaders from the various CCAs in school for the graduating batch and the school has been running the programme for years. It is a simple trip, go to KK, stay a night. Climb Mt K, stay at Pendant Hut. Go Via Ferrata for some fun but challenging activities, go back Pendant Hut to rest. Next morning do summit climb, descend the mountain, stay a night. Home sweet home. No sight seeing, no shopping, no luxurious hotels, no great food. Yet my son had set his heart for the trip for years and actually consciously worked for it by getting into the school prefectorial board. Prior to the trip, the school scheduled for training sessions which included serious stairs climbing. Students were also encouraged to do their own training daily which many enthusiastically did. What did the students learned from such a trip? They learned to be prepared by building up their physical. They learned to look out for each other and cheered each other on when the going gets tough. They learned that they could have an enjoyable afternoon without mobile phones, iPads and other electronic gadgets by just chilling and playing board games with friends. They learned to make their own decisions, my boy did not feel too well when he reached Pendant Hut and he decided to forgo the next morning's Via Ferrata's activity so that he could be fully rested and ready for the summit climb the following day. He made the decision on his own, we only knew about it when he came back and recounted to us. They learned to accept setbacks, the whole team did not make it to the summit as the weather was unfavourable and the teacher made a decision to halt the climb. Some cried at the moment. So did they come back depressed and disappointed? No, they came back in high spirits for they had been through a valuable experience. Does the school have the full support of parents for this programme? I can't speak for others, but they have mine. Would the school have the courage to continue with programmes that is beneficial for students after this incident? I do hope so. Why am I writing this now? I just feel that at times like this when many families are still anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones, if we cannot say or do anything positive, let's at least not make things worse. Great share! I think there is always a group who support such activities and the others who don't and it's ok Having different perspectives in life is usual and common Great to see many fellow mcfers who truly cares about this group of kids and it's heartening that many are very compassionate too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 This post came in fr fb. An excellent balanced post for the naysayers. Again, I reiterate, while the emotions are high. Kindly see perspective. It is with a very heavy heart as I write this. My younger son graduated from Tanjong Katong Primary School last year. And yes, he was among the privileged group of leaders selected for the Omega Challenge Mt K Expedition last year. It is a trip for selected leaders from the various CCAs in school for the graduating batch and the school has been running the programme for years. It is a simple trip, go to KK, stay a night. Climb Mt K, stay at Pendant Hut. Go Via Ferrata for some fun but challenging activities, go back Pendant Hut to rest. Next morning do summit climb, descend the mountain, stay a night. Home sweet home. No sight seeing, no shopping, no luxurious hotels, no great food. Yet my son had set his heart for the trip for years and actually consciously worked for it by getting into the school prefectorial board. Prior to the trip, the school scheduled for training sessions which included serious stairs climbing. Students were also encouraged to do their own training daily which many enthusiastically did. What did the students learned from such a trip? They learned to be prepared by building up their physical. They learned to look out for each other and cheered each other on when the going gets tough. They learned that they could have an enjoyable afternoon without mobile phones, iPads and other electronic gadgets by just chilling and playing board games with friends. They learned to make their own decisions, my boy did not feel too well when he reached Pendant Hut and he decided to forgo the next morning's Via Ferrata's activity so that he could be fully rested and ready for the summit climb the following day. He made the decision on his own, we only knew about it when he came back and recounted to us. They learned to accept setbacks, the whole team did not make it to the summit as the weather was unfavourable and the teacher made a decision to halt the climb. Some cried at the moment. So did they come back depressed and disappointed? No, they came back in high spirits for they had been through a valuable experience. Does the school have the full support of parents for this programme? I can't speak for others, but they have mine. Would the school have the courage to continue with programmes that is beneficial for students after this incident? I do hope so. Why am I writing this now? I just feel that at times like this when many families are still anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones, if we cannot say or do anything positive, let's at least not make things worse. Good post. Thanks for sharing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Great share! I think there is always a group who support such activities and the others who don't and it's ok Having different perspectives in life is usual and common Great to see many fellow mcfers who truly cares about this group of kids and it's heartening that many are very compassionate too Yes I'm sure all here are and we get carried away Thus, we still Hv to accord the necessary in order to contain emotions that run high That's what the mods are for Peace Good post. Thanks for sharing. Especially his last para. Excellent way to end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 This post came in fr fb. An excellent balanced post for the naysayers. Again, I reiterate, while the emotions are high. Kindly see perspective. It is with a very heavy heart as I write this. My younger son graduated from Tanjong Katong Primary School last year. And yes, he was among the privileged group of leaders selected for the Omega Challenge Mt K Expedition last year. It is a trip for selected leaders from the various CCAs in school for the graduating batch and the school has been running the programme for years. It is a simple trip, go to KK, stay a night. Climb Mt K, stay at Pendant Hut. Go Via Ferrata for some fun but challenging activities, go back Pendant Hut to rest. Next morning do summit climb, descend the mountain, stay a night. Home sweet home. No sight seeing, no shopping, no luxurious hotels, no great food. Yet my son had set his heart for the trip for years and actually consciously worked for it by getting into the school prefectorial board. Prior to the trip, the school scheduled for training sessions which included serious stairs climbing. Students were also encouraged to do their own training daily which many enthusiastically did. What did the students learned from such a trip? They learned to be prepared by building up their physical. They learned to look out for each other and cheered each other on when the going gets tough. They learned that they could have an enjoyable afternoon without mobile phones, iPads and other electronic gadgets by just chilling and playing board games with friends. They learned to make their own decisions, my boy did not feel too well when he reached Pendant Hut and he decided to forgo the next morning's Via Ferrata's activity so that he could be fully rested and ready for the summit climb the following day. He made the decision on his own, we only knew about it when he came back and recounted to us. They learned to accept setbacks, the whole team did not make it to the summit as the weather was unfavourable and the teacher made a decision to halt the climb. Some cried at the moment. So did they come back depressed and disappointed? No, they came back in high spirits for they had been through a valuable experience. Does the school have the full support of parents for this programme? I can't speak for others, but they have mine. Would the school have the courage to continue with programmes that is beneficial for students after this incident? I do hope so. Why am I writing this now? I just feel that at times like this when many families are still anxiously waiting for news of their loved ones, if we cannot say or do anything positive, let's at least not make things worse. his kid is safe of cse say such things lah. if his kid is missing now, he wil feel the same as above? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 his kid is safe of cse say such things lah. if his kid is missing now, he wil feel the same as above? Let's not read too much into intention and look at the greater goal of trying to calm emotions as surely there will b lots of emotions running around in TKPS 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wishcumstrue 6th Gear June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Confirmed got mistake cos only 8 students were missing. The other 2 are teachers. The online version has been corrected just moments ago. http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/06/06/sabah-quake-final-death-tally-19/ The figure "10" has been removed from the previous report. However the sentence still implies more than 1 casualties - "those killed were students of Tanjong Katong Primary School" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoon Turbocharged June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Ophir, a bit more steep incline and the last at Botak Hill vertical up. got lost once and survival instinct kicked in to follow the major streams and then found way back. Good experience though. . Seriously? The exact same thing happened to my group 20 years ago. LoL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othello Supersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 This post came in fr fb. An excellent balanced post for the naysayers. Again, I reiterate, while the emotions are high. Kindly see perspective. yes, a good read that makes sense. But then again, that is his choice and behaviour as a parent. Things are not always black and white and do not have to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 yes, a good read that makes sense. But then again, that is his choice and behaviour as a parent. Things are not always black and white and do not have to be. Well said bro. Agree w u on this Seriously? The exact same thing happened to my group 20 years ago. LoL! Skali u n I same group haaaa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achtung 6th Gear June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 Saw a pic on FB showing bodies on the bottom of a mountain. Saw some bodies wearing distinctive red t shirts... worn by some TKPS pupils. Being a parent, my heart sank.... :~( http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/06/06/sabah-quake-final-death-tally-19/ As of 4pm Saturday, Ranau police chief Deputy Supt Mohd Farhan Lee said they have recovered 13 bodies. "The search is still on for six more," he told reporters. Among those killed were 10 students of Tanjong Katong Primary School in Singapore. dunno legit or not 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic June 6, 2015 Share June 6, 2015 prior to the incident, i was planning to go for the climb and thus read up on the route to climb. i am very surprised the children took Via Ferrata which looked more adventurous through the photo. correct me if i am wrong. need to take the higher risk climb???? as a parent i would support such activity as its good for self growth but simultaneously worry about their safety too. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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