Tohto Hypersonic June 1, 2015 Share June 1, 2015 new Mondeo damn nice.. I like.. but bolui A 730i owner said boh lui... boh li you... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 1, 2015 Share June 1, 2015 A 730i owner said boh lui... boh li you... All lui inside the 730i already la Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic June 1, 2015 Share June 1, 2015 new Mondeo damn nice.. I like.. but bolui You bo lui....then dont know what to say liao...... Hahaha..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teik 1st Gear June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 I assume some of the contributors here have driven the S60? I would just like to ask if anyone had the same experience I had. I drove a brand new S60 in 2011 in Germany (was trying to get the also new A6 but being rental, you get what's available) from Berlin to Frankfurt. My brother and I took turns to drive the car to Frankfurt where we were to change to Cayman S's for our driving trip but that's another travelogue story if there is any interest. Coming back to the S60. We had 500+km to drive the car between the two of us and this was our common finding. While competent, the car did not have any feel in the steering, no road feedback at all. It seems dead. We drove the car to 200kmph on certain Autobahn sections but there was hardly any feel in the steering. The other thing for me was that after that long drive, I had a sore lower back. The seat did not feel 100% to me no matter how I adjusted the seat. Did anyone here have the same experience? Or perhaps the people at Volvo had made changes to these issues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason016 Supersonic June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 I assume some of the contributors here have driven the S60? I would just like to ask if anyone had the same experience I had. I drove a brand new S60 in 2011 in Germany (was trying to get the also new A6 but being rental, you get what's available) from Berlin to Frankfurt. My brother and I took turns to drive the car to Frankfurt where we were to change to Cayman S's for our driving trip but that's another travelogue story if there is any interest. Coming back to the S60. We had 500+km to drive the car between the two of us and this was our common finding. While competent, the car did not have any feel in the steering, no road feedback at all. It seems dead. We drove the car to 200kmph on certain Autobahn sections but there was hardly any feel in the steering. The other thing for me was that after that long drive, I had a sore lower back. The seat did not feel 100% to me no matter how I adjusted the seat. Did anyone here have the same experience? Or perhaps the people at Volvo had made changes to these issues? I've driven the S60 (2011 model) to 236km/h. The steering is relatively light, feels very planted to the road and I can feel the road through the steering wheel. Did you adjust the lumbar portion of the seat? It's that cog wheel on the side of the driver's seat. That may have been sticking too far out and given you grief. To date, I haven't found a better driver's sear than a volvo. Many other drivers seat, I can't wait to get out of the car. They are either too stiff or feel absolutely mushy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teik 1st Gear June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 I've driven the S60 (2011 model) to 236km/h. The steering is relatively light, feels very planted to the road and I can feel the road through the steering wheel. Did you adjust the lumbar portion of the seat? It's that cog wheel on the side of the driver's seat. That may have been sticking too far out and given you grief. To date, I haven't found a better driver's sear than a volvo. Many other drivers seat, I can't wait to get out of the car. They are either too stiff or feel absolutely mushy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civic6228 6th Gear June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 The specs for both cars are very decent .... I was tempted with the S60 as well ... 245 bhp, 350 NM and 0 to 100 km/h in 6.3 seconds. But ... wowo .... and I cant get over with the central console. Ford .... unless drive for 10 years ... resale is poor. For event cars, i believe owner is still 1 owner.. just that you loan the car to them for the event and get back when the event is completed. Thinks about it ... they still selling the event car. For BMW, the cars are all gone before you heard the news..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teik 1st Gear June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 I've driven the S60 (2011 model) to 236km/h. The steering is relatively light, feels very planted to the road and I can feel the road through the steering wheel. Did you adjust the lumbar portion of the seat? It's that cog wheel on the side of the driver's seat. That may have been sticking too far out and given you grief. To date, I haven't found a better driver's sear than a volvo. Many other drivers seat, I can't wait to get out of the car. They are either too stiff or feel absolutely mushy. Mushy. That's the word that escaped me earlier. The seat in that S60 we drove was just that. I don't think we fiddled with the lumbar support either. The drive itself was alright. It was only at the end that the soreness in the back was felt. So you and I had different experiences with the car. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 The other thing for me was that after that long drive, I had a sore lower back. The seat did not feel 100% to me no matter how I adjusted the seat. have to spend some time to adjust until comfortable. steering feel is lacking compared to Mondeo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 2, 2015 Share June 2, 2015 (edited) Mushy. That's the word that escaped me earlier. The seat in that S60 we drove was just that. I don't think we fiddled with the lumbar support either. The drive itself was alright. It was only at the end that the soreness in the back was felt. So you and I had different experiences with the car. I've never had the chance to sit in a Volvo for more than a few minutes so I am in no position to judge... But when sitting in one for a while I don't find the claim from some reviewers of "best seats in the industry" farfetched... But again I say, I'm in no position to judge The specs for both cars are very decent .... I was tempted with the S60 as well ... 245 bhp, 350 NM and 0 to 100 km/h in 6.3 seconds. Seems to me the Mondeo is more than "decent"... it's loaded to the kitchen sink with equipment... Unless you are just referring to performance spec, in which case the Volvo wins by a wide margin... until you look for skidpad numbers. C&D scored 0.88g on the pad with a 2.0L EcoBoost AWD Fusion. Edited June 2, 2015 by 7hm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 I've never had the chance to sit in a Volvo for more than a few minutes so I am in no position to judge... But when sitting in one for a while I don't find the claim from some reviewers of "best seats in the industry" farfetched... But again I say, I'm in no position to judge Seems to me the Mondeo is more than "decent"... it's loaded to the kitchen sink with equipment... Unless you are just referring to performance spec, in which case the Volvo wins by a wide margin... until you look for skidpad numbers. C&D scored 0.88g on the pad with a 2.0L EcoBoost AWD Fusion. So did Mz6 and US Accord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 So did Mz6 and US Accord? If you are referring to skidpad; don't forget that the Fusion in question weighs about 223kg more than the Mazda 6 and 211kg more than the Honda Accord in question. Consider that the Fusion is able to pull the same skidpad Gs while lugging and extra 400lb... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear June 3, 2015 Share June 3, 2015 If you are referring to skidpad; don't forget that the Fusion in question weighs about 223kg more than the Mazda 6 and 211kg more than the Honda Accord in question. Consider that the Fusion is able to pull the same skidpad Gs while lugging and extra 400lb... I fail to see any advantage to performance in a heavier car... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 4, 2015 Share June 4, 2015 I fail to see any advantage to performance in a heavier car... There may not be an advantage, but it's worth noting when considering cornering performance. It's an achievement in its own way, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc 3rd Gear June 4, 2015 Share June 4, 2015 There may not be an advantage, but it's worth noting when considering cornering performance. It's an achievement in its own way, isn't it? That's no bragging right! Maybe a saving grace, a small saving grace for over eating =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason016 Supersonic June 4, 2015 Share June 4, 2015 That's no bragging right! Maybe a saving grace, a small saving grace for over eating =) I'd rather an over-engineered wowo (read: heavy + boron steel) than a milo tin can. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoverofCar 6th Gear June 4, 2015 Share June 4, 2015 I'd rather an over-engineered wowo (read: heavy + boron steel) than a milo tin can. Many tin can bolehland car also can fly in NSHW...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged June 4, 2015 Share June 4, 2015 Many tin can bolehland car also can fly in NSHW...... but then must pray the tin-can crumple zones are well engineered... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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