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Thanks Richard for the sharing.

 

For option 1: AP 4 Pots front only, I am looking at about 3.5k to 4k

For option 2: Taiwan brand (FORCE) 6/4, I am looking at 4.5k

There is an option 3 of APi Racing 6/4 at 6.2k which I find over-priced.

 

These are my considerations:

Option 1 - 4 Pots BBK Front from a reputable and proven brand is good enough. Anything wrong, at least a lot of shop carry parts for that brand. Probably have better resale value. But of course the look will be incomplete because I don't do the rear.

 

Option 2 - A 6/4 taiwan brand will offer much better braking than just a front 4 Pots. But of course, quality and reliability is something I will only know after I try. Parts availability might also be an issue.

 

Option 3 - The marketing gimmick is that you get what you paid for and a more expensive taiwan brand BBK will be better than a cheaper BBK. But then again, at 6.2K, I can almost do a 6 Pots AP front BBK.

 

From your sharing, I am now more incline towards getting a taiwan brand BBK. But the problem now is that there are just too many brands out there. Where did you get your K-Sport?

 

Hi Loudexhaust,

 

I was in the same dilemma few month ago with my fxt, including not wanting to spend sgd8-9k for betta brand but wanting 6/4 setup since fxt is quite a powerhouse and hence hope my sharing helps ....

 

Did not intend to get bbk for my fxt but driving it with past experience with estima with 4 pot front only from taiwanese JBT and finding stock fxt brakes lacking prompted me to change out ... not into tracking or chiongster uncle but I am 100% on lane 1.

 

It is certainly ok to go with option 1 but option 2 will certainly offer better braking performance and can be nicer looking with especially the smallish stock rear rotor and caliper.  As such, the only reason is for option 1 on AP Racing will be for branding which is also ok for self satisfaction depending on what rocks your balls but do ensure you get from reputed shop since there are so many fakes around.  BTW, you do not have to worrying about resale value since cost associated with removal and fitting and whether if direct replacement makes it hardly a contention point to me ...  just refer to Carousell for low cost of even branded used ones.

 

Not sure what your quotes were but Rlogic 6/4 from Taiwan is 3k with 355mm/330mm rotors which was my origin purchase but I decided to upgrade to KSport 6/4 at 4k also from Taiwan but more reputed ok popularity in USA and most importantly,  2 other factors - with dust cover design and available replacement pads by other brands unlike Rlogic that only use D1 Spec pads ... same like JBT that rendered worthless when dekitted from my estima.  Rlogic has nice color compared to typical branded red, black, gold etc. and KSport even has kim kim anodised finish if you are willing to pay but I opted out since hardly to maintain and just have it spray silver with Subaru logo ... lol !

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

 

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Thanks Richard for the sharing.

 

For option 1: AP 4 Pots front only, I am looking at about 3.5k to 4k

For option 2: Taiwan brand (FORCE) 6/4, I am looking at 4.5k

There is an option 3 of APi Racing 6/4 at 6.2k which I find over-priced.

 

These are my considerations:

Option 1 - 4 Pots BBK Front from a reputable and proven brand is good enough. Anything wrong, at least a lot of shop carry parts for that brand. Probably have better resale value. But of course the look will be incomplete because I don't do the rear.

 

Option 2 - A 6/4 taiwan brand will offer much better braking than just a front 4 Pots. But of course, quality and reliability is something I will only know after I try. Parts availability might also be an issue.

 

Option 3 - The marketing gimmick is that you get what you paid for and a more expensive taiwan brand BBK will be better than a cheaper BBK. But then again, at 6.2K, I can almost do a 6 Pots AP front BBK.

 

From your sharing, I am now more incline towards getting a taiwan brand BBK. But the problem now is that there are just too many brands out there. Where did you get your K-Sport?

Hi Loudexhaust,

 

Most welcomed and glad you find some use from my experience ...

 

KSport and rLogic are both available from Racing Technik c/o Ricky and just google Ksport to find many reviews from USA .. some bad and some good.

 

My experience with taiwanese brands of JBT for 8 yrs in estima, rlogic in qashqai for 2 yrs and Ksport in fxt for last 5 mths especially the latter with mentioned dust cap, replacement pads options and without part availability concerns are fine ... sure way betta than stock but not into bbk per se to pay 9k Brembo or 15k Motiv for my sgd17k omv fxt and sgd4k is already a luxury to me ..lol !

 

Should you decide on AP or Brembo (genuine ones !), some good sharing from other fxt bros is that AP is more aggresive while brembo is more progressive but other bros here can share further but to me, bbk to bbk variation is small unless you are into hardcore tracking.

 

Should you wish to test drive what Ksport 6/4 is about, pls PM me.

 

Btw for notable improvement at minimal cost, rlogic front big 4 is 1.3k with free rear steel braided stainless hose aka ssbh and marked improvement from stock ... for my estima, I went trd sport pads, then goodridge ssbh and even slot rotors but never looked back after then sgd1.6k front big 4 JBT except why I went 1 big round and spent almost twice the amount ..haha !

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

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In fact, now they don't do hard wire for parking surveillance mode.

 

But can I ask outside WS to do hardwire for parking surveillance mode when do the video camera installation?

 

usually hardwire is directly to battery or fuse box?

 

Because my SE told me that MI do not do the hardwire for parking surveillance mode anymore due to battery issue.

 

But if I want to do it outside, will it void the warranty?

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Is Ksport a USA brand? From what I found online, seems like it. How much did you spend for your 6/4 with installation?

 

Hi Loudexhaust,

Most welcomed and glad you find some use from my experience ...

KSport and rLogic are both available from Racing Technik c/o Ricky and just google Ksport to find many reviews from USA .. some bad and some good.

My experience with taiwanese brands of JBT for 8 yrs in estima, rlogic in qashqai for 2 yrs and Ksport in fxt for last 5 mths especially the latter with mentioned dust cap, replacement pads options and without part availability concerns are fine ... sure way betta than stock but not into bbk per se to pay 9k Brembo or 15k Motiv for my sgd17k omv fxt and sgd4k is already a luxury to me ..lol !

Should you decide on AP or Brembo (genuine ones !), some good sharing from other fxt bros is that AP is more aggresive while brembo is more progressive but other bros here can share further but to me, bbk to bbk variation is small unless you are into hardcore tracking.

Should you wish to test drive what Ksport 6/4 is about, pls PM me.

Btw for notable improvement at minimal cost, rlogic front big 4 is 1.3k with free rear steel braided stainless hose aka ssbh and marked improvement from stock ... for my estima, I went trd sport pads, then goodridge ssbh and even slot rotors but never looked back after then sgd1.6k front big 4 JBT except why I went 1 big round and spent almost twice the amount ..haha !

Cheers.

Richard

 

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But can I ask outside WS to do hardwire for parking surveillance mode when do the video camera installation?

 

usually hardwire is directly to battery or fuse box?

 

Because my SE told me that MI do not do the hardwire for parking surveillance mode anymore due to battery issue.

 

But if I want to do it outside, will it void the warranty?

 

Hi Epsilon,

 

If you intend to do parking surveillance mode, please consider additional  cost of those DVR extra battery or gave up the idea altogether.

 

Too many car owners I know from almost 300 strong whatsapp qashqai had bad experience and frustration of pre-matured failing of battery due to penny wise of just using stock car battery and some owners also regret not getting such extra battery even with magic pro that cut off voltage at preset limit of say 12.1v etc. as they found recording had stopped when they needed it most.  Granted, it depends very much if you are always on the road to charge up your battery or if you only drive to/fro work that means little recharging and long period of parking surveillance mode.

 

Your car battery is designed for handling car electronics and has finite charging and recharging cycles and parking surveillance mode certainly uses up this charging and recharging cycles .... using the right tools for the right jobs to me is actually penny wise too .. these DVR battery are using different lithium technology that recharges fast and hold charges well.

 

With added DVR battery, it is isolated from the car battery and you would connect it to fuse box.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

Is Ksport a USA brand? From what I found online, seems like it. How much did you spend for your 6/4 with installation?

 

Hi Loudexhaust,

 

No, it is Taiwanese but one of the more reputed ones if not the most reputed with wide products offering, including ceramic rotors, forged rims etc.

 

They had been in USA tracking scene for quite some time and hence with its supporters in additional to UK and Australia.

 

You may have missed the price of KSport 6/4 with same front/rear 356mm rotors here:

 

Not sure what your quotes were but Rlogic 6/4 from Taiwan is 3k with 355mm/330mm rotors which was my origin purchase but I decided to upgrade to KSport 6/4 at 4k also from Taiwan but more reputed ok popularity in USA and most importantly,  2 other factors - with dust cover design and available replacement pads by other brands unlike Rlogic that only use D1 Spec pads ... same like JBT that rendered worthless when dekitted from my estima.  Rlogic has nice color compared to typical branded red, black, gold etc. and KSport even has kim kim anodised finish if you are willing to pay but I opted out since hardly to maintain and just have it spray silver with Subaru logo ... lol !

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

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But can I ask outside WS to do hardwire for parking surveillance mode when do the video camera installation?

 

usually hardwire is directly to battery or fuse box?

 

Because my SE told me that MI do not do the hardwire for parking surveillance mode anymore due to battery issue.

 

But if I want to do it outside, will it void the warranty?

 

Hi Epsilon,

 

MI does not do hardwire probably because they learnt the same as shared in my post.

 

Hard question to answer but what warranty for what are you worried about ?  If you bearing make sound or your radiator leakage, I do not believe you will accept void of warranty to replace them for free right ??  Not good enough answer for you I believe but also believe you will find the answer within my response.

 

For betta illustration, I was unfortunately enough to have bad noisy front left bearing that resulted in me changing tyres twice from stock to Scorpion Verdes and then to CPC 6 before settling for Primacy 3 ST in short 2 month and while I already changed BBK, rims and tyres, I got my bad bearing replaced under warranty since change of new bearing resolved the issue ... that was my calmly discussed agreement with the Service leader and they honored it.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

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I know there's a local brand cj dynamics, offer monoblock which is lighter too. Perhaps you may want to consider this too.

https://m.facebook.com/cj.com.sg

 

Hi Kayaloti,

 

One of the nicest looking non branded BBK and believe Taiwanese made also ... possibly from D1 Spec like Rlogic.

 

However, I did not venture further as I was looking for the cheapest 3k Rlogic and then the arguably more reputed KSport also forged but not sure lighter or heavy ... especially on dustcover, least concern on parts, including replacement pads.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

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Hi guys, I am driving a FNA and is considering changing to BBK. I donât race on track. Just want better braking power when I need it and of course better looks.

Is it okie to just change BBK for the front and keep the rear stock?

 

I am looking at 2 options:

1. AP Racing 4 pots front and stock for rear

2. Taiwan brand 6/4

 

Both will cost about the same... can bros here comment or share your setup and experience? Thank you!

AP racing, Brembo.. many many fakes in the market so you have to careful.
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AP racing, Brembo.. many many fakes in the market so you have to careful.

Hey Chucky,

 

Indeed and hope my KSport is not fake .. lol !

 

But more seriously, I also went to find out recon, used etc. and decided on new, warrantied and sure not faked Taiwanese and moved on with great braking performance on even nshway.

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

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Hi guys, any idea where spore can buy this, or better up north? TIA!attachicon.gifIMG-20180327-WA0000.jpg

 

Hi Mrbms,

 

Are your referring to side impact protection molding or the side step ?

 

If the latter, AWS at Kaki Bukit has cool retractable ones at 1.7k but if not retractable ones or side molding, taobao, aliexpress etc. would make sense to save quite a bit.

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

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Calling out FNA bros,

 

2 FNA owners checked with me on suitable disable start-stop module after seeing that I am anti-"start-stop" but seems that the local shop that I know at Serangoon road only can handle Harrier which I did so for my FIL without any issue.

 

As such, I am asking the UK designer for 1.2 Qashqai owners who I did MO for almost 100 modules to provide me the wiring schematic for the same for FNA but would only make sense for at least 5 if not 10 units for lower cost of shipping them.

 

Should you be interested, including the 2 previous FNA owners, please PM me before end of next week to consolidate the order quantity which will be less than SGD100 including installation but please do not query me on MI's warranty as I am not MI but all 100 qashqai owner leave it enable during service but I do not know MI enough to advise.

 

Please also note that:

 

- this is not hard wired passive components of capacitors, resistance etc. used like the one I used in my FIL's harrier but with programmable IC with customised software which has the advantage of disable and enable following some simple instructions

- at cost and national service project called anti-"start-stop" as with the case of qashqai MO

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

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