2015 Forester 2.0

[mrhan1982]

Could the hk system really be better than mazda's bose system?

 

I was seriously considering a 2.5L maz6 before I crave for FXT....

 

Actually i used to own the first gen of CX-5 (for 7 months) and it came with the same BOSE 6 speakers sound system as the mazda 6. Go hear it yourself. With 2 additional speakers and higher power, i find the clarify and bass to be much better. Of course, assuming that u have done the necessary tweaking under equalizer settings based on your own preference. 

 

The 2.0 CX5 has quite good initial pick up, and that's about it. At mid to high speeds, it feels really heavy, more especially when fully loaded with passengers. I'm speaking in terms of the 2.0 skyactive engine. For Mazda 6 which has a much lighter weight, i guess the pick up should better. only problem with mazda's sedans (even for the 6) is the lack of interior space. For big size people, it really feels quite cramp.

Lastly, the skyactive engines are pretty noisy during initial accelerations.

[DioPian]

Go test both bro. Sound is very personal and its individual liking. Bring along your favourite CD and test on both cars...then come let us know your preference.

I've actually tested both 2 mths ago. But at that time of prelim testing, I wasnt that interested in the audio system as much as the handling & performance of those vehicles. So I had the audio turned off to assess the noise insulation & engine noise.

 

To me, I find the 2.5L Maz6 beats the other JP sedans around that price range (sorry, Legacy owners, just my opinion). But Legacy gives a very close fight on overall package, I like its roomier cabin over the Maz6.

 

For SUVs, FXT is a no-horse-run! Nothing comes close....

[Cboonh]

Could the hk system really be better than mazda's bose system?

 

I was seriously considering a 2.5L maz6 before I crave for FXT....

Ask most audiophile... BOSE stands for buy.other.sound.equipment. :P

 

Nothing fantastic. HK is nothing to shout about also. :/

[Legacygts]

I've actually tested both 2 mths ago. But at that time of prelim testing, I wasnt that interested in the audio system as much as the handling & performance of those vehicles. So I had the audio turned off to assess the noise insulation & engine noise.

 

To me, I find the 2.5L Maz6 beats the other JP sedans around that price range (sorry, Legacy owners, just my opinion). But Legacy gives a very close fight on overall package, I like its roomier cabin over the Maz6.

 

For SUVs, FXT is a no-horse-run! Nothing comes close....

Agree with you bro.. FXT is a balance of value, performance and reasonable functionality.. Actually beside a good system, ppl need to consider insulation, door panels and dsp.. Its not just whether the sound system is good or not or if it is paper cone or whatever cone.. There r many brands with good sound system but r we willing to pay??.. Thats the question.. Lexus ML is one good system..

[Muser]

I've actually tested both 2 mths ago. But at that time of prelim testing, I wasnt that interested in the audio system as much as the handling & performance of those vehicles. So I had the audio turned off to assess the noise insulation & engine noise.

 

To me, I find the 2.5L Maz6 beats the other JP sedans around that price range (sorry, Legacy owners, just my opinion). But Legacy gives a very close fight on overall package, I like its roomier cabin over the Maz6.

 

For SUVs, FXT is a no-horse-run! Nothing comes close....

Hey, when deciding how to spend $100k+ of our hard-earned money, we're all definitely entitled to our own opinions

[DioPian]

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For Mazda 6 which has a much lighter weight, i guess the pick up should better. only problem with mazda's sedans (even for the 6) is the lack of interior space. For big size people, it really feels quite cramp.

Lastly, the skyactive engines are pretty noisy during initial accelerations.

I felt the same about the Maz6, Low headroom. Also, the hood is a little too high. But it delivers a nice drive with great features. Then again, I have enough of driving sedans. I'm looking for a change....

[DioPian]

Hey, when deciding how to spend $100k+ of our hard-earned money, we're all definitely entitled to our own opinions

[Sarion]

not should be, they ARE LED.

 

see under 視界, LED high/low beam

http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/spec/

 

The headlights should be full LED including main lights.

HID/Xenon simi Bi-Xenon now passe liao haha

 

and yes you are very right, LED is technology of today, laser is technology of tomorrow.

HID can never be superbright for Subaru's 55W lamp, even my current 3600lumen HID is not bright enough compared to a conti car 110W HID...

[Pocus]

 

Is it.?. I not expert but read on sgcarmart under promo tab (extracted below) says HID. Under spec tab says LED. I thought it was LED and then thought I was mistaken as it was HID. I dont know how to tell my looking at the light :-)

ALL NEW 2016 SUBARU FORESTER (KEY FEATURES)

- Direct Injection Turbo 2.0 Boxer Engine with 240 bhp (2.0XT).

- DOHC Boxer Engine with 150 bhp (2.0i-L).

- Premium Audio System (Touch Screen).

- Push Start Ignition.

- PIN Code Access.

- Voice Recognition system (Command Speech).

- Keyless Access (Touch Sensor type).

- 8-way Power Adjustable Front Driver and Passenger Seats.

- X-MODE for Easy driving on any road.

- Rear Vision Camera.

- HID Headlamps with Headlamp Washers.

- Dual-zone Auto Air-Con.

- Large Power Glass Sunroof.

- Paddle Shift.

- Subaru Intelligent Drive.

- Sports Grill & Front Sport Bumper (2.0XT).

- Twin Tail Muffler (2.0XT).

- 7 SRS Airbag (including Driver Knee Airbag).

- Harman Kardon Speakers (2.0XT).

- Aluminium Pedal (2.0XT).

- 8-Speed CVT with 3 Driving Modes (2.0XT).

- Power Rear Gate with Memory Function (2.0XT).

- 5 years or 100,000km warranty.

- Fuel consumption: 7.9 - 8.5L /100 km.

- CO2 Emission: 182 - 197g/km.

HID headlamp

 

LED Headlamp

[ECONOMIC]

Truth be known. Audiophile forum almost never see bose and HK discussion. Based on my past 10 years of daily visit to audiopile forum. They are not brands known to produce good sound quality. Forget about sound quality with them. Just enjoy whatever that comes fitted in your car. I have only seen two brands fitted in car that are known by audio guys. Meridian in mercs and dynaudio in (can't remember).unless car audio is a different world than home/pro audio, then I am wrong. Doubt so.

Edited July 12, 2016 by ECONOMIC

[BenTong]

Change audio system with amp and woofer set is a big job. I saw my Friend's brand new 320 kenna rip apart and having all the door panels and etc parts all over the workshop floor. Very heart pain experience. Quite painful to watch. Lol. He did a customised sound setup with dunno wat German stuff and get pro to tune. In the end, I commented That his sound system sounded weird. All the vocals sounded ultra sharp and irritating to the ears and some sounds end up muffled. Really unbalanced and weird.

 

Not just the additional wiring alone but he amp and woofer also took up quite some space in the boot. His a pillars also need to drill holes. Very scary...

Bro..totally Agree. I am just being naughty.. Are we buying a 240hp car are we buying a sound system?

 

Well if really not happy with sound system then can do the following:

 

(1) install sound insulation & "cancellation" then see whether sound is ok

(2) install a plug and play tuner but make sure you get a good an installer

(3) don't rely on installer to help you to tune.. Do it yourself.. Only you know what is right for you

(4) change the whole freaking system and face warranty issues with MI

(5) all the above will need some serious $$$$. So unless that is not a problem.. Then the HK is not really a bad thing to have and appreciate..

[Bobby_Chia_199]

http://www.subaru.asia/sg/en/owners/aftersales/media/service_packages/preventive_service.pdf

 

http://www.subaru.asia/sg/en/owners/aftersales/media/service_packages/service_maintenance.pdf

Thanks bro!!

[Tohto]

Looking at the brightness intensity, i doubt any LED in the market has this kind of brightness. It should be HID. I can really see the shiny backside of those cars in front of me when stop at traffic lights. I can imagine how the drivers in front of me must have felt. Wa lao,... so bright, better siam..

 

I think you guys confused between HID & LED already.

LED are the more in technology for car head light. Pre-FL are still using the HID.

Normally the legally allow light colour for HID is 4300k, so it will still see slight yellowish. Any number higher than this are likely to be illegal. 

For LED, it is pure white. Recently release car are using LED. Eg. Vezel, higher end mazda 6, most premium conti model etc..

 

The top end of the headlight are the laser light used by BMW latest 7series.

[melvynlee]

Sorry if this was posted before, but do you guys have any good SE to recommend? Most important must be honest and patient enough to go through with you the questions you have and maybe recommend what options are good and not so good...

[BenTong]

I think you guys confused between HID & LED already.

LED are the more in technology for car head light. Pre-FL are still using the HID.

Normally the legally allow light colour for HID is 4300k, so it will still see slight yellowish. Any number higher than this are likely to be illegal. 

For LED, it is pure white. Recently release car are using LED. Eg. Vezel, higher end mazda 6, most premium conti model etc..

 

The top end of the headlight are the laser light used by BMW latest 7series.

Bro..   :a-good:  

 

but now you have poisoned ppl..forester owners going for  laser lights

[Shibadog]

Bro..totally Agree. I am just being naughty.. Are we buying a 240hp car are we buying a sound system?

 

Well if really not happy with sound system then can do the following:

 

(1) install sound insulation & "cancellation" then see whether sound is ok

(2) install a plug and play tuner but make sure you get a good an installer

(3) don't rely on installer to help you to tune.. Do it yourself.. Only you know what is right for you

(4) change the whole freaking system and face warranty issues with MI

(5) all the above will need some serious $$$$. So unless that is not a problem.. Then the HK is not really a bad thing to have and appreciate..

 

 

or easier

 

#6 buy a lexus

 

[WML888]

Change audio system with amp and woofer set is a big job. I saw my Friend's brand new 320 kenna rip apart and having all the door panels and etc parts all over the workshop floor. Very heart pain experience. Quite painful to watch. Lol. He did a customised sound setup with dunno wat German stuff and get pro to tune. In the end, I commented That his sound system sounded weird. All the vocals sounded ultra sharp and irritating to the ears and some sounds end up muffled. Really unbalanced and weird.

 

Not just the additional wiring alone but he amp and woofer also took up quite some space in the boot. His a pillars also need to drill holes. Very scary...

Me too,cannot bear the heart pain to see my new beauty being torn apart...

 

My personal preference is to enjoy (and learning) the stock manufacturing specifications until warranty expires, then mod to my liking. But, it needs a strong will to resist all kind of "poisons" everyday :)

Bro.. :a-good:

 

but now you have poisoned ppl..forester owners going for laser lights

Personally, I find the LED (low and high beams) gives one the $million feel on the road ...

[Rayoflight]

Even the Nissan X-Trail also using LED headlights.

 

For Vezel, Toyota Altis all these also using..