Problems with new condo unit

[ktnpl]

 

so is there a date in the contract stating the CSC date?

 

There is no deadline for obtaining CSC in the S&P for my condo. It just entitles the developer to collect 8% of the progress payment. However, most developers will often use CSC as a reason to initiate the completion of the S&P.

[ktnpl]

From now on will monitor the progress very closely. If K still doesn't start work, I'm going to hound his boss.

 

It is better to get all the wet works done first. You will need to check for hollowness on the entire wall and floor area using a tapping rod. The defects on solid surfacing top, cabinet, wardrobe, doors, windows and other fixtures can be done a later stage with relatively little inconvenience.

[Ben5266]

 

Good to know that you have a fruitful meeting with the team.

 

[Mazda2gal]

 

It is better to get all the wet works done first. You will need to check for hollowness on the entire wall and floor area using a tapping rod. The defects on solid surfacing top, cabinet, wardrobe, doors, windows and other fixtures can be done a later stage with relatively little inconvenience.

Hollowness in floor has been checked using a coin. 2 hollow points in kitchen found, anyway the kitchen flooring very uneven. K seems reluctant to rectify it though his boss told him to get it done. I'm not optimistic abt the kitchen flooring.

 

As for wall hollowness... didn't know have to check. Some parts of the wall are only partitions in the first place...

[Mazda2gal]

Good to know that you have a fruitful meeting with the team.

 

Hmmm well we behaved in a civilized manner (no flipping table yet) but I will only conclude that it's fruitful if defects are satisfactorily rectified by 25 May.

 

Anyway I emailed them with the list of discussion points today But I doubt they'll reply because nobody wants to commit to anything.

[Lotr]

Hmmm well we behaved in a civilized manner (no flipping table yet) but I will only conclude that it's fruitful if defects are satisfactorily rectified by 25 May.

 

Anyway I emailed them with the list of discussion points today But I doubt they'll reply because nobody wants to commit to anything.

 

Better check if there is any water seepage into your unit especially after heavy and long downpour. This one is a hidden flaw and water keeps seeping in, it will damage furniture and parquet flooring.

[ktnpl]

As for wall hollowness... didn't know have to check. Some parts of the wall are only partitions in the first place...

The bedroom partitions are usually dry walls which are two boards with rockwool in between and will sound hollow. This is not a defect. You only need to check for the party wall (between your unit and neighbouring unit), kitchen wall and toilet wall.

[Latio2005A]

It's my first time buying a property, encountered problems with the defects rectification process and the mgt. Appreciate advice from experienced property buyers.

 

Condo developer is a big established one, didn't expect the unit to be handed over in a bad and uncompleted condition. Moreover TOP of this condo has been delayed for 4 months.

 

Among many other defects, the kitchen cabinet has many misalignments, a drawer track wasn't installed and was lying in the drawer (see pics), discoloration of cabinet surfaces, deep scratches on solid table top and stainless steel backing. Skirting missing. Chips on bathroom basin top. Marble flooring in living room was not polished and looks used. Dents on doors.

 

After joint inspection with construction supervisor and developer Rep, I handed a key to them to do defects.

 

Few days later I checked, nth has been done as expected. But neighbour who already moved in alerted that the workers have been entering my unit at 9+pm, wearing t-shirts and shorts, since the day I handed a key to the construction supervisor.

 

I called defects team the next day and was advised to email my complaint. As expected, no reply nor response. Though they did a few minor defects. The big items like flooring etc all left undone. Only 2 weeks left before the one month defect rectification deadline is up, have a feeling they may tell me that those are not defects or not able to rectify. Or they may request more time though I already told them I need vacate my current residence by June.

 

Though I can rectify the defects on my own after the one month and claim from developer, I'm not sure what complications may arise. Like developer not honouring the claim?

 

I'm gg to meet a Rep from construction team regarding the defects. What stance should I take?

 

Anyone with experience to advise?

 

 

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. Just read your woes. Wish you all the best in getting them rectify the defects.

[Hamburger]

 

There is no deadline for obtaining CSC in the S&P for my condo. It just entitles the developer to collect 8% of the progress payment. However, most developers will often use CSC as a reason to initiate the completion of the S&P.

 

pardon my ignorance, does that mean buyers have no recourse for late delivery?

 

if say delayed for half a year, its quite a lot of opportunity cost that has gone wasted.

[WilliamY]

I read this thread twice and .

 

Firstly, there are standards that developers need to adhere as outline by our authorities. These standards suppose to get higher with passing of time. In addition, there are inspection of the development by authorities at various stages of the development.

 

Secondly, the number of defects are beyond believed. Shocking.

 

Hence, someone is sleeping on the job.

 

I am sure there are many more new first time owners. I wondered how many does not know how to seek redress and fork out their own money to make repairs.

 

The authorities really need to re-examine their process of inspection and safe guard consumers. Consumer council can take up the case as it must be a country wide problem.

 

 

[Sabian]

Re-examine?

 

Got money to earn or not? Can boost somebody's KPI or not? Will REDAS cry father cry mother or not if this is proposed?

[Mockngbrd]

From now on will monitor the progress very closely. If K still doesn't start work, I'm going to hound his boss.

 

All the best. Although i'm still not convinced by them. If after 1 month can throw lawya letter at them?

 

[Mazda2gal]

The bedroom partitions are usually dry walls which are two boards with rockwool in between and will sound hollow. This is not a defect. You only need to check for the party wall (between your unit and neighbouring unit), kitchen wall and toilet wall.

 

I see, thanks, will check them too.

 

Really appreciate everyone's advice and sharing of experience. (Unfortunately I can't praise everyone's posts) There are so many things to look out for in a new house, overwhelming for a first timer.

[nazerath]

The faults doesn't seem to justify the cost and inconvenience to hire a lawyer, remember, they probably got an in house one. Maybe try tell them if they don't fix, you fix and they will pay. Or you will go see mp. Election coming.

[Duckduck]

Only 2 weeks left before the one month defect rectification deadline is up,

 

its 1yr lah right? TOP then 1yr later CSC mah

 

how to fix whole building defects in 1 mth??

[Latio2005A]

 

I see, thanks, will check them too.

 

Really appreciate everyone's advice and sharing of experience. (Unfortunately I can't praise everyone's posts) There are so many things to look out for in a new house, overwhelming for a first timer.

With our 1st world status, we are already facing such shoddy workmanship for a million dollar purchase.

 

Can you imagine those who bought overseas properties? Good luck to them. (ok, i sidetrack)

 

 

Edited May 12, 2015 by Latio2005A

[Mazda2gal]

I read this thread twice and .

 

Firstly, there are standards that developers need to adhere as outline by our authorities. These standards suppose to get higher with passing of time. In addition, there are inspection of the development by authorities at various stages of the development.

 

Secondly, the number of defects are beyond believed. Shocking.

 

Hence, someone is sleeping on the job.

 

I am sure there are many more new first time owners. I wondered how many does not know how to seek redress and fork out their own money to make repairs.

 

The authorities really need to re-examine their process of inspection and safe guard consumers. Consumer council can take up the case as it must be a country wide problem.

 

 

 

Yes someone is sleeping on the job. That's why when I asked the duo from Developer why no QC, someone sleeping on the job? They just kept quiet.

 

They didn't complete the units properly, then hand over the units to us, start collecting maintenance fees (mine is almost $400 a month) upon handover, then make us wait long long while they sit on the defects without doing anything. Really not fair to us. We are the ones paying for their incompetence. And of course opportunity costs from the delay in TOP and moving in.

 

Managed to join a closed FB group for owners yesterday, many of them have similar (if not worse) defects and experiences. No defect rectification carried out after 2 weeks of joint inspection and patronising responses from construction team are very common. An owner even paid more than 1k for a professional to identify all the defects because the condition of the unit is really bad. Of course there are some lucky ones with relatively few and minor defects. Really a matter of heng suay.

A colleague suggested going to CASE but I doubt it'll help.

Hope this thread can also serve other home buyers well by providing info on defects to look out for, defects rectification process etc.

[Duckduck]

 

 

Yes someone is sleeping on the job. That's why when I asked the duo from Developer why no QC, someone sleeping on the job? They just kept quiet.

 

They didn't complete the units properly, then hand over the units to us, start collecting maintenance fees (mine is almost $400 a month) upon handover, then make us wait long long while they sit on the defects without doing anything. Really not fair to us. We are the ones paying for their incompetence. And of course opportunity costs from the delay in TOP and moving in.

 

Managed to join a closed FB group for owners yesterday, many of them have similar (if not worse) defects and experiences. No defect rectification carried out after 2 weeks of joint inspection and patronising responses from construction team are very common. An owner even paid more than 1k for a professional to identify all the defects because the condition of the unit is really bad. Of course there are some lucky ones with relatively few and minor defects. Really a matter of heng suay.

A colleague suggested going to CASE but I doubt it'll help.

Hope this thread can also serve other home buyers well by providing info on defects to look out for, defects rectification process etc.

 

 

who is the developer? no need to say condo name

 

maybe put like F** E*** or C*** etc etc