Hamburger Hypersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 May I know what's LD? TOP delayed 4 months, when I called last Dec because the TOP was supposed to be end Dec, they told me TOP in Jan, then became Feb, March and finally I only collected keys almost end of April. I didn't make noise all the while because I see no point in rushing them if they are going to do a sloppy job to TOP earlier. So when I collected the keys I EXPECTED minimal defects and problems, and got a shock of my life to see the horrendous condition of the unit. My neighbour who already moved in shared that she was the first batch to get the keys in March because she insisted on it. So now I know, they will entertain those who make noise. Btw she also shared her relative's unit in the same development has parquet flooring that is wet, I didn't ask abt the details. Liquidity Damage. If you are a contractor and you delayed the project, the developer will sue you for LD. what about resident? Any revenue for doing so?? Maybe can form a committee and seek legal advice. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icedbs Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 (edited) May I know what's LD? TOP delayed 4 months, when I called last Dec because the TOP was supposed to be end Dec, they told me TOP in Jan, then became Feb, March and finally I only collected keys almost end of April. I didn't make noise all the while because I see no point in rushing them if they are going to do a sloppy job to TOP earlier. So when I collected the keys I EXPECTED minimal defects and problems, and got a shock of my life to see the horrendous condition of the unit. My neighbour who already moved in shared that she was the first batch to get the keys in March because she insisted on it. So now I know, they will entertain those who make noise. Btw she also shared her relative's unit in the same development has parquet flooring that is wet, I didn't ask abt the details. I think first of all, don't get too frustrated or emotional about this first. Because if you do, I am sure the rep/supervisor will feel like you are bashing them. Like someone said, you got to handle this nicely with the rep/supervisor guy. Do a give and take. For some of the smaller defects, get your renovation contractor to correct it. In that sense, the rep also knows you have been trying to help them as well and being fair about it. The thing about construction guys is that if they know you have give way and help, they will return you the favour far more than you asked them too. Banging table and all that will only result in a lose lose for everyone. End of the day, it is you who has to stay inside the unit, so going that route will just prolong the issue. Edited May 10, 2015 by Icedbs 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yslim79 4th Gear May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 I doubt LD is possible, unless drafted in contract which developer will not include such unfavorable terms in their sales contract to consumer. You can engage lawyer but that would only be during extreme stage. So the only sensible thing to do is to go through the full list of defects and have the developer acknowledge in B&W with the defects clearance dateline agreed and stated. Normally when a project is delayed, it's not a good sign. Definitely the delay is not for them to improve the quality of the project; It's most likely because they need more time to either settle or cover up the problems. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabian Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Developer is big established one, I assume recently TOP......my guess would be sky habitat. Actually the question shd be who's the main con. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Read: http://www.ura.gov.sg/uol/guidelines/residential-property/Home-Buyers/Sections/Taking%20Possession%20and%20Moving%20In.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bismarck Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Actually the question shd be who's the main con. Yah. Aw it's not sky habitat and capitaland. I guess wrongly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camrysfa Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 If the developer do not agree on the 'defects' listed by the owner - then may have to engage an assessor, They will visit the property and submit a report of their observations. Forgotten what is the the name of such a professional. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky2007 Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 What a lousy project.. unacceptable in my opinion. TS should just list out which developer that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 developer still hold the main contractor the last 10% of the project contract fee. The main contractor will need to address the defects made possible by the sub contractor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda2gal 5th Gear May 10, 2015 Author Share May 10, 2015 Thanks all, Yes I agree that getting emotional won't help but it's a challenge. Just went to the unit and found the MBR wardrobe door has new defect appearing. Corner of sliding door seems to be filed away, revealing the raw wood beneath. It was originally in good condition. Will meet the Rep tmr and hear his explanation. I also bought drinks and biscuits to put in the unit for the workers, though my friends and family members disapprove saying this is not the proper way. I just want the defects to be rectified. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 your king gesture will not go unnoticed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noalcohol 1st Gear May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Nowadays contractors suka suka build one 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 May I know what's LD? TOP delayed 4 months, when I called last Dec because the TOP was supposed to be end Dec, they told me TOP in Jan, then became Feb, March and finally I only collected keys almost end of April. I didn't make noise all the while because I see no point in rushing them if they are going to do a sloppy job to TOP earlier. So when I collected the keys I EXPECTED minimal defects and problems, and got a shock of my life to see the horrendous condition of the unit. My neighbour who already moved in shared that she was the first batch to get the keys in March because she insisted on it. So now I know, they will entertain those who make noise. Btw she also shared her relative's unit in the same development has parquet flooring that is wet, I didn't ask abt the details. Bear in mind that TOP date is non contractual. There is a systematic way of taking over and closing of defects. I presume developer has passed you an official list to fill in the defects and you have physically marked out what these defects are and hold a joint inspection with the developer's rep and signed off. (with you holding a copy) The period to close the defects is mandated by law and if these are not done satisfactorily, you have recourse. Do not do any own repair or reno before this is closed. A good developer would not ruin his own reputation by ignoring the dateline as it's really the responsibility of the contractor to attend and rectify these defects. Btw, you still haven't mention who is the developer. Why the big secret if you think they did a shoddy job? It's a matter of fact, not speculation what. Unless the developer is also the contractor. That one could be different story........ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Unless the developer is also the contractor. That one could be different story........ This would be chinese company built condos? Qingjian? CNOC? Or one or two of the local companies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercs Hypersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Defect inspection in new developments- http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/blog/tag/defect-inspection-in-new-developments 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 Liquidity Damage. If you are a contractor and you delayed the project, the developer will sue you for LD. what about resident? Any revenue for doing so?? Maybe can form a committee and seek legal advice. It is liquidated damages deh 😂 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktnpl 3rd Gear May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 (edited) Liquidated damages are collected by developer and is not applicable to the purchasers. Purchasers can only claim from the builder under tort as a last resort. Before taking such an extreme and costly measure, there are several avenues a purchaser can take, for example, writing to the developer if the defects rectification is not done satisfactorily. Meanwhile, stay cool like the rest say as there are laws to protect the purchaser. The developer's responsibility does not end after the 1-year defects liability period. There is another six years liability for latent defects that did not surface in the first year as well as those defects highlighted that they fail to rectify. Next is to rally your neighbours (minimum 10%) to write to developer to call the 1st AGM to run the Management Corporation (MCST) and appoint your choice of Managing Agent (MA). Otherwise the developer may delay the process as long as possible since the MA who is appointed by them is unlikely to hound their paymaster for rectification of defects at common areas. Edited May 10, 2015 by ktnpl 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic May 10, 2015 Share May 10, 2015 If it is so bad, maybe you should engage a defect inspection firm? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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